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Started by longdog , Feb 24 2010 07:41 pm

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#181 TDMTAM

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Posted 06 August 2010 - 07:31 pm

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Yamaha have been sending an S10 round the dealers to let cusomers have a test ride. Ride On in Glasgow had and I took it out on Wed morning.
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Posted 07 August 2010 - 12:19 am

I genuinely thought it was shite.....well....kind of. initially I thought it was nice, spacious, smooth and familiar feeling because of the 270 engine. The first thing to bug me was the shafts backlash, far worse than any BMW or Guzzi from the last 10 years, it really affected the ride for me. Everything else was fine, but not amazing.

When I rode my TDM home I was really shocked, it's definitely less powerful, but not hugely, and the TDM is faaaar lighter and more flickable. It's my bike, and I know it well, but I think it's definitely nicer, and it's definitely better value, as is the 1200gs.

i borrowed a 1200gs the following day, and.......it feels alot lighter more powerful and handled better. There was no wierd reaction from the shaft, and it might eat itslef, but then so might the Yams. To add isult to injury, the GS is cheaper!

i don't ride 2 up very often, but if I did I'd definitely go for the GS over the S10, but as it is I prefer my TDM and my 800gs.

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Posted 12 August 2010 - 10:58 pm

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Not bad for a big bike, but it looks like your missus might turn into a harridan.

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Posted 12 August 2010 - 11:30 pm

I have a 900 which is great once it gets going but low end torque is weak and I find commuting a drag.

I looked at the MT-01 which has heaps of grunt but looks like a wart hog.

So I'm interested to know if the Super Tenere is OK in slow traffic.

Any thoughts from those who've tried the Tenere?






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Posted 13 August 2010 - 12:30 am

QUOTE(Jelly Roll @ Fri 13th Aug 2010, 12:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have a 900 which is great once it gets going but low end torque is weak and I find commuting a drag.

I looked at the MT-01 which has heaps of grunt but looks like a wart hog.

So I'm interested to know if the Super Tenere is OK in slow traffic.

Any thoughts from those who've tried the Tenere?


Funny, I commute on my 900 everyday and feel that it has heaps of low-end grunt. Power wheelies are no prob...

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Posted 13 August 2010 - 07:23 am

Finally saw one in the flesh yesterday. Looks nice but why are manufacturers so obsessed with fitting such ugly exhaust pipes to everything at the moment?

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Posted 13 August 2010 - 10:14 am

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Finally saw one in the flesh yesterday. Looks nice but why are manufacturers so obsessed with fitting such ugly exhaust pipes to everything at the moment?



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Posted 13 August 2010 - 10:54 am

I have a 900 which is great once it gets going but low end torque is weak and I find commuting a drag.

Somethings not right i would reckon. Is the airbox mod done? You could always come to TDUT and all the assembled experts could sort it out for you?
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Posted 14 August 2010 - 12:38 am

QUOTE(Jelly Roll @ Fri 13th Aug 2010, 09:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have a 900 which is great once it gets going but low end torque is weak and I find commuting a drag.

I looked at the MT-01 which has heaps of grunt but looks like a wart hog.

So I'm interested to know if the Super Tenere is OK in slow traffic.

Any thoughts from those who've tried the Tenere?


I agree with Gaeme, sounds like maybe an engine tuning is required. I have no prob's with low end torque. Slow traffic, no problem.
The bike accelerates pretty quick with me & swambo onboard ( ~180kg combined weight)
I think the Super Tenere would be fine on road but if you plan to do much off-road it'd handle like a pig in the rougher stuff. Too bloody heavy.

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Posted 14 August 2010 - 07:49 am

I saw a Super Tenere yesterday in Melbourne. They're advertising it for nearly twenty grand (Oz dollars) which translates to at least 14,000 Euros or 11,500 quid.

These are of course initial release related Lala-land prices because I’m tipping that it will sell about as well as the TDM, i.e. not at all. In about six months the price will reduce to around $AUS 18,000.

The lack of interest might emanate from Australian riders’ blind spot for interesting twins e.g. Yamaha TDMs, MT-01 and (I suspect) the Super Tenere.

The Tenere’s custom panniers look like they're off a Hummer, very agricultural but the rest of the bike looks quite tasty. It seems to have a high centre of gravity and the brake lever appears to be quite tiny and semi-concealed.

I’m planning a test ride.


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Posted 14 August 2010 - 08:08 am

seen one for the 1st time in Chorley Yamaha, cetainly looks the biz, mind you £12000 plus.
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Posted 15 August 2010 - 10:14 pm

QUOTE(Jelly Roll @ Fri 13th Aug 2010, 12:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So I'm interested to know if the Super Tenere is OK in slow traffic.

