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#41 dablik

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Posted 27 April 2010 - 09:35 am

Well i got duty over that weekend starting Friday night so will try and swap a night but if that's a no-go will show up for a while anyway.
Charlie what would you like as a contribution, shall i bring extra coffee, tea , milk and sugar or just cake eating.gif cake eating.gif

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Posted 27 April 2010 - 11:57 am

QUOTE(The Thigh @ Tue 27th Apr 2010, 09:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Got a Haynes Manual here. tup.gif


Charlie, I would not mind popping over, not much to do on mine, but I can lend a hand.

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Posted 27 April 2010 - 05:45 pm

QUOTE(The Thigh @ Tue 27th Apr 2010, 05:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
OK guys,

Fettling Day: Saturday 22nd May

Place: L36 5XE

Itinerary: 9.30am or there abouts

Bay 1. Replace Emulsion Tubes Service & Balance Carbs followed by fault finding session, where did we go wrong session and finally an identify the left over part quiz. Tutor; Professor Studley Ramrod.

Bay 2. Head Gasket replacement: Tutor; Doctor Erny 'The fastest gasket changer in the Northwest'

Bay 3. Oil Pressure Switch Installation: Tutor and Star Turner; Master Engineer BODGER with Hons. The one and only Leehenty, supported by dablik on
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Refreshments: cake eating.gif (contributions welcome) accompanied by tea and coffee from the kitchen.

Tools: Have a think guys about what you need i.e. specialist screwdrivers or fabricated dodah's for reaching those hard to get places and bring them along. I have torque wrenches 5nm - 25nm and 20nm - 110nm, impact driver, big hammer and an adequate stock of super glue, araldite and liquid metal for those little mistakes! sorry.gif

Anyone got vac gauges?

Oh and I'm a trained first aider, specialised in the application of elastoplast to scuffed knuckles! rotflmmfao.gif

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Any questions, requests just PM me.

Lee, I'll take one of your switches and associated bits.


Ok ,
I got Morgan vacuum gauges (two sets) and a special 90 degree gear box screwdriver for setting carby things. I will put a switch aside for you.

Plus special 90 degree socket set as well. Will try to bring all specialist things I can think of.

I have another batch of switches made by then, there will be six units available which I am reserving for the fettle day. (£13:50 plus a free bag of 25 10mm copper banjo washers, a one time never to be repeated offer) laugh.gif

I might have the big red led thing for the dash sorted by then too.

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Edited by leehenty, 27 April 2010 - 05:52 pm.


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Posted 27 April 2010 - 06:46 pm

Dablik cake eating.gif is fine!

Ivan, just turn up and video whats going on, mayhem and all!

Lee don't forget my 10% commission. rolleyes.gif Do we need to get oil switch lights?

The more the merrier, so they say! blink.gif
Obviously not a Carpedium philosopher!

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Edited by The Thigh, 27 April 2010 - 06:50 pm.

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Posted 27 April 2010 - 09:00 pm

QUOTE(The Thigh @ Tue 27th Apr 2010, 07:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Dablik cake eating.gif is fine!

Ivan, just turn up and video whats going on, mayhem and all!

Lee don't forget my 10% commission. rolleyes.gif Do we need to get oil switch lights?

The more the merrier, so they say! blink.gif
Obviously not a Carpedium philosopher!

Charlie


Um, I will have an LED solution for this by the time the fettle comes along. I can do the 12 volt 10mm dia hyper bright red led in a 13.3mm chrome bezel for 99p on top. I don't have them yet (end of the week) but I will keep you informed on progress.

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This will mean the spare hole will have to be reamed out slightly up from 10mm, but I have a special tool for that. It might be so bright it blinds you, but you WILL know you have a problem. Does anyone know the diameter of the terminal on the back of the temp gauge where the live feed will come from ? If you do, let me know and I can bring lots of the right sized end bits plus a proper tool to put them on with.

I have a further 5 switches coming from France, but they may not be here in time enough, for me to modify them in time for the fettle.
For those who are not lucky enough to get a Citroen modified one, there will be some of the brass adapters for the VW sensors available. (five)
UPDATE:

I have one only of these VW sensors, but this is what it looks like.




This switches at a higher pressure than the citroen ones, 1.5 bar 17 -23 psi, not 0.5 bar which is 8 psi.

Roughly speaking you need about 10psi of oil pressure per 1000rpm.

e.g. 7000rpm requires 70psi oil pressure

Allowing the oil pressure warning light to illuminate at a higher pressure is an economical & effective way to protect engines from failure.

I need a bike to try it on and see what the pressure is at hot idle.


However, I only have ten of the 10MM LED solutions coming, So the maximum bikes is ten on the day no matter what.
BigRed has a time constraint on the day, so he will have priority.

Lee H

Edited by leehenty, 28 April 2010 - 08:31 pm.


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Posted 27 April 2010 - 09:18 pm

QUOTE(The Thigh @ Tue 27th Apr 2010, 05:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
OK guys,

Fettling Day: Saturday 22nd May

Place: L36 5XE

Itinerary: 9.30am or there abouts


If I can make it I will, armed with a Haynes and a selection of tools.


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Posted 27 April 2010 - 09:20 pm

QUOTE(Studley Ramrod @ Tue 27th Apr 2010, 07:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Do you mean the rocker/valve cover gasket or the head gasket Erny ?

Yeah that's the one. Rubber isn't it?
I gotta order it tomorrow. I'm seeping oil from one of the rocker cover bolts and from the hole in the side of the engine. What is that hole for anyway?
And does that mean I'm looking at the head gasket as well?
I've got basic tools, a few sockets and extention bars. A manual. Some SA tape and tie clips, assorted.

