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#101 TheThigh

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Posted 05 April 2011 - 08:07 pm

QUOTE(CatsBum @ Tue 5th Apr 2011, 07:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I would like to get into my head a little bit more detail on which country will be be in on what day.

IE; How many days in France before we hit Italy, I am going to be doing the Stelvio Pass, but then which country after that. How long in Italy. With the understanding that Tony will be Fleeced if he goes near the Swiss borders, are some of us going in or avoiding?
Are we going to be having a 'chill day' where we do no riding and relax or keep touring.

I'm not in panic mode here but want to start looking at google maps for places to see while were passing through

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Hi Cats,

I'm definately going to Megatreff, but am seriously thinking about joining you guys on the Grande Tour if I can find the necessary additional euros. Is Tony's mate still thinking of joining the tour.

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Posted 05 April 2011 - 08:08 pm

QUOTE(CatsBum @ Tue 5th Apr 2011, 08:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I would like to get into my head a little bit more detail on which country will be be in on what day.

IE; How many days in France before we hit Italy, I am going to be doing the Stelvio Pass, but then which country after that. How long in Italy. With the understanding that Tony will be Fleeced if he goes near the Swiss borders, are some of us going in or avoiding?
Are we going to be having a 'chill day' where we do no riding and relax or keep touring.

I'm not in panic mode here but want to start looking at google maps for places to see while were passing through

Also:
Tony
Chris
Steve
Myself

Who have I forgotton blink.gif

Martin, I think we need a g2g somewhere after we get back from France to plan the journey properly, its no good trying to do it via the forum. When we get back we'll sort a date convenient for everyone ..... waddayathink?
Now on 9er number 2 .....

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Posted 05 April 2011 - 08:16 pm

Yep. Fine with me. As the 3 of us are local and Tonski is only way is Essex, Maybe Near ChrisG or Camberley. Dunno

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Posted 05 April 2011 - 08:30 pm

QUOTE(The Thigh @ Tue 5th Apr 2011, 09:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi Cats,

I'm definately going to Megatreff, but am seriously thinking about joining you guys on the Grande Tour if I can find the necessary additional euros. Is Tony's mate still thinking of joining the tour.

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By Tony's mate I think you mean Tiger Ray. He's not going as he's become an Old Man and doing a Cruise.

I'm sure there was 5 Amigos though? yu.gif
JHT?

Edited by CatsBum, 05 April 2011 - 08:51 pm.

#105 TonyDevil

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Posted 05 April 2011 - 11:28 pm

nah theres another essex based mate of mine (not hutch) but wont know til nearer the time
JHT wont be able to do the extended tour, he said if he makes it, it'll be the MT only

i'm planning for no motorway (except where beneficial to get around cities) i would expect night stops something like this:

15th: 23:00 Out on ferry
16th: France, camping somewhere just west of Dijon(-ish)
17th: French/Italian border (last time me & the MadTigerRay found a nice biker friendly lodge on the border, i think i know where it is if you dont want to camp)
18th: Italy, Stelvio(-ish) gotta be a campsite if the weather is good as scenary is lovely
19th: Austria or Southern Germany
20th: Southern Germany (that concentration camp tour? or day off)
21st: Southern Germany
22nd: somewhere between Southern Germany and the MT laugh.gif
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24th: MT11
25th: MT11
26th: MT11
27th: MT11 or Prague
28th: Prague or Poland
29th: Berlin
30th: Kassel
1st : West Germany maybe the biker B&B near Koblenz
2nd : ???
3rd : home
4th : work sad.gif

NB: when i say 'something like this', i really dont have anything set in stone(or even jelly), i'm quite happy just playing join the squiggles and see where we end up dunno.gif
this planning is the most i ever do more than a night it advance for tours laugh.gif

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Posted 06 April 2011 - 06:45 am

I never plan more than half an hour ahead rolleyes.gif

I'm with Tony on the keep off the motorways plan, I tend to prefer to a couple of hundred miles a day with plenty of coffee/cake stops.

Pre-meet sounds like a plan Steve. Probably better round someone's house than at a random cafe for internet access, I don't mind hosting when I work out what weekends I've got free.

Bit far for Charlie though, videoconference?


I'm coming home after the MT though, no time for Tony's extra Poland tour.

Edited by ChrisG, 06 April 2011 - 11:16 am.

