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Started by longdog , Feb 24 2010 07:41 pm

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#221 harvey krumpet

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Posted 26 August 2010 - 09:50 pm

QUOTE(AussieTeeDeeMmm @ Thu 26th Aug 2010, 06:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Just my 2 cents,
I have gone from a 2003 TDM900 that was a darn nice bike to a new S10 with absolutely not one regret, it may be a heavy bike to pickup and carry through deep water but on any of the riding i have done on road or off road it feels lots lighter to ride than the mighty TDM, this is about bike #38 FOR ME AND BY FAR THE BEST i know of lots of comments about non switchable ABS etc but this is the only bike i have had that on a gravel road at 120kmph you can grab the front brake as hard as possible and the bike WILL pull up dead straight in what seems a very short time and distance. Traction control is brilliant and i am sure this is one bike i will NEVER sell, this one is definately a keeper. My only complaint is not with the bike but Yamaha Australia as they have been piss poor in getting accessories for the bike to the dealers, I have been waiting 2 months just for a bash plate and still waiting. Maybe they could have made it lighter but then the recalls for Final drive failures, breaking axles, frames etc etc etc would have tarnished their image.

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I have read a number of similar impressions over here. What you get exceeds what you expect.

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Posted 26 August 2010 - 09:51 pm

Saw one today in Metropolis Bikes in London. It's big, boy is it big so I'm not surprised it weighs what it does. Probably great for open roads and less populated areas, but I thought of busy lil' old England with all the traffic and the filtering. A less hefty bike is probably a lot easier to deal with day to day. I noticed what looks like an oil filter sticking out the lower front of the engine casing. The bottom of it is protected by a hefty bash plate but the top did look vulnerable to knocks and flying things.

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Posted 27 August 2010 - 07:57 am

QUOTE(mecrox @ Thu 26th Aug 2010, 08:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
... but the top did look vulnerable to knocks and flying things.


Not suitable for the US market then...too many UFOs laugh.gif

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Posted 27 August 2010 - 08:07 am

I saw a new 1200 going north (I was heading South) on the M6 the other day. It looked quite distinctive

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Posted 29 August 2010 - 09:27 am

Compared to BMW's GS and Duc Mulitrstrada, the new Tenere is slow (fast enough but a TDM 900 can keep up with it - allegedly), heavy, conventional, thirsty and expensive with serious doubts around resell-value. It looks rather 1990's as well... so at least not all is bad then laugh.gif

I wouldn't mind one if it was better on fuel (many report around 40 mpg, which is unacceptable for a modern engine with moderate performance), realistically priced and available for a test-ride rolleyes.gif

I'll have a TDM 850 / 900 every day, so much for progress tongue.gif
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Posted 29 August 2010 - 11:29 am

QUOTE(robelst @ Sun 29th Aug 2010, 10:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Compared to BMW's GS and Duc Mulitrstrada, the new Tenere is slow (fast enough but a TDM 900 can keep up with it - allegedly), heavy, conventional, thirsty and expensive with serious doubts around resell-value. It looks rather 1990's as well... so at least not all is bad then laugh.gif

I wouldn't mind one if it was better on fuel (many report around 40 mpg, which is unacceptable for a modern engine with moderate performance), realistically priced and available for a test-ride rolleyes.gif

I'll have a TDM 850 / 900 every day, so much for progress tongue.gif

Couldn't agree more. I've been really disappointed to read that the XTZ has the same power to weight ratio as a 9'er. Having said that I think the 900 is a perfectly balanced bike but I was expecting to read about great low and mid range torque increases from the XTZ, after all it is a 1200 ! I like the XTZ looks and the shaft drive but not at that price and performance. Maybe there's a TDM1200 shafty coming for Ł8 to 9k but for me it'd still need to provide a performance improvement across the whole rev range.
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Posted 29 August 2010 - 11:36 am

Yeah for the price it's just not 'special' enough in my book.

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Posted 29 August 2010 - 11:47 am

Hmmm
How can a bike go from Pretty:



To just plain ugly?

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Posted 29 August 2010 - 12:40 pm

laugh.gif yes it does look a bit OTT with all that luggage open
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Posted 29 August 2010 - 01:14 pm

QUOTE(Baron @ Sun 29th Aug 2010, 03:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
laugh.gif yes it does look a bit OTT with all that luggage open

Greatings from İstanbul,

Early this year Yamaha XTZ1200 Super Tenere was launched for the first time in Istanbul, Turkey, and I shared the first pictures and my impressions as a TDM'er.

