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TDM850 engine modifications

Started by Guest_Emmett_* , Nov 29 2006 09:33 pm

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#21 Hartside Man

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Posted 12 December 2006 - 07:16 pm

QUOTE(Emmett @ Tue 12th Dec 2006, 06:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Hopefully I'll have some news tomorrow evening.....................................................hopefully

will be interesting to hear what it feels like when your finished , weather dependant i suppose

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#22 dandywarhol

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Posted 15 December 2006 - 10:09 pm

Well, I heard the weeeee man's hybrid tonight and it sounds luverly and quiet..................

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#23 Hartside Man

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Posted 15 December 2006 - 11:15 pm

QUOTE(dandywarhol @ Fri 15th Dec 2006, 09:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Well, I heard the weeeee man's hybrid tonight and it sounds luverly and quiet..................

excellent

that means its running at least

now to see how thirsty it is for oil

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I have a Ghost S and i'm not afraid to use it !

A Beast in Orange Called KaTie eM

"Four wheels move the body. Two wheels move the soul".

"So you just ride somewhere, eat cake and then ride back".

"Normal people believe that if it ain't broken, don't fix it. Engineers believe that if it ain't broken, it doesn't have enough features yet."

" I We're Ridin so Fast , I we're sucking Rabbits from the Hedges " {Guy Martin}

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#24 dapleb

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Posted 15 December 2006 - 11:33 pm

QUOTE(amarko5 @ Fri 15th Dec 2006, 11:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

now to see how thirsty it is for oil

My bet is NON.

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#25 Hartside Man

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Posted 15 December 2006 - 11:35 pm

QUOTE(dapleb @ Fri 15th Dec 2006, 11:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

My bet is NON.

i would tend to agree with you dappers

just wondering how emmett's gonna handle all the extra power the 9ner produces

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I have a Ghost S and i'm not afraid to use it !

A Beast in Orange Called KaTie eM

"Four wheels move the body. Two wheels move the soul".

"So you just ride somewhere, eat cake and then ride back".

"Normal people believe that if it ain't broken, don't fix it. Engineers believe that if it ain't broken, it doesn't have enough features yet."

" I We're Ridin so Fast , I we're sucking Rabbits from the Hedges " {Guy Martin}

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#26 dapleb

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Posted 16 December 2006 - 01:57 am

QUOTE(amarko5 @ Fri 15th Dec 2006, 11:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

extra power the 9ner produces

...again, my bet is NON

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#27 Guest_Emmett_*

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Posted 16 December 2006 - 07:59 am

QUOTE(dapleb @ Sat 16th Dec 2006, 01:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

...again, my bet is NON

I'm running her in gentle enough, so no trouble with the power increase yet. It feels a little more grunty at low revs, but I dunno what it's like over 5thou. I did 80 miles on it yesterday, and it didn't burn a drop of oil, but even wickys bike wouldn't burn oil if it was ridden so softly.

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#28 wicklamulla

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Posted 16 December 2006 - 02:06 pm

QUOTE(Emmett @ Sat 16th Dec 2006, 07:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I'm running her in gentle enough, so no trouble with the power increase yet. It feels a little more grunty at low revs, but I dunno what it's like over 5thou. I did 80 miles on it yesterday, and it didn't burn a drop of oil, but even wickys bike wouldn't burn oil if it was ridden so softly.

go aasy there ffs Emmett ya no how i feel bout that

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#29 ChrisG

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Posted 16 December 2006 - 03:28 pm

QUOTE(Emmett @ Sat 16th Dec 2006, 07:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I'm running her in gentle enough, so no trouble with the power increase yet. It feels a little more grunty at low revs, but I dunno what it's like over 5thou. I did 80 miles on it yesterday, and it didn't burn a drop of oil, but even wickys bike wouldn't burn oil if it was ridden so softly.

What's it like for vibration? I'd have though changing the piston and con rods would have been enough of a change of weight to put a smile on the face of any female pillions.

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#30 Guest_Emmett_*

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Posted 16 December 2006 - 07:23 pm

QUOTE(ChrisG @ Sat 16th Dec 2006, 03:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

What's it like for vibration? I'd have though changing the piston and con rods would have been enough of a change of weight to put a smile on the face of any female pillions.

I haven't noticed any NEW vibes, but then as I said it still hasn't been revved hard, so that could be an issue at some point.

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#31 Hartside Man

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Posted 17 December 2006 - 12:45 am

QUOTE(Emmett @ Sat 16th Dec 2006, 07:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I'm running her in gentle enough, so no trouble with the power increase yet. It feels a little more grunty at low revs, but I dunno what it's like over 5thou. I did 80 miles on it yesterday, and it didn't burn a drop of oil, but even wickys bike wouldn't burn oil if it was ridden so softly.

So did you have to alter the fueling at all ? or have you not investigated any of that yet ? i know its only about 25ccs per pot but surely there needs to be a slight increase

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I have a Ghost S and i'm not afraid to use it !

A Beast in Orange Called KaTie eM

"Four wheels move the body. Two wheels move the soul".

"So you just ride somewhere, eat cake and then ride back".

"Normal people believe that if it ain't broken, don't fix it. Engineers believe that if it ain't broken, it doesn't have enough features yet."

