My 1996 mk2 has drunk over 1l of oil in 3500 miles. Does this seem excessive?
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Oil Consumption
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Posted 14 March 2010 - 04:30 pm
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Posted 14 March 2010 - 04:31 pm
QUOTE(Finch @ Sun 14th Mar 2010, 04:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My 1996 mk2 has drunk over 1l of oil in 3500 miles. Does this seem excessive?
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Not at all, many say 1/2 ltr every 1000 miles so ya doing ok fella
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Posted 14 March 2010 - 04:48 pm
It's "normal" for 850 TDMs, it doesn't seem to indicate excesice wear. Mine uses around a litre per 3,000 miles, just as it did 40k ago when I bought my 02 reg Mk2 (just over 60k now).
It wouldn't be too much of a worry if the difference between the min- and max level wasn't around a measily 400 ml (my own estimate with topping up while looking at the watch glass), which isn't much for a dry sump-setup with a nearly 4 litre capacity oil-tank.
It wouldn't be too much of a worry if the difference between the min- and max level wasn't around a measily 400 ml (my own estimate with topping up while looking at the watch glass), which isn't much for a dry sump-setup with a nearly 4 litre capacity oil-tank.
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Posted 15 March 2010 - 08:49 pm
QUOTE(Finch @ Sun 14th Mar 2010, 04:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My 1996 mk2 has drunk over 1l of oil in 3500 miles. Does this seem excessive?
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thats excellent as i had a tdm that used 1ltr every 1000 miles and Mrs. Yamaha say thats perfickly normal.
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Posted 15 March 2010 - 08:54 pm
Was concerned as the bike sometimes seems a bit reeky when revved hard. Perhaps its just soot build up in the exhaust due to not being able to open it up to much over the winter?
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Posted 15 March 2010 - 09:00 pm
QUOTE(Finch @ Mon 15th Mar 2010, 08:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Was concerned as the bike sometimes seems a bit reeky when revved hard. Perhaps its just soot build up in the exhaust due to not being able to open it up to much over the winter?
change yer undercrackers
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engine changed july 2007 on a dyno run it made 79.1BHP / Torque 59.9Had a brief flirtation with a 1999 MKIIa but it blew an exaust valve on the M5 so was sold on to be repaired.
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Posted 15 March 2010 - 10:55 pm
this has all been done before, but anyway....
anything between 1litre per 1000-4000miles is normal
it seems to be worse if you cruise at motorway speeds more often
difference between bottom and top of markers is 300-400ml on XTZs, all TDM850s and TRXs
anything between 1litre per 1000-4000miles is normal
it seems to be worse if you cruise at motorway speeds more often
difference between bottom and top of markers is 300-400ml on XTZs, all TDM850s and TRXs
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Black 1991 850 MK1, 160k+ miles(ish, best guess really, gave up trying to keep count after 3rd set of clocks and 3rd engine), PilotRoad2 tyres, custom stubby exhaust system, bluespot calipers & goodridge braided hoses with dunlopads, maxton forks, Ohlins shock, kedo handguards, stainless TDM grill, Scottoiler with lubetube & dual nozzle thingy, Givi Wingrack2 with E45 & 2xE36s, renntec crash bars, Autocom with blueteeth & PMR radio, TomTom Rider2, Optimate IIIsp, Bagster tank cover, anti-dazzle coating
to fit : led spotlights, heated grips, new braided lines and rear caliper that actually has bleed nipples
Silver-ish 2003 900, 70k miles, PilotRoad3 front tyre (new@65k) & PR2 rear(new at 69k), Renthal 755 bars with KTM handguards, oxford unheated grips, power commander 3usb, scorpion titanium exhausts, standard screen with vario winglet thingy, stainless grill, oem centre stand, bagster tank cover, givi monokey topplate mounted on grabrail with V46 topbox, Givi PL pannier rails with E21s, crash bungs, mirror extender thingys, Halfords Advanced Laser Blue brillance bulbs, 21w led spotlights, touring scottoiler with leehenty dual nozzle, Autocom with blueteeth & PMR radio, TomTom Rider3 Urban, winter style anti-dazzle coating
to fit : led brake light strip, replacement heated grips
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Posted 16 March 2010 - 10:02 am
QUOTE(TonyDevil @ Mon 15th Mar 2010, 10:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
this has all been done before, but anyway....
anything between 1litre per 1000-4000miles is normal
it seems to be worse if you cruise at motorway speeds more often
difference between bottom and top of markers is 300-400ml on XTZs, all TDM850s and TRXs
anything between 1litre per 1000-4000miles is normal
it seems to be worse if you cruise at motorway speeds more often
difference between bottom and top of markers is 300-400ml on XTZs, all TDM850s and TRXs
Which leads me to ask then Tony, how often (miles) should i be checking Bigred on my upcoming adventure, motorway all the way to Luxembourg.