Last week I had the opporunity to test ride a Super Tenere for the Turkish Motoron magazine, and here are the pics:



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TDM 900 vs SUPER TENERE

This month's magazine will have a TEST of Tenere & R1200GS & Multistrada 1200

Next month I will write a comparison article of TDM vs. Tenere, thus I left some of the pics for the next month's magazine.

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Posted 29 August 2010 - 01:57 pm

Nice pics. good.gif

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Posted 29 August 2010 - 02:12 pm

Nice looking bike, the TDM that is! wink.gif

Other than Shaft drive I see no advantage to the s10 dunno.gif

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Posted 29 August 2010 - 04:47 pm

Hmm I've gotta say.......the 9'er certainly looks the more bonny of the two when sitting next to the XTZ
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Posted 29 August 2010 - 05:06 pm

shaft drive is considered an advantage over chain by most, but personally speaking i don't mind chain n' sprox as they are cheaper to fix.

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Posted 29 August 2010 - 10:47 pm

QUOTE(wicklamulla @ Mon 30th Aug 2010, 03:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
shaft drive is considered an advantage over chain by most, but personally speaking i don't mind chain n' sprox as they are cheaper to fix.



and it's easier to get parts if something breaks in a remote town - chains are universal...

and it's cheaper to modify the final drive gearing......

and chain drives are lighter....

and chain drives rob less power (allegedly).....

and chain maintenance provides hours of entertaining reading in bike forums tongue.gif

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Posted 29 August 2010 - 10:52 pm

QUOTE(TimH @ Mon 30th Aug 2010, 01:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
and it's easier to get parts if something breaks in a remote town - chains are universal...

and it's cheaper to modify the final drive gearing......

and chain drives are lighter....

and chain drives rob less power (allegedly).....

and chain maintenance provides hours of entertaining reading in bike forums tongue.gif

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Posted 30 August 2010 - 02:44 am

Well, as for chains vs shafts, having both I'm not sure which is really more reliable but I'm certain the shaft drives are a lot less fuss to maintain. And sure, shaft drives do break, but there's no shortage of stories of buggered up engines due to chain breaks either.

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Posted 30 August 2010 - 08:16 am

QUOTE(LDRider @ Mon 30th Aug 2010, 01:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, as for chains vs shafts, having both I'm not sure which is really more reliable but I'm certain the shaft drives are a lot less fuss to maintain.


I do very little to my chain, even adjustments are very very few (twice in 30000 on the TDM), all courtesy of my scottoiler.


QUOTE(LDRider @ Mon 30th Aug 2010, 01:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And sure, shaft drives do break, but there's no shortage of stories of buggered up engines due to chain breaks either.


I'm sure that's true...but I'm not sure a TDM is really a contender in the power stakes (unless it is poorly maintained?)

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Posted 30 August 2010 - 09:03 am

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I do very little to my chain, even adjustments are very very few (twice in 30000 on the TDM), all courtesy of my scottoiler.


Same here, I top up the scottoiler ever 1000 miles or so and got 30,000 miles out of my last chain. Last time I tightened it took me under 5 minutes using the toolkit supplied with the bike, don't really get why people think chains are high maintenance.

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Posted 30 August 2010 - 01:30 pm

QUOTE(ChrisG @ Mon 30th Aug 2010, 10:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Same here, I top up the scottoiler ever 1000 miles or so and got 30,000 miles out of my last chain. Last time I tightened it took me under 5 minutes using the toolkit supplied with the bike, don't really get why people think chains are high maintenance.


Scottoiler here. I've adjusted my chain a couple of times, ironically after taking it in for a service at a Yam dealer. Despite my quoting the manual - the chain needs 50-60mm on the side stand - twice it has come back with 35-40mm. I was told that was "plenty", which is a little hard to believe. Other than that, my chain seems to sit sweet for pretty long periods. Scottoilers do seem a little prone to air bubbles in the pipe, though, and I've found it quite easy to knock out the little black injector at the business end. An excellent add-on but not foolproof. I agree that a chain is not the hassle it is often claimed to be, and unless your shaft drive fails right outside a well-stocked dealer a chain and sprocket is probably more quickly replaced or repaired.

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