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Posted 06 April 2011 - 12:03 pm

that route we did back from MT08 was 250miles of pure twisties with plenty of cake stops and took all day
but we did a simialr style of ride up from Matlock Bath to Carlisle for the Scottish G2G last year, less stops but we did manage 470+ miles in a day(300+ of twisties) if memory serves me right
admittedly half of the twisty mileage was spent chasing after HartsideMark but its still possible laugh.gif

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to fit : led spotlights, heated grips, new braided lines and rear caliper that actually has bleed nipples
Silver-ish 2003 900, 70k miles, PilotRoad3 front tyre (new@65k) & PR2 rear(new at 69k), Renthal 755 bars with KTM handguards, oxford unheated grips, power commander 3usb, scorpion titanium exhausts, standard screen with vario winglet thingy, stainless grill, oem centre stand, bagster tank cover, givi monokey topplate mounted on grabrail with V46 topbox, Givi PL pannier rails with E21s, crash bungs, mirror extender thingys, Halfords Advanced Laser Blue brillance bulbs, 21w led spotlights, touring scottoiler with leehenty dual nozzle, Autocom with blueteeth & PMR radio, TomTom Rider3 Urban, winter style anti-dazzle coating
to fit : led brake light strip, replacement heated grips
current rides : TDM850 3vd/mk1=tourer&scratcher, TRX850=weekend twisty toy, 2003 TDM900=commuter, 2005 TDM900=unmolested.  Gone but not forgotton : XTZ750=overland touring toy, GS500e, GS125
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Posted 06 April 2011 - 12:37 pm

And I'm also not wanting Motorways. Need to see as much of each country as possible

Very much like to do the death camps and pay respects too. sleep.gif

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Posted 10 April 2011 - 03:13 pm

I certainly don't want to interfere with your planning, just some information. The season might still be early for the Stelvio. You can always have a current visual status update here: http://webcam.popso..../IT/IDPagina/28

And the "officlal" road status from the authorities (in German): http://www.provinz.b...ex_d.asp?Type=2

Best of luck for your planned trip. I want to see you all safely arriving at the MT site.

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Posted 10 April 2011 - 04:01 pm

i've been to Stelvio 2or3 times now and each time its been closed (but that has been late May)
when does it normally open?

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Black 1991 850 MK1, 160k+ miles(ish, best guess really, gave up trying to keep count after 3rd set of clocks and 3rd engine), PilotRoad2 tyres, custom stubby exhaust system, bluespot calipers & goodridge braided hoses with dunlopads, maxton forks, Ohlins shock, kedo handguards, stainless TDM grill, Scottoiler with lubetube & dual nozzle thingy, Givi Wingrack2 with E45 & 2xE36s, renntec crash bars, Autocom with blueteeth & PMR radio, TomTom Rider2, Optimate IIIsp, Bagster tank cover, anti-dazzle coating
to fit : led spotlights, heated grips, new braided lines and rear caliper that actually has bleed nipples
Silver-ish 2003 900, 70k miles, PilotRoad3 front tyre (new@65k) & PR2 rear(new at 69k), Renthal 755 bars with KTM handguards, oxford unheated grips, power commander 3usb, scorpion titanium exhausts, standard screen with vario winglet thingy, stainless grill, oem centre stand, bagster tank cover, givi monokey topplate mounted on grabrail with V46 topbox, Givi PL pannier rails with E21s, crash bungs, mirror extender thingys, Halfords Advanced Laser Blue brillance bulbs, 21w led spotlights, touring scottoiler with leehenty dual nozzle, Autocom with blueteeth & PMR radio, TomTom Rider3 Urban, winter style anti-dazzle coating
to fit : led brake light strip, replacement heated grips
current rides : TDM850 3vd/mk1=tourer&scratcher, TRX850=weekend twisty toy, 2003 TDM900=commuter, 2005 TDM900=unmolested.  Gone but not forgotton : XTZ750=overland touring toy, GS500e, GS125
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Posted 13 April 2011 - 07:48 pm

QUOTE(TonyDevil @ Sun 10th Apr 2011, 04:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i've been to Stelvio 2or3 times now and each time its been closed (but that has been late May)
when does it normally open?