This is for a MK1 not a MK2 as per the post for those that dont know.
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Posted 16 March 2010 - 11:48 am
QUOTE(dablik @ Tue 16th Mar 2010, 10:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Which leads me to ask then Tony, how often (miles) should i be checking Bigred on my upcoming adventure, motorway all the way to Luxembourg.
This is for a MK1 not a MK2 as per the post for those that dont know.
Cheers
Cliff
This is for a MK1 not a MK2 as per the post for those that dont know.
Cheers
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if you are doing a few hundred miles a day i'd check it each evening when you stop
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Black 1991 850 MK1, 160k+ miles(ish, best guess really, gave up trying to keep count after 3rd set of clocks and 3rd engine), PilotRoad2 tyres, custom stubby exhaust system, bluespot calipers & goodridge braided hoses with dunlopads, maxton forks, Ohlins shock, kedo handguards, stainless TDM grill, Scottoiler with lubetube & dual nozzle thingy, Givi Wingrack2 with E45 & 2xE36s, renntec crash bars, Autocom with blueteeth & PMR radio, TomTom Rider2, Optimate IIIsp, Bagster tank cover, anti-dazzle coating
to fit : led spotlights, heated grips, new braided lines and rear caliper that actually has bleed nipples
Silver-ish 2003 900, 70k miles, PilotRoad3 front tyre (new@65k) & PR2 rear(new at 69k), Renthal 755 bars with KTM handguards, oxford unheated grips, power commander 3usb, scorpion titanium exhausts, standard screen with vario winglet thingy, stainless grill, oem centre stand, bagster tank cover, givi monokey topplate mounted on grabrail with V46 topbox, Givi PL pannier rails with E21s, crash bungs, mirror extender thingys, Halfords Advanced Laser Blue brillance bulbs, 21w led spotlights, touring scottoiler with leehenty dual nozzle, Autocom with blueteeth & PMR radio, TomTom Rider3 Urban, winter style anti-dazzle coating
to fit : led brake light strip, replacement heated grips
current rides : TDM850 3vd/mk1=tourer&scratcher, TRX850=weekend twisty toy, 2003 TDM900=commuter, 2005 TDM900=unmolested. Gone but not forgotton : XTZ750=overland touring toy, GS500e, GS125
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Posted 16 March 2010 - 11:56 am
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Posted 16 March 2010 - 01:40 pm
QUOTE(TonyDevil @ Tue 16th Mar 2010, 10:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
if you are doing a few hundred miles a day i'd check it each evening when you stop
keep an eye on it, it'll sneak up on you and chew off your conrod bearings.(see my sig.)
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Posted 16 March 2010 - 02:18 pm
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I aggrozzle make it a part of yer daily routine, once you get in the habit it becomes second nature.
I just bought a TDM. What is the easiest way to check the oil level without a main stand?
Can i use a rear paddock stand, or does it lift the back too much?
Is it really important that the motor is at running temperature ?
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Posted 16 March 2010 - 02:33 pm
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I just bought a TDM. What is the easiest way to check the oil level without a main stand?
Can i use a rear paddock stand, or does it lift the back too much?
Is it really important that the motor is at running temperature ?
Can i use a rear paddock stand, or does it lift the back too much?
Is it really important that the motor is at running temperature ?
That would probably depend on if it's a Mk1, Mk2/2a, or 9er.
On a Mk1 (3VD), just straddle it to hold it upright and check the dipstick.
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Posted 16 March 2010 - 02:39 pm
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That would probably depend on if it's a Mk1, Mk2/2a, or 9er.
On a Mk1 (3VD), just straddle it to hold it upright and check the dipstick.
On a Mk1 (3VD), just straddle it to hold it upright and check the dipstick.
MK2, so no dipstick?
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Posted 16 March 2010 - 03:06 pm
QUOTE(Jana @ Tue 16th Mar 2010, 02:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
MK2, so no dipstick?
