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[ProudViking]

The older master and then the young pretenders coming up and through all this was going to happen anyway I reckon.

 

Whatever anyone thinks or who they prefer or respect as a rider [ and you have to respect Rossi whatever ] it's made for some aggressive riding and makes F1 look like a trolley dash in ASDA......

 

'No Supermarkets,trolleys, or Formula 1 drivers were hurt in the making of this statement'

You've never been in a trolley dash at ASDA have you Blue!!!

[Blue]

You've never been in a trolley dash at ASDA have you Blue!!!

No..........But I was in one in Aldi on Sunday!!! - should've worn me bike gear!

[Studley Ramrod]

Just an observation if I may, doesn't the title of this topic include the words 'No spoiler'? Should we change it to 'warning, spoiler!'? Just a thought.

Anyway, just seen it. Bloody hell. From the slow-mo it looks like Rossi was trying to push MM off when MM leant on him, but MM only leant on him because Rossi was intentionally forcing him off the track...

So Rossi was pissed off, and 'wrong', but I am not sure he meant to do that.

Oh well. Is it over now?

 

A bit late now but I've edited the title.   I think it's safe to assume that any MotoGP topic, regardless of No Spoiler heading, will inevitably contain spoiler-ization, that's why I avoided this topic until today.

 

A great race, Pedrosa was on top form.   Good to see Rossi and Marquez exchanging love taps.  

[ramo]

was great racing, but something had to happen,

 

they could not keep that up,

 

ffs that speed, that close, look at around 1min

 

 

[TYREDNGRUMPEE]

Anyway, just seen it. Bloody hell. From the slow-mo it looks like Rossi was trying to push MM off when MM leant on him, but MM only leant on him because Rossi was intentionally forcing him off the track...

So Rossi was pissed off, and 'wrong', but I am not sure he meant to do that.

 

Didn't see that video. What one are you watching?

 

There was a lot took place before that Clip, Marquez leaned on Rossi a lot before he was shown where to get off !!!!!!

 

That's Marquez's constant MO (and the reason why I don't rate him). We could do without this at the end of the season.

Sort of places Rossi's earlier remarks into context and gives them weight. I'd be listening to him if he had something to say.

Oh and BTW,

the petition has passed the 300,000 target and is on its way to 500,000.

[PICARD]

Since watching the race replays, I've been sure MM was leanining on Rossi, and even accelerates into the contact. After watching the incidents, condensed on that vid, MM defo asked for it!!
Just gotta hope for rain, JL breakdown or a get off at Valencia.

[Kelpie]

MM is a tube. Go Rossi!

[NickIAM]

An impression of Moses parting the waters would be nice, if the other riders were to let Rossi passed next time. But that may be a wish too far.

[NickIAM]

"Didn't see that video. What one are you watching?"

That's how it looked to me at the time, I think it was on the series of clips above, section 10 (near the end). Easier to see on bigger screen but I've seen so many now.

Edited by NickIAM, 27 October 2015 - 06:01 pm.

[TKH]

allegedly you can watch BTSprot via crickfree.tv or through videobull.to wot is, I've heard, very good quality .......

 

Crickfree is a browser addin that links you to various subscription or US only feeds (can be bipassed via VPN) and videobull wants credit card details.... for a free service......? That is on my laptop,

[Favs]

 

Crickfree is a browser addin that links you to various subscription or US only feeds (can be bipassed via VPN) and videobull wants credit card details.... for a free service......?

 

For videobull type motogp in the search box .............oh here then,  some incomplete instructions

 

 

HTH

 

BTW Via Cricfree - some folks not far from this laptop  watch MGP on BT SportHD and Sky F1 not me of course..

 

Edited by Favs, 28 October 2015 - 07:36 pm.

[tediumwannabe]

Hard to believe so many peeps defending Rossi. Hero worship has a lot to answer for.

He rode over aggressively, deliberately slowing down mid corner to kick out and remonstrate with Marquez who was racing from the start. He took Marquez out plain and simple.

He was an absolute disgrace and should have been black flagged and banned for the last race.

[muddy]

Hard to believe so many peeps defending Rossi. Hero worship has a lot to answer for.

He rode over aggressively, deliberately slowing down mid corner to kick out and remonstrate with Marquez who was racing from the start. He took Marquez out plain and simple.

He was an absolute disgrace and should have been black flagged and banned for the last race.