Usually open from mid June through to September.
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Posted 13 April 2011 - 08:01 pm

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Usually open from mid June through to September.
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hopefully we be ok then cool.gif

"Never argue with an idiot. They just bring you down to their level and beat you with experience"
My TDM :
Black 1991 850 MK1, 160k+ miles(ish, best guess really, gave up trying to keep count after 3rd set of clocks and 3rd engine), PilotRoad2 tyres, custom stubby exhaust system, bluespot calipers & goodridge braided hoses with dunlopads, maxton forks, Ohlins shock, kedo handguards, stainless TDM grill, Scottoiler with lubetube & dual nozzle thingy, Givi Wingrack2 with E45 & 2xE36s, renntec crash bars, Autocom with blueteeth & PMR radio, TomTom Rider2, Optimate IIIsp, Bagster tank cover, anti-dazzle coating
to fit : led spotlights, heated grips, new braided lines and rear caliper that actually has bleed nipples
Silver-ish 2003 900, 70k miles, PilotRoad3 front tyre (new@65k) & PR2 rear(new at 69k), Renthal 755 bars with KTM handguards, oxford unheated grips, power commander 3usb, scorpion titanium exhausts, standard screen with vario winglet thingy, stainless grill, oem centre stand, bagster tank cover, givi monokey topplate mounted on grabrail with V46 topbox, Givi PL pannier rails with E21s, crash bungs, mirror extender thingys, Halfords Advanced Laser Blue brillance bulbs, 21w led spotlights, touring scottoiler with leehenty dual nozzle, Autocom with blueteeth & PMR radio, TomTom Rider3 Urban, winter style anti-dazzle coating
to fit : led brake light strip, replacement heated grips
current rides : TDM850 3vd/mk1=tourer&scratcher, TRX850=weekend twisty toy, 2003 TDM900=commuter, 2005 TDM900=unmolested.  Gone but not forgotton : XTZ750=overland touring toy, GS500e, GS125
If a strange looking truck driver honks at you & gives you the thumbs up, its could be me  :good:

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Posted 24 May 2011 - 07:56 pm

What about doing the Millau Viaduct?
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Posted 24 May 2011 - 08:16 pm

We did it 2 years ago. However, if its on route..... rolleyes.gif

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Posted 24 May 2011 - 08:38 pm

It's over rated - only a bridge rolleyes.gif

More impressive if you do it from North to South though - the A75 south of it down to Montpelier is awsome - knee down bends on a motorway yahoo.gif

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Posted 24 May 2011 - 08:57 pm

It all comes down to a planned route on where were going before the Germany meet.

Spoke to Steve, or was it text? , no we spoke and Steve was unsure on my comment on doing Lake Garda. Pointed out that we are 8 days in front of Bomber Command and will have time to do stuff.

So we need to get a big map out, link it with a calendar, and do some planning, nothing in depth, just what we could achieve

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 08:34 am

Lets make sure we're not near any big towns on the first Saturday

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 09:15 am

Scary

EDIT: Anyone got a spare switch for Aux lighting?

Im fitting a 'hidden' 12v Socket like Ivan's and whilst the fairing is off could do the lights too

Edited by Cats, 29 May 2011 - 11:00 am.

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Posted 05 June 2011 - 10:34 am

After some post beer mapage last night we've come up with a possible 950 mile route to Lake Garda, should be reasonably easily doable in 3 days assuming we do a bit more mileage the first day as we're off the ferry pretty early. This is avoiding main roads where possible and after Annecy we're in to proper mountain roads. If we're behind schedule we could easily drop a few waypoints to skirt around some wiggly bits, particularly around Milan but that would mean the best part of 100 miles on motorways rather than interesting stuff.

This would mean a lunch stop in Annecy (point 27) rather than camping there though, I know Steve's keen to visit, would you prefer to camp there?



This would mean

Wednesday night - Ferry
Thursday night - somewhere between points 21 and 22 (330 to 375 miles), somewhere around the town of Luzy.
Friday night - Wester Italy, say somewhere near Aosta (point 37, 660 miles)
Saturday night - Lake Garda.

Thinking ride until late afternoon and then start looking for campsites rather than having fixed locations in mind.

Not done any detail beyond that but how about

Sunday night - Lake Garda again having had a day in the mountains (Stelvio etc) with no luggage
Monday night - Salzburg (250-300ish miles) to look around Eagles nest Tuesday morning
Tuesday night - Dachau (150ish miles) to look around Dachau Wednesday morning
Wednesday night- ?
Thursday night - Masserberg

Dachau to Masserberg is about 250 miles so we've got plenty of slack still if we find other stuff to look at on route and drop everything back by a day, I'm thinking maybe an extra night in the mountains and slip Salzburg and Dachau by a day.


Previous experience shows no plan actually survives contact with reality so don't go thinking this anything we're particularly attached to. What do you reckon?

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Posted 05 June 2011 - 10:42 am

As long as we don't start doing 3ft wide gravel paths with luggage then It's a plan I like good.gif

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Edited by Cats, 05 June 2011 - 10:43 am.

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