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#61 aytcat1

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Posted 19 January 2007 - 06:18 pm

I got my v strom 650 hand guards today,now have to decide do i paint them same colour as bike or get some TDM stickers to go on them.


Anybody know where i could get some TDM stickers if i decide on doing that.

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Posted 20 January 2007 - 12:49 am

QUOTE(aytcat1 @ Fri 19th Jan 2007, 06:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I got my v strom 650 hand guards today,now have to decide do i paint them same colour as bike or get some TDM stickers to go on them.
Anybody know where i could get some TDM stickers if i decide on doing that.

usually see TDM decal kits fer sale on ebay every now and then Alan.

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Posted 20 January 2007 - 07:50 pm

I used Polisport 'Integral' guards and fitted extra large spoilers to them.
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Posted 20 January 2007 - 08:15 pm

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I used Polisport 'Integral' guards and fitted extra large spoilers to them.
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Posted 20 January 2007 - 08:23 pm

Sorry, try this
http://viewmorepics....endID=150622010
That don't work either, any idias anyone ?

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Posted 20 January 2007 - 08:27 pm

QUOTE(wicklamulla @ Sat 20th Jan 2007, 12:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
usually see TDM decal kits fer sale on ebay every now and then Alan.

Yea iv seen them on there before now Wick but dont like buying stuff from E bay got this thing about it i supose, but the postage prob be more than the stickers but ill look to see if the shop can do them direct if i spot some

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Posted 20 January 2007 - 10:12 pm

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Sorry, try this
http://viewmorepics....endID=150622010
That don't work either, any idias anyone ?

My be that your pics are set to private not public,im on MYspace and logged on but then lost your link lol

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Posted 21 January 2007 - 06:33 pm

Now then,

I had a go at the Suzuki V-Strom 650 protectors.
I paid just over 20 quid at Fowlers for a new pair of black ones which is nice. They have a good looking shape, not too "loud" / overly moto-cross like and seem promisingly effective (will find out later this week, temperatures are seriously dropping from tomorrow!).

They are on th bike now, but not without some slight mods.

First of all, the bolts that come with them are not useful: You basically need the same bolts as used on the brake and clutch handles, but just half an inch longer. Washers and spacer can be used.
They fit well, although you need to saw a little bit off to fit it around the bottom of the brake fluid reservoir / switch unit. This is easy to do and you don't see a thing.
I also had to set the brake-handle adjuster one click back (mine was on maximum, got rather huge hands rolleyes.gif ): the handle came a little too near to the protector's inside/

The biggest problem was fitting them around the handle-bar ends; they are supposed to fork around the base between the bar-end weights and rubber grips, but that doesn't really fit on the TDM ones: Surprisingly, the position is correct, but the bar-end base is too thick; I initially made the "forks" a bit wider but they slid off too easily when tightening the bar-end weight and on the right hand side obstruct the throttle movement.
In the end I took the forks off the protectors altogether using a little hack saw, and drilled two little holes to allow a tie-wrap through: Now the protector-ends nicely rest against the bar-end weights strapped on tightly: The conical shape of the weights perfectly match the rounded gap left after sawing off those "forks" and prevent any movement. It probably won't win any awards for fine engineering and Fred Dibnah might have frowned on it but I am quite happy with it. I will probably only use them in the winter anyway and they are easy to take off without leaving any trace. If you want to fit them permanently there are probably neater ways to get around this problem.

I will make a picture of them later on banana.gif

I can recommend them, but you will need different bolts and a bit of DIY. Not bad at all for a set of cheap protectors that were tailor-made for a completely different bike cool.gif
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Posted 21 January 2007 - 07:04 pm

QUOTE(robelst @ Sun 21st Jan 2007, 06:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Now then,

I had a go at the Suzuki V-Strom 650 protectors.
I paid just over 20 quid at Fowlers for a new pair of black ones which is nice. They have a good looking shape, not too "loud" / overly moto-cross like and seem promisingly effective (will find out later this week, temperatures are seriously dropping from tomorrow!).

They are on th bike now, but not without some slight mods.

First of all, the bolts that come with them are not useful: You basically need the same bolts as used on the brake and clutch handles, but just half an inch longer. Washers and spacer can be used.
They fit well, although you need to saw a little bit off to fit it around the bottom of the brake fluid reservoir / switch unit. This is easy to do and you don't see a thing.
I also had to set the brake-handle adjuster one click back (mine was on maximum, got rather huge hands rolleyes.gif ): the handle came a little too near to the protector's inside/

The biggest problem was fitting them around the handle-bar ends; they are supposed to fork around the base between the bar-end weights and rubber grips, but that doesn't really fit on the TDM ones: Surprisingly, the position is correct, but the bar-end base is too thick; I initially made the "forks" a bit wider but they slid off too easily when tightening the bar-end weight and on the right hand side obstruct the throttle movement.
In the end I took the forks off the protectors altogether using a little hack saw, and drilled two little holes to allow a tie-wrap through: Now the protector-ends nicely rest against the bar-end weights strapped on tightly: The conical shape of the weights perfectly match the rounded gap left after sawing off those "forks" and prevent any movement. It probably won't win any awards for fine engineering and Fred Dibnah might have frowned on it but I am quite happy with it. I will probably only use them in the winter anyway and they are easy to take off without leaving any trace. If you want to fit them permanently there are probably neater ways to get around this problem.