There are two sides to the story and you've taken one. Many riders that day have stated they believe Marquez was hindering and provoking rather than racing and could've left Rossi behind to race Lorenzo. I'm inclined to agree with those who were there on the day racing than armchair critics.

[NickIAM]

I confess, while I was shocked, a bit of me was pleased he taught 'the young upstart' a lesson; while at the same time I thought he had effectively shot himself in the foot and it was now all over. (He had been goaded into losing control.)

If he wins, it will be truly amazing. But I fear it's like cheering for Eddie The Eagle Edwards when he's got a broken leg.

[tediumwannabe]

Armchair critic Muddy?? I know what I saw, you didn't actually have to be there. Take a look at Lorenzo's comments, amongst many racers' comments, and the commentators who were gobsmacked and couldn't believe what they saw.

Marquez hindering and provoking at up to 200mph? Yeah right.

I would rather believe my own eyes than blindly follow the herd.

ANY other rider would have been banned on the spot.

[muddy]

Armchair critic Muddy?? I know what I saw, you didn't actually have to be there. Take a look at Lorenzo's comments, amongst many racers' comments, and the commentators who were gobsmacked and couldn't believe what they saw.

Marquez hindering and provoking at up to 200mph? Yeah right.

I would rather believe my own eyes than blindly follow the herd.

ANY other rider would have been banned on the spot.

He had the pace to get away from Rossi and ride for maximum points. He didn't need the points, as he's not in contention, so instead he chose to continue to dice with Rossi and hinder his championship hopes. I'm not saying Rossi is without blame, he showed a lack of judgement in his comments prior to the race, but I'm a two sides to the story sort of bloke and can see how in his frustration he at being caught up in a cat and mouse with Marquez at this stage of the season he did what he did. And what you see with your own eyes is still an interpretation, not the facts, btw.

[TYREDNGRUMPEE]

Marquez has proven time and again, that he rides a battering ram and not a motorcycle.

 

There is a common thread in all the incidents that have occurred over the past two Motogp seasons involving Marquez.

 

Marquez / too hot / from behind / closing distance / contact / squeezing / forcing issue.

 

He was so close in one incident, that when Rossi (in front) changed direction, turning away from Marquez, the rising RHS of Rossi's swing arm engaged with M's LHS fork leg and lifted M's front wheel off the track. How I laughed. 

 

My point being that over the past two seasons, if there was a stats table for motogp as there is for baseball, it would be clear that Marquez and his tactics are at the root of this situation. The guy deserves a health warning. I miss Marco Simoncelli, who wasn't half as bad as Marquez is now.

 

There was no kick BTW.

 

Sign the petition (527,000 only 473,000 more for 1,000,000)!

Edited by TYREDNGRUMPEE, 29 October 2015 - 06:49 pm.

[tediumwannabe]

Rossi / Gibernau? Rossi / Pedrosa? All the riders have history, and Marquez is only 23?

I believe there was a kick. Check the footage.

Nah, Rossi is a has-been, and now a sore loser, GO LORENZO (a better rider than Rossi ever was}. Don't forget, Rossi didn't like to race, he got to the front and usually stayed there, plus Rossi couldn't ride the Ducati, unlike Stoner (the relief for Rossi when Casey "retired" lol).

[dandywarhol]

Rossi was at fault for pushing Marquez out to the edge, there's no doubt. But - Marquez was completely out of order by getting personally involved, only with Rossi, on the track. There's an unwritten understanding among racers that you don't get involved in another's championship in the latter stages.

 

I initially thought Rossi stamped on the Honda's rear brake and was horrified by the action but it was after playing and replaying the recording that I'm totally convinced , especially from the helicopter shot, that Rossi did not kick Marquez off. Marquez was pushed out to the dirty side of the track, was on limited adhesion and literally rode into Rossi's knee with his helmet and lost control. By the time Rossi's foot was off the peg from the reaction of the head/knee butt, Marquez was already heading to the floor.

 

As for Rossi's bizarre press conference on Thursday, I think he was mind gaming Marquez that he wasn't fast enough to always win and hoped that he would piss off to the front at the remaining races and let Lorenzo and Rossi to fight out the Championship - it backfired badly!

[TYREDNGRUMPEE]

I believe there was a kick. Check the footage.

Nah, Rossi is a has-been, and now a sore loser, 

 

Believe. Rossi may be a has-been, it comes to them all, but is doing quite well, proving them wrong at the top of the motoGP table.