Yamaha Xt1200z Super Ténéré
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Posted 17 March 2010 - 09:10 pm
You are about the only one Baron.....all t'other oohhing and ahhhing seem to have gone quiet.
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Posted 17 March 2010 - 09:12 pm
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Sorry for the latest reply fellas. Here are the rest of the pics from the Motoplus TENERE 1200 show off. Donno about the ideas of the journalists but, after the positive first impression I have looked into deatils and realized the bike would not deserve the cost.
The finishes seem like careless Chinese replikas and the bike itself does not feel completed. However, every control and the body position looks to be just inplace when you sit on it. Apart from the price, TENERE is a bike to be tried to me.
You better decide yourself:
The finishes seem like careless Chinese replikas and the bike itself does not feel completed. However, every control and the body position looks to be just inplace when you sit on it. Apart from the price, TENERE is a bike to be tried to me.
You better decide yourself:
That's blown it then, never get a TDM with a battery that accessible
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Posted 17 March 2010 - 11:16 pm
13500k and looks like old blue spots painted gold on the front
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Posted 18 March 2010 - 12:31 am
Got a call from a Yamaha dealer in town here asking if I wanted to buy (for a discounted price, sir!) the demonstrator XTZ660 Tenere I had test ridden late last year. Nope, but what about them Super Tenere's I have heard about, I ask.
The dealer has ordered two for Christchurch, expected in June, and which will apparently be equipped with extras to compete with GS's, etc, etc. (We're very excited about them, sir!). I wasn't able to screw a definitive price out of them (not that I tried real hard).
Not that I didn't like the XTZ660 Tenere, but it wouldn't have filled the niche that my MKII does (e.g. I wouldn't have wanted to participate in last weekends TT2000 last weekend on the 660. Piece of cake on the MKII. Ooohhh, where's the cake...).
I can see myself organising a test ride.
The dealer has ordered two for Christchurch, expected in June, and which will apparently be equipped with extras to compete with GS's, etc, etc. (We're very excited about them, sir!). I wasn't able to screw a definitive price out of them (not that I tried real hard).
Not that I didn't like the XTZ660 Tenere, but it wouldn't have filled the niche that my MKII does (e.g. I wouldn't have wanted to participate in last weekends TT2000 last weekend on the 660. Piece of cake on the MKII. Ooohhh, where's the cake...).
I can see myself organising a test ride.
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Posted 18 March 2010 - 09:54 am
QUOTE(dapleb @ Wed 17th Mar 2010, 09:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You are about the only one Baron.....all t'other oohhing and ahhhing seem to have gone quiet.
No, I'm still oohhing and ahhhing and trying to work out where to lay my hands on Ł13k. And working out how to get it without SWMBO noticing. If only they did it in yellow, she'd probably never notice......
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Posted 18 March 2010 - 10:38 am
QUOTE(Finch @ Wed 17th Mar 2010, 11:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
13500k and looks like old blue spots painted gold on the front
they've done gold spots almost aslong as blue spots
i believe the only difference is the pistons, on bluespots they are stainless steel, on gold they are ....erm something else? alloy/alu ?
dunno what silver spots are tho
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Posted 18 March 2010 - 04:00 pm
QUOTE(dapleb @ Wed 17th Mar 2010, 09:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You are about the only one Baron.....all t'other oohhing and ahhhing seem to have gone quiet.
Voices, the voices I keep hearing them in my head, they keep telling me "don't do it......Ł13,500......over hyped".............but............I'm struggling.....I just think it's so lovely in blue.................
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Posted 10 April 2010 - 10:41 pm
QUOTE(Baron @ Thu 18th Mar 2010, 05:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Voices, the voices I keep hearing them in my head, they keep telling me "don't do it......Ł13,500......over hyped".............but............I'm struggling.....I just think it's so lovely in blue.................
There's been a mention of this before, but I see that Yamaha now ask your opinion of the Super Tenere (I don't think that was there when I last looked).