Any thoughts from those who've tried the Tenere?


It was fine in slow traffic. The steering is pretty light and you don't notice the weight of the bike. The only thing I found with the bike I tried was the clutch was pretty abrupt on take up. As soon as you thought about letting out the clutch lever it engaged and you kinda lurched forward. Got used to it pretty quickly and could probably be adjusted out. The clutch lever action was very light, much better than the cable operated one on my Mk2.

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Posted 16 August 2010 - 05:36 am

Had a survey in my email from Yamaha this weekend. Started off asking questions around general biking and then the last 50% of questions was focused on the Super Tenere, with questions such as "what would you change" etc, most of which had a price option. Let's hope Yamaha are listening as I'm sure anyone that filled it in stated that it is too expensive.
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Posted 16 August 2010 - 06:45 pm

QUOTE(Onanist @ Mon 16th Aug 2010, 04:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Had a survey in my email from Yamaha this weekend. Started off asking questions around general biking and then the last 50% of questions was focused on the Super Tenere, with questions such as "what would you change" etc, most of which had a price option. Let's hope Yamaha are listening as I'm sure anyone that filled it in stated that it is too expensive.

yep I did exactly that. and I wanted a smaller bike too, not a GS equiv. if I want a GS I 'll buy a GS...ther eis an unfilled niche there.

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Posted 17 August 2010 - 02:14 pm

Tinklers yammie dealer in Norwich has a xt1200z with 300miles for £10,999

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Posted 17 August 2010 - 04:03 pm

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Tinklers yammie dealer in Norwich has a xt1200z with 300miles for £10,999

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Posted 17 August 2010 - 04:20 pm

It's crap!

May sound a bit harsh but... it's got pretty much the same power to weight ratio as the 9er, but it's like 250kg!

Yamaha have totally missed the point with this bike, I for one will be keeping the 9er.

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Posted 17 August 2010 - 06:47 pm

to say its crap is a bit harsh
it seems to have enough power, if you want 150bhp or more go by an R1
one of the guys on the XTZ forum was picked by yamaha to ride one down africa for "riders for life"
he's done dune bashing, fast road, trails etc and reckons its fantastic
just seems a bit over priced

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2nd hand...already!...woz wrong with it? huh.gif

one of the sales guys rode it to a show or sumfin dunno.gif
never been sold, just preregistered with delivery mileage


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Black 1991 850 MK1, 160k+ miles(ish, best guess really, gave up trying to keep count after 3rd set of clocks and 3rd engine), PilotRoad2 tyres, custom stubby exhaust system, bluespot calipers & goodridge braided hoses with dunlopads, maxton forks, Ohlins shock, kedo handguards, stainless TDM grill, Scottoiler with lubetube & dual nozzle thingy, Givi Wingrack2 with E45 & 2xE36s, renntec crash bars, Autocom with blueteeth & PMR radio, TomTom Rider2, Optimate IIIsp, Bagster tank cover, anti-dazzle coating
to fit : led spotlights, heated grips, new braided lines and rear caliper that actually has bleed nipples
Silver-ish 2003 900, 70k miles, PilotRoad3 front tyre (new@65k) & PR2 rear(new at 69k), Renthal 755 bars with KTM handguards, oxford unheated grips, power commander 3usb, scorpion titanium exhausts, standard screen with vario winglet thingy, stainless grill, oem centre stand, bagster tank cover, givi monokey topplate mounted on grabrail with V46 topbox, Givi PL pannier rails with E21s, crash bungs, mirror extender thingys, Halfords Advanced Laser Blue brillance bulbs, 21w led spotlights, touring scottoiler with leehenty dual nozzle, Autocom with blueteeth & PMR radio, TomTom Rider3 Urban, winter style anti-dazzle coating
to fit : led brake light strip, replacement heated grips
current rides : TDM850 3vd/mk1=tourer&scratcher, TRX850=weekend twisty toy, 2003 TDM900=commuter, 2005 TDM900=unmolested.  Gone but not forgotton : XTZ750=overland touring toy, GS500e, GS125
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Posted 17 August 2010 - 07:26 pm

QUOTE(TonyDevil @ Tue 17th Aug 2010, 05:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
just seems a bit over priced

that probably is the key point. If it were available for £7K every one would be saying how brilliant it is for the money....well okay £7K is too cheap and £14K is too much. Somewhere between must lay a point where Yamaha can sell this in vast numbers.



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Posted 17 August 2010 - 07:37 pm

Probably just a demonstrator. Might pop in and have a look over the next few days as they're local.
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