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Started by Galilee , Mar 24 2009 08:42 pm

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#41 Galilee

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Posted 03 July 2009 - 09:30 am

QUOTE(gilbert @ Fri 3rd Jul 2009, 08:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
care to share what kind of paint are you using?


Can't remember the brand or type. The Base coat has some fairly strong acid in it and the clearcoat has cyanide in it, so coal-filter mask is essential when painting.

The colours are base white and black with no additional colour, and the yellow pearl is same as used on new Nissans.
The clearcoat is 'extra heavy', meaning it contains a lot of solids and can be applied quite thick without running. I only needed 3 coats before first sanding.

I'll see if i can find info on brand and type of paint.
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Posted 03 July 2009 - 11:06 am

Like everyone else, I think it looks fantastic and look forward to seeing the completed bike.

Does the paint need to be applied at a specific temperature or baked after application?
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Posted 03 July 2009 - 09:53 pm

More paint info:

All the paint products are from PPG, they are all using the same solvent and made so that you don't need to wait for complete hardening before applying the next product. All products are Acrylic except the clearcoat wich is 'polyurethane compound'...but still called 'acrylic'.

I found a professional airgun system and these paints MUCH easier to work with than aerosol cans. Easier to get even layers without the paint running.

This type of paint doesn't require any special treatment for hardening, but the acrylic colour paint requires a clearcoat with added hardener. The paint with colour pigments doesn't harden by itself. Ideal (but not required) painting temperature is 20 deg C.


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Posted 04 July 2009 - 07:40 am

QUOTE(Galilee @ Fri 3rd Jul 2009, 10:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
More paint info:

All the paint products are from PPG, they are all using the same solvent and made so that you don't need to wait for complete hardening before applying the next product. All products are Acrylic except the clearcoat wich is 'polyurethane compound'...but still called 'acrylic'.

I found a professional airgun system and these paints MUCH easier to work with than aerosol cans. Easier to get even layers without the paint running.

This type of paint doesn't require any special treatment for hardening, but the acrylic colour paint requires a clearcoat with added hardener. The paint with colour pigments doesn't harden by itself. Ideal (but not required) painting temperature is 20 deg C.

Many thanks Gaililee, look forward to seeing finished bike good.gif
Now on 9er number 2 .....

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Posted 06 July 2009 - 12:59 am

Gorgeous... I can't believe nobody has said:

"Take some really good pictures of the finished bike"... there will be a 'new year' starting before you know it.




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Posted 06 July 2009 - 06:37 am

AAAAARRRRRGGHHH!

on the FINAL layer of clearcoat I managed to get runs in the paint.

Oh, well, buddy with the paintshop will show me how to fix it.

I also tried a side panel on, just to see:



Colour looks MUCH better in sunlight.
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Posted 06 July 2009 - 12:28 pm

Plenty of cake application to said buddy ! Hope all goes well !

I think you've got the size aspect spot on there ! Not too fick n not too fin ! Jobs a gudgeon.

Just noticed, erm..... have you got to paint up some black n white fairing bolts ?

Edited by Studley Ramrod, 06 July 2009 - 12:31 pm.

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#48 Galilee

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Posted 06 July 2009 - 09:58 pm

QUOTE(Studley Ramrod @ Mon 6th Jul 2009, 02:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Plenty of cake application to said buddy ! Hope all goes well !

I think you've got the size aspect spot on there ! Not too fick n not too fin ! Jobs a gudgeon.

Just noticed, erm..... have you got to paint up some black n white fairing bolts ?


Yea, for my buddy it will be cake, a case of beer and a bottle of bubblies.

I didn't wan't to let the bolts decide where to go with the pattern, and the holes are impossible to mask, so i ended up painting that part yellow.

The running was worse than i thought, apparently paint has an 'avalanche' effect, so if it first starts, you get quite a lot. I have to let the clearcoat harden for a day or two more.

In the meantime here is a pic, of the whole side pattern.


Edited by Galilee, 06 July 2009 - 09:59 pm.

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Posted 06 July 2009 - 10:14 pm

QUOTE(Galilee @ Mon 6th Jul 2009, 05:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I didn't wan't to let the bolts decide where to go with the pattern, and the holes are impossible to mask,


Once you put the bolts in it will look fine... drinks.gif
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Posted 08 July 2009 - 09:30 pm

Paint result:



Result fixed:


Further down:


...and after more sanding and polishing:



The running clearcoat was fixed by first scraping off most of the drops with a sharp knife, then wet-sanded with 2000grit paper, then coarse polished and fine polished. Both the scraping and the sanding has to be done VERY carefully because when sanding over a rised area there is a high risk of sanding off too much AROUND the area you want to remove.

End result was perfect. MUCH shinier than after just the paint. The clearcoat was like glass and the patterns got a 3-d effect.
It looked so good i decided to give all the other parts the same treatment with sanding and 2-stage polishing.
....as if i hadn't enough work dry.gif

Now EVERYTHING is wet sanded, and I'm spening the evenings polishing parts. Boring work, but i hope it's worth it.


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Posted 09 July 2009 - 07:09 am

im so jealous of ur pretty paint job... wish i could do mine... smile.gif

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Posted 09 July 2009 - 08:19 am

After all this work, which looks great I might add, you're going to cry like a demented hobbit the first day it rains. jester2.gif

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Posted 09 July 2009 - 08:29 am

this is gonna look great


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Posted 09 July 2009 - 09:08 am

I was soooo relieved my buddy managed to fix the runs in the paint. I'm overjoyed. I'm gonna make him a cake like suggested further up here.

And the bike is mean to be USED. A little rain won't stop me.

If i kept the bike inside at first sign of a cloud, I wouldn't be able to ride it at all.
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Posted 09 July 2009 - 11:56 am

Don't let the icing on the (buddy) cake run, you'll never hear the end of it laugh.gif

Your doin' a great job in getting us all very jealous tongue.gif Keep up the excellent work !

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Posted 10 July 2009 - 03:40 am

Hahaha I was about to come on here and slag you off for painting a Yamaha in any colour other than Kenny Roberts colours but no need!, Looks great mate. I'm definately going to own a kenny roberts coloured bike one day!

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Posted 11 July 2009 - 12:09 pm

Well done with sorting the paint runs. It never ceases to amaze me how talented some people are.

Great work again, checking back daily to see the finished bike wink.gif
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Posted 11 July 2009 - 12:19 pm

Vereeeeeeeee nice job Galilee ............
You'de best get a move on though ........another 3 months & it'll too cold/dark to ride the fecker up your way, won't it ?? dry.gif

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Posted 11 July 2009 - 12:58 pm

OMG!
Thats gonna look stunning.
You're gonna spend more time just looking at it than riding it rotflmmfao.gif rotflmmfao.gif

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Posted 11 July 2009 - 01:07 pm

Thanks for the encouragement everyone. It's definately more fun doing this kind of thing when you get a bit of feedback. Especially when it's about 10x more work than calculated.

Finished polishing and brought the parts home today.

My brother is vistiting from across the country, so It's a bit a-social to sit in the garage now.

Pics to come shortly.

Edited by Galilee, 11 July 2009 - 01:08 pm.

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