It is here: http://www.yamaha-mo...amp;i.user2=ENG
It also gives you the opportunity to make your case along the way for a new TDM (if you wish).
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Posted 11 April 2010 - 07:43 am
Good find Robo. 
Terrible survey (as most are) but filled in anyway with the word TDM and NO GIZMOS alot.
I am hoping if I fill it in enough times a week that they will build me a new mkI, without a ridiculously big enjun, with a chain and sprockets and no electrickery gizmos.
Of course by the time they have interpretted it I will have asked for a Tenere with all the bells and whistles, shaft drive and weighing the same as a bus.
No one here has put their name down for the new Tenere yet then??
Terrible survey (as most are) but filled in anyway with the word TDM and NO GIZMOS alot. I am hoping if I fill it in enough times a week that they will build me a new mkI, without a ridiculously big enjun, with a chain and sprockets and no electrickery gizmos.
Of course by the time they have interpretted it I will have asked for a Tenere with all the bells and whistles, shaft drive and weighing the same as a bus.
No one here has put their name down for the new Tenere yet then??
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Posted 11 April 2010 - 10:13 am
QUOTE(dapleb @ Sun 11th Apr 2010, 08:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Good find Robo. Terrible survey (as most are) but filled in anyway with the word TDM and NO GIZMOS alot.
I am hoping if I fill it in enough times a week that they will build me a new mkI, without a ridiculously big enjun, with a chain and sprockets and no electrickery gizmos.
Of course by the time they have interpretted it I will have asked for a Tenere with all the bells and whistles, shaft drive and weighing the same as a bus.
No one here has put their name down for the new Tenere yet then??
Terrible survey (as most are) but filled in anyway with the word TDM and NO GIZMOS alot. I am hoping if I fill it in enough times a week that they will build me a new mkI, without a ridiculously big enjun, with a chain and sprockets and no electrickery gizmos.
Of course by the time they have interpretted it I will have asked for a Tenere with all the bells and whistles, shaft drive and weighing the same as a bus.
No one here has put their name down for the new Tenere yet then??
I suppose a TDM with the new Tenere's seat, tank and fairing would just about do it (it would for me). And no harm in gizmos being on the options list.
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Posted 11 April 2010 - 11:58 am
I filled in that I'd like a simplified, lighter and cheaper version, so lose some of that new technology.
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Posted 11 April 2010 - 01:17 pm
QUOTE(Nick Apostolakis @ Sat 13th Mar 2010, 03:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think that some of these were said for the 660 tenere too, but now it is considered as an ok bike, reliable etc etc.
Wait to see the super tenere on the roads and then we will decide if it is worth it.
Of course mommy Yamaha says that the first edition will be special and after that the cost will drop.
I will just wait and see. (Although I do not intend to change my bike)
Wait to see the super tenere on the roads and then we will decide if it is worth it.
Of course mommy Yamaha says that the first edition will be special and after that the cost will drop.
I will just wait and see. (Although I do not intend to change my bike)
I'm afraid not. Built in Italy. Mines now had to be picked up from the road side twice in a month. It's a beautiful day outside - the best day of the year so far, and I'm bikeless AGAIN!!!
Fantastic fun to ride, great for back roads (not much fun up and down the A12 for 110mile commute per day) TDM is far far better... Though the XT660Z is a more rugged looking bike- aesthetically better I think, and the 21" wheel and long travel means all the crappy pot holes this year just don't exist.
Super Ten is tempting, but Ł13500K when a GS
is far less...wassat about then?I have been given first refusal at my local Yam dealer, they have got one coming for the showroom (yes. really. Yam have relented and they are letting dealers have them). But its a lot of wonga, but I'm fed up with the 660 keep breaking down (electrics rectifier again).
Mind you the TDM died too and I had to have the RAC out...maybe I should look at a different brand all together....
Edited by E.T., 11 April 2010 - 01:17 pm.