" I We're Ridin so Fast , I we're sucking Rabbits from the Hedges " {Guy Martin}

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#32 Guest_Emmett_*

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Posted 17 December 2006 - 09:13 am

QUOTE(amarko5 @ Sun 17th Dec 2006, 12:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

So did you have to alter the fueling at all ? or have you not investigated any of that yet ? i know its only about 25ccs per pot but surely there needs to be a slight increase

I've added a K&N filter, put it all back together, balanced the carbs, and so far so good. It feels just fine, but once it's run in a bit I'll have it dyno'd and set up properly.

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#33 ROB1

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Posted 17 December 2006 - 03:25 pm

emmett have you done a costing on your project.purchase of parts every thing really to get to where you are now.

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#34 wicklamulla

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Posted 17 December 2006 - 03:45 pm

QUOTE(ROB1 @ Sun 17th Dec 2006, 03:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

emmett have you done a costing on your project.purchase of parts every thing really to get to where you are now.

baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

gwan Emmett tell em'

(he's feckin loaded that lad, so no matter

)

~~spyball alarm/immob,~~ bluespot brake calipers and Stainless hoses, Fournales air adjustable shock with Remote Resevoir, forks raised 10mm thru yokes, racetech linear fork springs in 15 wt oil, Kappa wingrack/luggage, heated grips, Kedo handguards, dual heat controller to power heated jacket liner and or pants!!, Stebel 136DB horn, K&N air filter, colour matched Baglux tank cover (magnetic tank bag modified to fit cover), osram +50% headloight bulbs, headlight protector,"~~NitramSpecial" parking loight, tail light~~ indicators all running on LED's & incorporate "Lite Buddies", MK7 Scottoiler fitted, taller screen, 2-2 stainless steel CCC's, Devil stainless down pipes. MKI Renntec engine crash bars & sump guard.
engine changed july 2007 on a dyno run it made 79.1BHP / Torque 59.9Had a brief flirtation with a 1999 MKIIa but it blew an exaust valve on the M5 so was sold on to be repaired.

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#35 Guest_Emmett_*

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Posted 17 December 2006 - 08:02 pm

QUOTE(wicklamulla @ Sun 17th Dec 2006, 03:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

gwan Emmett tell em'

(he's feckin loaded that lad, so no matter

)

I'm trying not to think about it Rob, but definitely under a grand.

I'm not loaded anymore

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#36 Minty Hippo

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Posted 17 December 2006 - 09:16 pm

QUOTE(Emmett @ Sun 17th Dec 2006, 07:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I'm trying not to think about it Rob, but definitely under a grand.

I'm not loaded anymore

Think about all the oil you won't be buying... and all the smoke I won't be inhaling...

Seriously though, good job, I am well impressed. You deserve some sort of carpe award.

It will be nearly as good as a 900 now.

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#37 dandywarhol

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Posted 18 December 2006 - 09:30 am

QUOTE(Minty Hippo @ Sun 17th Dec 2006, 10:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Think about all the oil you won't be buying... and all the smoke I won't be inhaling...

Seriously though, good job, I am well impressed. You deserve some sort of carpe award.

It will be nearly as good as a 900 now.

Yep........just a lighter alloy frame, lighter wheels, stronger alloy swingarm, lightweight stiffer axles, another cog in the box, efficient fuel injection and some bland bodywork to go...............

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#38 TonyDevil

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Posted 18 December 2006 - 02:13 pm

might have been easier and cheaper to buy a 900 and put the mk2 fairing and panels on it.......

*ducks and runs for cover*

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Black 1991 850 MK1, 160k+ miles(ish, best guess really, gave up trying to keep count after 3rd set of clocks and 3rd engine), PilotRoad2 tyres, custom stubby exhaust system, bluespot calipers & goodridge braided hoses with dunlopads, maxton forks, Ohlins shock, kedo handguards, stainless TDM grill, Scottoiler with lubetube & dual nozzle thingy, Givi Wingrack2 with E45 & 2xE36s, renntec crash bars, Autocom with blueteeth & PMR radio, TomTom Rider2, Optimate IIIsp, Bagster tank cover, anti-dazzle coating
to fit : led spotlights, heated grips, new braided lines and rear caliper that actually has bleed nipples
Silver-ish 2003 900, 70k miles, PilotRoad3 front tyre (new@65k) & PR2 rear(new at 69k), Renthal 755 bars with KTM handguards, oxford unheated grips, power commander 3usb, scorpion titanium exhausts, standard screen with vario winglet thingy, stainless grill, oem centre stand, bagster tank cover, givi monokey topplate mounted on grabrail with V46 topbox, Givi PL pannier rails with E21s, crash bungs, mirror extender thingys, Halfords Advanced Laser Blue brillance bulbs, 21w led spotlights, touring scottoiler with leehenty dual nozzle, Autocom with blueteeth & PMR radio, TomTom Rider3 Urban, winter style anti-dazzle coating
to fit : led brake light strip, replacement heated grips
current rides : TDM850 3vd/mk1=tourer&scratcher, TRX850=weekend twisty toy, 2003 TDM900=commuter, 2005 TDM900=unmolested. Gone but not forgotton : XTZ750=overland touring toy, GS500e, GS125
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#39 cyco900

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Posted 18 December 2006 - 03:04 pm

Yep... nearly put Mk1 body on my 900, would have been easier and as it has a J plate would have confused loadsa folk.

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