I will make a picture of them later on banana.gif

I can recommend them, but you will need different bolts and a bit of DIY. Not bad at all for a set of cheap protectors that were tailor-made for a completely different bike cool.gif



I got a pair of them yea the bolts they supply are wrong size where did you get your from to fit?
did notice that some plastic got to be taken off.
Did you try the bar end spacers that came with the pack and if so didnt they fit with the TDM bar end weights

When i got them from my local bike dealer he couldnt believe how cheap they were comparing them to OEM ones etc for some dirt bikes.

Edited by aytcat1, 21 January 2007 - 07:07 pm.


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Posted 21 January 2007 - 09:59 pm

QUOTE(aytcat1 @ Sun 21st Jan 2007, 06:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I got a pair of them yea the bolts they supply are wrong size where did you get your from to fit?
did notice that some plastic got to be taken off.
Did you try the bar end spacers that came with the pack and if so didnt they fit with the TDM bar end weights

The bar-end weights (at least the ones on my 2001 model) don't have the usual long thin screws through them that end up in expanders, but the weights themselves screw directly into the handlebar-ends as a whole. In other words, the bar end spacers and the long thin screws that come with the set are of no use whatsoever dry.gif Maybe this is different on other model-year TDMs?

The longer screws you need to replace the original ones in the handles are just bog standard bolts (10 mm heads). I happened to have a couple lying around, but any hardware shop should be able to supply you. You could actually use the original ones since they tap straight into a threaded hole but they are not long enough to secure them at the bottom with a nut. It's probably not going to kill you but I suppose it's better to have those nuts on because that's how they are fitted as standard; and if you put a washer on they will support the hand-protectors a bit more as well. I achieved a very stable setup, better than the ones on my Africa Twin. And those are standard OE items wink.gif

Edited by robelst, 21 January 2007 - 10:08 pm.

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Posted 21 January 2007 - 10:40 pm

QUOTE(robelst @ Sun 21st Jan 2007, 06:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I will make a picture of them later on banana.gif


So were are the pictures then.......

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Posted 22 January 2007 - 08:11 pm

QUOTE(TDMTAM @ Sun 21st Jan 2007, 10:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So were are the pictures then.......

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Well, here are some:

From a distance:

Looks alright I think. Shape is pretty and today (c-c-c-cold!) proved very effective: They are not just flat bits of plastic sitting somewhere in front of your hands (like on my Africa Twin and XT), but the hands are half inside them. Of course they don't radiate or store any heat but it takes considerably longer to cool down your hands.

The fit on the handle bolts is excellent, only need to cut off a bit at the bottom of the right one to fit against the brake fluid reservor/brake-pump switch.

Mounting them to the bar-ends worked out to be more adventurous because of the different way the weights are fitted on ta TDM. They have little "forks" at the end, supposed to grab the top of the bar-end weight. This is how I started (and still have it on the left hand side):

Not great, the rubber is partly pushed away and the protector slightly bent. I had to widen the fork and use a supporting tie-wrap to make it stick.


This is what I did on the right hand side:

I cut of the little "fork", drilled two little holes (see arrows) and pulled a strong tie-wrap through:



Because the protectors don't bend easily, are firmly screwed to the handles at the other side and because of the conical shape of the weights the tie-wraps are firmly kept in place (far more firmly than the picture may suggest wink.gif ) and will not slide off without removing the bolts.

Again, there are better looking ways of doing this but it works and I wanted to do it quickly because of the upcoming cold and all the time I had already spent on changing the cam-chain and drive chain.

It'll be interesting to see how others will solve the fitting to the handle-bar ends?
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Posted 22 January 2007 - 09:22 pm

QUOTE(robelst @ Mon 22nd Jan 2007, 07:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, here are some:


It'll be interesting to see how others will solve the fitting to the handle-bar ends?


Pulled up at the local machine shop (allen key in hand, removed end weights) went in asked if they could do a small job on the lathe good.gif

10 mins later here is the results (well i have sprayed them since) wink.gif




Cost = 1 bag of chips for his dinner and 2 rollies and a chat good.gif (result)



i have test fitted them but removed again as i am going to fit the heated grips hopefully tommorow.