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Posted 11 April 2010 - 01:46 pm
QUOTE(E.T. @ Sun 11th Apr 2010, 02:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm afraid not. Built in Italy. Mines now had to be picked up from the road side twice in a month. It's a beautiful day outside - the best day of the year so far, and I'm bikeless AGAIN!!!
Mine has been absolutely reliable so far. Never missed a beat, even through so serious off-road abuse...
But you're right that the TDM is a lot more comfortable for long stretches of highway. But still I found the Ten more than acceptable on my trip to Normandy last year which was about 550km, 200 of which were highway.
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Posted 11 April 2010 - 04:20 pm
QUOTE(E.T. @ Sun 11th Apr 2010, 04:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm afraid not. Built in Italy. Mines now had to be picked up from the road side twice in a month. It's a beautiful day outside - the best day of the year so far, and I'm bikeless AGAIN!!!
Super Ten is tempting, but Ł13500K when a GS is far less...wassat about then?
I have been given first refusal at my local Yam dealer, they have got one coming for the showroom (yes. really. Yam have relented and they are letting dealers have them). But its a lot of wonga, but I'm fed up with the 660 keep breaking down (electrics rectifier again).
Mind you the TDM died too and I had to have the RAC out...maybe I should look at a different brand all together....
Super Ten is tempting, but Ł13500K when a GS
is far less...wassat about then?I have been given first refusal at my local Yam dealer, they have got one coming for the showroom (yes. really. Yam have relented and they are letting dealers have them). But its a lot of wonga, but I'm fed up with the 660 keep breaking down (electrics rectifier again).
Mind you the TDM died too and I had to have the RAC out...maybe I should look at a different brand all together....
Couldn't you try a xt 660 rectifier to see if it fits?
I do not know if rectifiers are a general problem for tenere's but here in Greece at least it is considered a reliable bike...
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Posted 11 April 2010 - 05:12 pm
QUOTE(Nick Apostolakis @ Sun 11th Apr 2010, 04:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Couldn't you try a xt 660 rectifier to see if it fits?
I do not know if rectifiers are a general problem for tenere's but here in Greece at least it is considered a reliable bike...
I do not know if rectifiers are a general problem for tenere's but here in Greece at least it is considered a reliable bike...
it is the same engine and rectifier... there is a saying in England "third time lucky"...I'm hoping this is true!
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Posted 11 April 2010 - 06:06 pm
QUOTE(Nick Apostolakis @ Sun 11th Apr 2010, 05:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I do not know if rectifiers are a general problem for tenere's
they are
mostly for 2 reasons: turns out a lot of them are not properly plugged in from factory
and the plug location is pretty exposed to the elements. some grease and tape can help with that...
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QUOTE(duibhce Kaelann @ Sun 11th Apr 2010, 06:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
they are
mostly for 2 reasons: turns out a lot of them are not properly plugged in from factory and the plug location is pretty exposed to the elements. some grease and tape can help with that...
mostly for 2 reasons: turns out a lot of them are not properly plugged in from factory
and the plug location is pretty exposed to the elements. some grease and tape can help with that...Well it was replaced last month, and when I got the bike back I firstly checked it was plugged in properly (it was) and then I innertuberised it and packed it full of rubber friendly grease. One month later....
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Posted 12 April 2010 - 12:04 pm
QUOTE(E.T. @ Mon 12th Apr 2010, 12:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well it was replaced last month, and when I got the bike back I firstly checked it was plugged in properly (it was) and then I innertuberised it and packed it full of rubber friendly grease. One month later....
That's really
any corrosion on the rec's contacts? Or is it really an internal failure?
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I don't know yet. I've left it with the dealer to sort out...my friend tells me its something to do with the magic smoke escaping...
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Posted 12 April 2010 - 08:31 pm
QUOTE(E.T. @ Sun 11th Apr 2010, 08:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
it is the same engine and rectifier... there is a saying in England "third time lucky"...I'm hoping this is true!
Well I hope you get lucky at last.
I didn't know about the rectifier problems of the tenere though...
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