Cheers Lee, need to have a ponder about this and when it can get done......
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Rear Suspension Bush, Let This Be A Lesson To You!
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, Oct 05 2014 11:06 am
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Posted 08 October 2014 - 08:21 am
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Posted 08 October 2014 - 12:23 pm
mmm. Not a pleasant thing to come across.
So this has now got me thinking I had better grease mine. Is there a schematic or a methodology for greasing the suspension linkage? Or, if no issues, this is a fairly straight forward job?
Edited by m0rt, 08 October 2014 - 12:23 pm.
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Posted 08 October 2014 - 08:47 pm
straightforward job. Support wheel undo the bolts, push out the sleeves apply grease to the needle rollers put them back. The only one that might give trouble is the bottom one attached to the frame.
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Posted 09 October 2014 - 06:02 am
Cheers.
Anyone know the torque values of those bolts when doing back up? (I really need to get a manual :/ )
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Posted 09 October 2014 - 07:04 am
Ok - so this is where I am at.
All bolts removed, thought the swingarm dogbone side is now loose but haven't removed yet. The two bushes that we can get to are fine, the rollers seem fine.
I now know what everyone else has been saying! How do I even start to remove the frame side bush?? I can't get a purchase on it, the section where it mates with the t'other side is to smooth go get any purchase on...
The condition of everything is ok other than a little bit of surface rust on the steel bolt and in the bush.
Currently I have left it with some ACF 50 on the outer side for the hell of it before I try and see how to get a purchase to exert some force....
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Posted 09 October 2014 - 08:21 am
OK. Sorry to hijack this as a blog.
I has Rawl bolts.
M6 to be precise....
Going in...
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Posted 09 October 2014 - 08:29 am
OK. Sorry to hijack this as a blog.
I has Rawl bolts.
M6 to be precise....
Going in...
You might be fine m0rt, does'nt seem to be very many effected with the problem, well till maybe now when they all go check
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Posted 09 October 2014 - 08:47 am
Cheers.
Anyone know the torque values of those bolts when doing back up? (I really need to get a manual :/ )
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Posted 09 October 2014 - 09:24 am
Cheers for the comments guys.
I have it out.
M6 Rawl bolt, smoothed head down with bolt in drill and file.
TIghten up in hole, use 20mm ID 2mm thick washers and I have it. I am just cleaning up the bush to see if it is ok.
Edited by m0rt, 09 October 2014 - 11:27 am.
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Posted 09 October 2014 - 09:42 am
Autosol whilst still in drill polished it a treat.
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Posted 09 October 2014 - 10:58 am
Wahey!
I need to check the torque to see what my "Bloody Tight" equates to, but apart from about 1 hour to go get the Rawl bolt and use it to extract, job was fairly straight forward.
This was on a '07 with 16k on the clock and that was as awkward as I would want it to be. So if you HAVEN'T done this yet and you don't know the provenance, I suggest you start thinking about it. If I had to commute and especially through the winter, I can guarantee this would have been a lot worse.
PS - if the eagle-eyed amongst you spot something not quite right with the boike, it is deliberate because it is coming off right now.
Edited by m0rt, 09 October 2014 - 11:00 am.
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Posted 09 October 2014 - 12:46 pm
should look after yer nuts. 
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Posted 09 October 2014 - 12:57 pm
What nuts?
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Posted 09 October 2014 - 05:40 pm
well done M0rt, yours was reasonably free. ChrisR's was in there tighter than a nuns chuff.
All my efforts at pulling it out with expanding tools failed.
Hope you was generous with the grease putting it back.
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Posted 09 October 2014 - 06:31 pm
are the nuts missing from the centre stand bolts? (don't know I've not got one 
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anyway re-greased my bush/bearings today, so hope fully a bit less to fail on me 
some good info on this site eh 
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Posted 09 October 2014 - 07:17 pm
um them centre stand pivot bolts usually have nyloc nuts on them
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Posted 09 October 2014 - 07:44 pm
Seems the eagle eyed on a pic aren't so eagle eyed on the text below the pic:
"PS - if the eagle-eyed amongst you spot something not quite right with the boike, it is deliberate because it is coming off right now."
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Posted 10 October 2014 - 12:18 pm
had a look at the suspension linkage while I washed the bike down. Looks to be plenty of chain oil fling there to coat the general area, so I hope that's protecting it.
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Posted 10 October 2014 - 05:06 pm
had a look at the suspension linkage while I washed the bike down. Looks to be plenty of chain oil fling there to coat the general area, so I hope that's protecting it.
I certainly would'nt bank on it, mines also had a scottoiler since before i owned it with, plenty of fling and that collar is stuck fast mate, a visual inspection wont cut it.
Bigred mk1 R1 Calipers- Braided lines- Givi wing rack-Crash bungs- Hi vis bullets-PR2's- and a hoot to ride.
Quad 900 Silver Laser duo tech pipes-Scott oiler-Engine crash bars- Radiator mounted see me ring LED's-Datatool system 3 alarm -Centre stand- Extender fender-Renthal bars-Handle bar risers-Mirror extenders-BMW GS Handgaurds-Acumen uprated horn & Nautilus-Stainless steel Radiator guard-Givi wing rack-OEM screen-Yammy touring screen-MRA Vario-MRA Double bubble cut down for fast as fk riding-Tiger screen-Tank protector-Stomp grip panels-Optimate lead Gone to Heaven
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Posted 14 November 2014 - 08:42 pm
Posted 09 October 2014 - 09:24 AM
Mort said
Cheers for the comments guys.
I have it out.
M6 Rawl bolt, smoothed head down with bolt in drill and file
TIghten up in hole, use 20mm ID 2mm thick washers and I have it. I am just cleaning up the bush to see if it is ok
Sorry about this and hope doesn,t sound too daft but how ? and what are the 20mm washers for?
I have never done this work on the bike before and wish to have ago
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ps did the bush just push back in ? again sorry for asking daft questions
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