BTW all the bits that come in the dl650 kit work spot on for the 900. the only one thing you have to do is the pivot pin for the clutch side you have to drill out the thread in the bottom of the clutch lever mount, this is to allow the new stud (suzi one) to pass down through as it is a set thread. (when you have the kit you will know what i mean).

Apart from the above it has all fitted without any modification wink.gif and with a little luck, now that they are in the correct position i might even be able to remove the handlebar raisers i bought. (dont forget i have renthall bars that are lower then standard bars)

so if your after a cheap set of handguards i can reccomend this modification good.gif

pictures and a in depth guide will follow when i have the time

Edited by amarko5, 22 January 2007 - 09:23 pm.

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Posted 22 January 2007 - 09:46 pm

now for the likes of TDMTam (with non standard yam bar weights)

suzuki kindly provide you with these (and the longer screw) that you fit in between your weight and the bars to give you the portion to clip the guards on without cutting anything.





hope this helps good.gif

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Posted 22 January 2007 - 09:56 pm

QUOTE(amarko5 @ Mon 22nd Jan 2007, 09:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Pulled up at the local machine shop (allen key in hand, removed end weights) went in asked if they could do a small job on the lathe good.gif

10 mins later here is the results (well i have sprayed them since) wink.gif


Cost = 1 bag of chips for his dinner and 2 rollies and a chat good.gif (result)
i have test fitted them but removed again as i am going to fit the heated grips hopefully tommorow.

BTW all the bits that come in the dl650 kit work spot on for the 900. the only one thing you have to do is the pivot pin for the clutch side you have to drill out the thread in the bottom of the clutch lever mount, this is to allow the new stud (suzi one) to pass down through as it is a set thread. (when you have the kit you will know what i mean).

Apart from the above it has all fitted without any modification wink.gif and with a little luck, now that they are in the correct position i might even be able to remove the handlebar raisers i bought. (dont forget i have renthall bars that are lower then standard bars)

so if your after a cheap set of handguards i can reccomend this modification good.gif

pictures and a in depth guide will follow when i have the time

That looks good, I like that cool.gif I may review my solution once I feel like working on the bike again but after 3 weekends of spannering I've had enough for a while. laugh.gif

Interesting all other parts fit the 900, the bolts don't fit the 850 (although easily fixed of course: just two longer bolts and the protectors hook in perfectly at both ends).

I really like the Suzuki protectors, esp in combination with not having the painfully ugly looking V-Strom attached to them. yahoo.gif

QUOTE(amarko5 @ Mon 22nd Jan 2007, 09:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
now for the likes of TDMTam (with non standard yam bar weights)

suzuki kindly provide you with these (and the longer screw) that you fit in between your weight and the bars to give you the portion to clip the guards on without cutting anything.

hope this helps good.gif

Are earlier TDMs' bar weights like this?
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Posted 22 January 2007 - 10:00 pm

QUOTE(robelst @ Mon 22nd Jan 2007, 09:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I really like the Suzuki protectors, esp in combination with not having the painfully ugly looking V-Strom attached to them. yahoo.gif


seconded Rob. i think they look very sharp and modern wink.gif (just wish i had somewhere inside to work on the bike. This damn weather is depressing me, and hindering all my mods and maintainance work ranting.gif


QUOTE(robelst @ Mon 22nd Jan 2007, 09:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Are earlier TDMs' bar weights like this?


don't think so blink.gif but i am sure Tam has the renthall bars and renthall bar end weights If my memory serves me well from previous posts. tongue.gif (if my memory doesn't then there is someone out there that has rentalls and rentall weights) so it may help them wink.gif

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Posted 23 January 2007 - 07:24 am

QUOTE(amarko5 @ Mon 22nd Jan 2007, 09:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
don't think so blink.gif but i am sure Tam has the renthall bars and renthall bar end weights If my memory serves me well from previous posts.



Yep your right I have Renthal med road bars on mine. The guards look good and at £22 I may just opt for them over the BMW ones.
Thanks for the pictures and details.
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Posted 23 January 2007 - 09:11 am

QUOTE(amarko5 @ Mon 22nd Jan 2007, 09:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
(just wish i had somewhere inside to work on the bike. This damn weather is depressing me, and hindering all my mods and maintainance work ranting.gif

Hm, yeah. We've got a big garage but it's unheated, full of bikes and other stuff, and I prefer working outside under the carport anyway because of the better light (during the day that is rolleyes.gif ). I worked in between the worst of the storms, and now it's too cold to hold a spanner in your hand. So I am glad I've got them on and all the work's done. cool.gif
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Posted 25 January 2007 - 12:29 am

tutorial now here http://www.carpe-tdm...?showtopic=3008

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