nope, sight glass thats hard to see
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My TDM :
Black 1991 850 MK1, 160k+ miles(ish, best guess really, gave up trying to keep count after 3rd set of clocks and 3rd engine), PilotRoad2 tyres, custom stubby exhaust system, bluespot calipers & goodridge braided hoses with dunlopads, maxton forks, Ohlins shock, kedo handguards, stainless TDM grill, Scottoiler with lubetube & dual nozzle thingy, Givi Wingrack2 with E45 & 2xE36s, renntec crash bars, Autocom with blueteeth & PMR radio, TomTom Rider2, Optimate IIIsp, Bagster tank cover, anti-dazzle coating
to fit : led spotlights, heated grips, new braided lines and rear caliper that actually has bleed nipples
Silver-ish 2003 900, 70k miles, PilotRoad3 front tyre (new@65k) & PR2 rear(new at 69k), Renthal 755 bars with KTM handguards, oxford unheated grips, power commander 3usb, scorpion titanium exhausts, standard screen with vario winglet thingy, stainless grill, oem centre stand, bagster tank cover, givi monokey topplate mounted on grabrail with V46 topbox, Givi PL pannier rails with E21s, crash bungs, mirror extender thingys, Halfords Advanced Laser Blue brillance bulbs, 21w led spotlights, touring scottoiler with leehenty dual nozzle, Autocom with blueteeth & PMR radio, TomTom Rider3 Urban, winter style anti-dazzle coating
to fit : led brake light strip, replacement heated grips
current rides : TDM850 3vd/mk1=tourer&scratcher, TRX850=weekend twisty toy, 2003 TDM900=commuter, 2005 TDM900=unmolested. Gone but not forgotton : XTZ750=overland touring toy, GS500e, GS125
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Posted 16 March 2010 - 03:29 pm
QUOTE(Jana @ Tue 16th Mar 2010, 10:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
MK2, so no dipstick?
You could prop the side-stand with a bit of wood so your Mk2 is 'almost' upright. but I would try this:
Get a bud to hold the bike up straight, see where the oil falls in the sight-glass, then try the paddock stand and see if it falls in the same place (may be angled a bit). If they are very close then you can just use the paddock stand by yourself.
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Posted 16 March 2010 - 04:21 pm
QUOTE(Jana @ Tue 16th Mar 2010, 02:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Is it really important that the motor is at running temperature ?
Yes, really important.
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If you want to mark your location on the Carpe map: http://www.carpe-tdm...opic.php?t=5117
Doin valve clearances? Use dappers valve shim exchange program and the job will be carroty - Free (other than you postin me yer shims) for sporting members.
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If you want to mark your location on the Carpe map: http://www.carpe-tdm...opic.php?t=5117
Doin valve clearances? Use dappers valve shim exchange program and the job will be carroty - Free (other than you postin me yer shims) for sporting members.
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Posted 16 March 2010 - 08:11 pm
QUOTE(dablik @ Tue 16th Mar 2010, 11:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Which leads me to ask then Tony, how often (miles) should i be checking Bigred on my upcoming adventure, motorway all the way to Luxembourg.
This is for a MK1 not a MK2 as per the post for those that dont know.
Cheers
Cliff
This is for a MK1 not a MK2 as per the post for those that dont know.
Cheers
Cliff
Touring Europe a couple of years ago with big motorway miles I was topping up every morning when I put petrol in, getting close to a litre a day. Take a bottle or something with a long nozzle to make topping up easy, I dribbled a lot of oil on forecourts until I found a flexi funnel at the Supermarche.
Assuming the oil goe's in the same place on a MK1...
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Posted 16 March 2010 - 10:15 pm
i use castrol 4t GPS 10w40 and the 1ltr bottle has a helpful bendy nozzle that is perfect for topping up mk1&mk2 TDMs =)
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Black 1991 850 MK1, 160k+ miles(ish, best guess really, gave up trying to keep count after 3rd set of clocks and 3rd engine), PilotRoad2 tyres, custom stubby exhaust system, bluespot calipers & goodridge braided hoses with dunlopads, maxton forks, Ohlins shock, kedo handguards, stainless TDM grill, Scottoiler with lubetube & dual nozzle thingy, Givi Wingrack2 with E45 & 2xE36s, renntec crash bars, Autocom with blueteeth & PMR radio, TomTom Rider2, Optimate IIIsp, Bagster tank cover, anti-dazzle coating
to fit : led spotlights, heated grips, new braided lines and rear caliper that actually has bleed nipples
Silver-ish 2003 900, 70k miles, PilotRoad3 front tyre (new@65k) & PR2 rear(new at 69k), Renthal 755 bars with KTM handguards, oxford unheated grips, power commander 3usb, scorpion titanium exhausts, standard screen with vario winglet thingy, stainless grill, oem centre stand, bagster tank cover, givi monokey topplate mounted on grabrail with V46 topbox, Givi PL pannier rails with E21s, crash bungs, mirror extender thingys, Halfords Advanced Laser Blue brillance bulbs, 21w led spotlights, touring scottoiler with leehenty dual nozzle, Autocom with blueteeth & PMR radio, TomTom Rider3 Urban, winter style anti-dazzle coating
to fit : led brake light strip, replacement heated grips
current rides : TDM850 3vd/mk1=tourer&scratcher, TRX850=weekend twisty toy, 2003 TDM900=commuter, 2005 TDM900=unmolested. Gone but not forgotton : XTZ750=overland touring toy, GS500e, GS125
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Posted 16 March 2010 - 10:18 pm
So in answer to my question o highjackers of thread, no then 
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