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Started by dapleb , Apr 03 2006 09:40 pm

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#1 dapleb

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Posted 03 April 2006 - 09:40 pm

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Posted 08 July 2006 - 07:55 pm

I solved mine by using self amalgamating tape on the coils.
Works a treat!

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Posted 09 July 2006 - 01:18 pm

QUOTE(UncleSimon @ Sat 8th Jul 2006, 08:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I solved mine by using self amalgamating tape on the coils.
Works a treat!



ahh i didn't actually seal up the coils but i did seal up the leads and plug caps with self amalg tape.

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Posted 04 February 2007 - 12:02 am

Wouldn't this go under 'Electrical' in KB? It is about coils and leads?

Am I missing something?
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Posted 12 November 2007 - 12:20 am

Any picture Wicky ?

Mines been bucking like a rodeo mustang..... banana.gif in the wet.

Thought I sorted it with damp seal ..but its back.

What do the coils look like after you've done them ?

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Posted 12 November 2007 - 12:33 am

Yeah damp seal works for a while. My very first ever post on Carpe was about this. I bodged it with damp seal for a while. Then after noticing it arcing from lead to frame, eventually replaced the leads and waterproofed the bassads.

Just make sure you overlap slightly at both ends (the plug caps at one end and coils at t'other). Jobs a carrot.

You on a 9'er Geordie? Seems to be the mkII's more than the mkI's or 9'ers that are affected!


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Posted 12 November 2007 - 01:33 pm

Yep.. Dapleb

My 900 has had its moments in the wet of dying when you pull away from the lights.. very scarey !!!

Then Hessitating when reving , only to find a sudden surge of power......

banana.gif Yeehaa !!!!

I'll get some self -amalgamating tape and do the business.



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Posted 03 December 2007 - 01:13 pm

QUOTE(Geordie Guy @ Mon 12th Nov 2007, 01:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yep.. Dapleb

My 900 has had its moments in the wet of dying when you pull away from the lights.. very scarey !!!

Then Hessitating when reving , only to find a sudden surge of power......


Yup, sounds like mine! Even scary when you pull out to overtake and the power just goes.

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Posted 06 December 2007 - 09:26 pm

QUOTE(Geordie Guy @ Mon 12th Nov 2007, 03:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yep.. Dapleb

My 900 has had its moments in the wet of dying when you pull away from the lights.. very scarey !!!

Then Hessitating when reving , only to find a sudden surge of power......

banana.gif Yeehaa !!!!

I'll get some self -amalgamating tape and do the business.
Cheers, Ivan good.gif


I thought this was just the TPS problem (fixed at recall) but this has just started again on my 2002 900 at 34500 miles, in the torrents of rain on the M62 today

not sure what self amalamagating tape is ..or where I put it

Is this what I need?

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Posted 06 December 2007 - 09:40 pm

self amalgamating tape

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Posted 06 December 2007 - 10:21 pm

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making sure to dry all components very well before wrapping damp inside good.gif

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Posted 07 December 2007 - 07:01 pm

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making sure to dry all components very well before wrapping damp inside good.gif
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Posted 12 December 2007 - 11:03 pm

I went to buy some of that tape, when I looked at it I was a bit worried about the heat, was it up to the job.

Afterall the lead to the coil on mine rests on the block....... blink.gif



blink.gif DHOOH !!! Thats what is causing it. Its shorting in the rain to the engine block. Hence the misfires !!

Feeling the back of the lead sure enough the lead has an indent where it's been touching.

so my solution is to lift it off the block with a cable tie......



Simple...

I wonder if all 900 leads touch the top of the engine block ?

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Posted 13 December 2007 - 10:12 am

Blimey! Just checked mine, exactly the same! Add another quirk to the 900.

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Posted 13 December 2007 - 10:42 am

QUOTE(dwayne dibley @ Thu 13th Dec 2007, 04:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Blimey! Just checked mine, exactly the same! Add another quirk to the 900.


Too bad Yamaha hasn't figured this out yet. sad.gif
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Posted 15 January 2008 - 09:18 pm

Went out for a ride last sunday and the problem is back !!!!
could not believe it.. thought it was sorted.

Took the side panels off and took the leads and coils off, ready to do the self amalgamating tape business, when I noticed this



So it was arcing in two places... did the business



And what a difference... good.gif

So everyone was right, the tape insulates the leads.

Brilliant !!!!!!

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If they used some quality leads in the first place we wouldn't have to worry about this sort of thing for at least 10 years.

Unless they're wearing on the engine.

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Posted 28 January 2008 - 10:12 am

OMG!

What a transformation!

When my bike ticks over, every now and a gain the revs drop then pick up again, and if i 'blip' the throttle the revs were slow to catch up. Removed the side panels as I could hear a ticking sound, and lo an behold. A spark from the HT lead to the frame. Done the tape fix, and what a transformation, its like having my old bike back. No rough running, no rev drops, sweet.

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Posted 17 March 2008 - 02:18 am

hello boys and girls.

I been lurking in here awhile now. got my tdm850 a few weeks ago. and it ran good. up until i had it serviced. then the genius mech sprayed water all over and its been runnig like a dog ever since.

i did up the amalgamating bit.... but it still drags...

how now?

cheers all and thanx in advance.

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Posted 17 March 2008 - 08:04 am

Welcome to the party Pistolwip... good.gif

Sounds like there is water in the electrics.

Get a big can of WD40 and spray everthing you can, get the seat of as in some of the above links,

and spray inside the relay boxes. OR leave the bike out in wind.

If its just water it will eventually try off.

dont forget to update us

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