My Kinda Justice!

Posted 08 September 2010 - 08:14 pm

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Posted 08 September 2010 - 08:54 pm

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Posted 09 September 2010 - 12:29 am

QUOTE(maximuspetrolhead @ Wed 8th Sep 2010, 10:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Cool, somebody gets it!

QUOTE(TimH @ Wed 8th Sep 2010, 09:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Actually it is - natural selection removes the weaker members from a population group, thereby resulting in a stronger species. He stole things, he rode around without a helmet (which if he was wanted by the police isn't the smartest way to avoid their attention), and he died of head injuries after he crashed while not wearing a helmet. He put himself in a high risk position, and it killed him. He was 24 and no mention of children so he died before he was able to breed. Natural selection.I don't think anyone managed to smash their unprotected head into a van at speed and avoid injury at any time in motorcycling history.

Maybe a Darwin award is in order

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Posted 09 September 2010 - 06:37 am

Yup I've got a baseball bat too.

I lived next door to fecking smack head drug dealing scumbags for 4 miserable years. I wish they'd all die too.

We're too soft on this element of society.

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Posted 09 September 2010 - 06:41 am

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Posted 09 September 2010 - 09:40 am

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Posted 09 September 2010 - 10:24 am

Retribution I'd call it Something justly deserved. I'm not saying a thievin chav should die, but given the situation, what else would the chav have expected to happen. We all know how vulnerable it feels riding wi no lid, he would have felt exactly the same, probably even moreso, and yet he took the risk and lost.

He fought the law and the law won. ce'st la vie, Kay Sarah, Sarah, (Say Tarah, Tarah) it's just the way it is.....

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Posted 09 September 2010 - 10:24 am

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Posted 09 September 2010 - 11:02 am

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Posted 09 September 2010 - 11:44 am

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Posted 09 September 2010 - 12:08 pm

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Posted 09 September 2010 - 12:11 pm

QUOTE(stu @ Thu 9th Sep 2010, 07:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Thus demonstrating your complete misunderstanding of natural selection.
To quote Gandhi, who did pretty well in dealing with drug dealing thieving scumbags (the British Empire) without a baseball bat: An eye for an eye and the whole world is blind.
Call it revenge. But don't pretend it's justice.

So you're suggesting a degree in agriculture and 20 years in scientific research has given me a completely false understanding of the biological world? I have seen natural selection occur in front of me with chemical resistance in plant populations, just to name one instance, I am sure I understand the concept very well.

What does revenge have to do with it? I never suggested he deserved to die, I was stating an observation, not an opinion. And I don't believe it is justice either, no one should die just for stealing a bike.

Wish I'd kept my mouth shut now. Last post in this thread for me.

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Posted 09 September 2010 - 06:42 pm

I'm proud to be a part of this community, I really am.

Why? I hear you ask, well, this exact same thread, over the same incident, started on another forum I frequent. It only lasted approximately 5 responses before it was locked after someone complained to the admin, even though it was in the basement/unmoderated section. I do believe that caused more of a stir than said article.

Here, it started to go the same way (minus the admin lock down), however it's rolled on and a lot of good words have been said from all sides of the discussion. I have an opinion, and it's valid, however not voiced here, but I also respect some of the points raised from people that are opposing my opinion. That to me is good as it opens the mind to alternative perspectives.

This is why I love this forum and the people on it.

My life in bikes (with the random oddity) Made it to 48 with no car licence : Yamaha DT50M, Yamaha RD250E, Honda Melody (stupid law changes), Honda NS125F, Yamaha FZ600, Yamaha TDM850 MKI, CZ 125, GSXR1100WP, Aprilia RS250, Yamaha TDM850 MKII, Yamaha YZF750, Honda FT500, Reliant Rialto, Suzuki DR250, Suzuki DR650, Sukida 200, Yamaha Thunderace, Yamaha TDM900 2003, Yamaha TDM850 MKI, Triumph Tiger 1050, Triumph Tiger Explorer

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Posted 09 September 2010 - 07:39 pm

Very well said

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Posted 09 September 2010 - 08:24 pm

QUOTE(Onanist @ Thu 9th Sep 2010, 07:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I'm proud to be a part of this community, I really am.

Why? I hear you ask, well, this exact same thread, over the same incident, started on another forum I frequent. It only lasted approximately 5 responses before it was locked after someone complained to the admin, even though it was in the basement/unmoderated section. I do believe that caused more of a stir than said article.

normally i think Onanist is a complete wan@er but I have to agree on this score!

many other forums would have locked this topic off, i used to hang out on a forum that specialised in Yamaha singles between 650 & 670cc and I reckon it would have lasted about ten minutes

for my part, i think its sad - the path of being a bike thief, a drug dealer or a general ne'er do well is one that I could well have taken when i was younger, I was really really lucky that I had a really strong role model in my Mom who just about managed to keep me on the straight and narrow (the old man was a copper who was just about the most racist and homophic bloke around - remember the West Midlands Serious Crime Squad, backhanders abound) I was lucky, I got into a few minor scrapes and got pointed in the right direction, sometimes with the help of a bloody hard boot up my backside.

This guy stole a motorbike ffs. A piece of machinery. He didnt deserve to die - 'justice' implies 'equity', do you really think that the value of a life (no matter how wretched you may feel it is) equates to that of a motorbike (even a 9er!)

How about looking at it this way? You have saved for years for your pride and joy, you buy the bike of your dreams and some lowlife srote helps himself to it. Whilst trying to make his evil escape he stuffs the bike and writes it off. He is unscathed and the police scoop him up and take him into custody. In this hypothetical world there exists a piece of law whereby the victim of a crime has the opportunity to decide on the fate of the perpetrator, one of your choices is to have him sentenced to death. Now bear in mind that this is your pride and joy, you have saved up your hard earned to buy it. Who on this forum would actually make the choice to have him sentenced to death?

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Posted 09 September 2010 - 08:36 pm

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Posted 09 September 2010 - 08:40 pm

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Posted 09 September 2010 - 08:49 pm

QUOTE(newstu @ Thu 9th Sep 2010, 09:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

i really miss that bike, the forum however........................... ;-)

Met some fantastic guys on 'that' forum that I sincerely hope will be part of my life for a long time to come.... but there may be the odd occasion I can't resist stirring the hornets nest

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Posted 09 September 2010 - 08:53 pm

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Posted 09 September 2010 - 09:03 pm

QUOTE(newstu @ Thu 9th Sep 2010, 09:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

on reflection, i may have been a little unkind - there are some really good people there, very helpful and willing to go the extra mile for a 'stranger' i just dont like the way topics get locked down on there

i guess we are spoilt here

Couldn't agree more, Carpe is a wonderful place, they even allow XT riders like me to post

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