Studley, I'll meet you and ride down with you if you fancy

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 08:24 am

QUOTE(erny @ Tue 27th Apr 2010, 10:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah that's the one. Rubber isn't it?
I gotta order it tomorrow. I'm seeping oil from one of the rocker cover bolts and from the hole in the side of the engine. What is that hole for anyway?
And does that mean I'm looking at the head gasket as well?
I've got basic tools, a few sockets and extention bars. A manual. Some SA tape and tie clips, assorted.

Studley, I'll meet you and ride down with you if you fancy


The hole is for draining water away from the spark plugs. Hard to know where the oil is leaking from but all should be revealed on fettle day smile.gif

EDIT: My planned route is M1, onto Woodhead Pass, then M67 onto the M60, then M62. Where d'ya wanna meet up Erny ?

Edited by Studley Ramrod, 28 April 2010 - 12:58 pm.

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 01:11 pm

QUOTE(leehenty @ Tue 27th Apr 2010, 10:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Um, I will have an LED solution for this by the time the fettle comes along. I can do the 12 volt 10mm dia hyper bright red led in a 13.2mm chrome bezel for £1.50 on top. I don't have them yet (end of the week) but I will keep you informed on progress.

This will mean the spare hole will have to be reamed out slightly up from 10mm, but I have a special tool for that. It might be so bright it blinds you, but you WILL know you have a problem. Does anyone know the diameter of the terminal on the back of the temp gauge where the live feed will come from ? If you do, let me know and I can bring lots of the right sized end bits plus a proper tool to put them on with.

I have a further 5 switches coming from France, but they may not be here in time enough, for me to modify them in time for the fettle.
For those whole are not lucky enough to get a Citroen modified one, there will be some of the brass adapters for the VW sensors available. (five)

However, I only have ten of the 10MM LED solutions coming, So the maximum bikes is ten on the day no matter what.
BigRed has a time constraint on the day, so he will have priority.

Lee H


Lookin at the Haynes, it's a terminal screw, the wires have eyelets on the end. I'm guessing 2-3mm screw thread diameter/eyelet i/d. Might have my cowling off before long so will measure 'em then.

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 04:17 pm

QUOTE(leehenty @ Tue 27th Apr 2010, 10:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
However, I only have ten of the 10MM LED solutions coming, So the maximum bikes is ten on the day no matter what.
BigRed has a time constraint on the day, so he will have priority.

Lee H


Hi Lee,

Can you put me down for an oil switch and LED for the fettle day. Was just going to watch and learn but am now paranoid that my engine is going to blow up rolleyes.gif

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 05:15 pm

Greetings Felllow Fettlers,

Anyone got a compression tester they could bring along as I'm curious to know whether she's producing enough whumph! I can then
plan accordingly for the next stage of her refurbishment.

Charlie
Currently - 2008 Red 900 ABS - 19k - 12v Socket - K & N Air Filter - Power Commander III - Mirror Extenders - Hepco & Becker Junior Panniers and Top Box - Fuel Exhausts - Pilot Road 2 Tyres.

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 05:32 pm

QUOTE(wilsy @ Wed 28th Apr 2010, 05:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi Lee,

Can you put me down for an oil switch and LED for the fettle day. Was just going to watch and learn but am now paranoid that my engine is going to blow up rolleyes.gif


Your name is on a bag of bits., Kicked the frogs up the bum today to get them switches over here pronto. ranting.gif


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Posted 28 April 2010 - 06:31 pm

QUOTE(leehenty @ Wed 28th Apr 2010, 06:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Your name is on a bag of bits., Kicked the frogs up the bum today to get them switches over here pronto. ranting.gif


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Posted 28 April 2010 - 08:34 pm

[quote name='The Thigh' date='Tue 27th Apr 2010, 07:46 PM' post='160499'

Lee don't forget my 10% commission. rolleyes.gif Do we need to get oil switch lights?

Charlie
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Charlie, you get a free LED oil light for kindly hosting the fettle.

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 09:17 pm

QUOTE(The Thigh @ Wed 28th Apr 2010, 06:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Greetings Felllow Fettlers,

Anyone got a compression tester they could bring along as I'm curious to know whether she's producing enough whumph! I can then
plan accordingly for the next stage of her refurbishment.

Charlie



I never leave home without one smile.gif

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Posted 30 April 2010 - 06:16 am

Any space for a little un?????

If I manage to get the bike back together
I wouldnt mind come up and sticking my ore in
at some point.

Keep me posted tup.gif


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Posted 30 April 2010 - 07:28 am

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Any space for a little un?????


Edd

Room not a problem, get on your bike and get up here!

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Posted 04 May 2010 - 12:55 am

[quote name='leehenty' date='Wed 28th Apr 2010, 09:34 PM' post='160624']
[quote name='The Thigh' date='Tue 27th Apr 2010, 07:46 PM' post='160499'

Lee don't forget my 10% commission. rolleyes.gif Do we need to get oil switch lights?

Charlie

I will have five of the inside dash lights available on the day, or you can go with the outside the dash on the surround led solution. Have the choice on the day.

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Posted 04 May 2010 - 10:34 am

lee i will be off work for a while now, trying to sort the zzr out, getting the car to the garage ( fuel issue) but do you need me to still look what size connections you will need behind the dash or will you just bring a selection on the day, if there is anything i can acquire to help on the day please let me know.

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Bigred mk1 R1 Calipers- Braided lines- Givi wing rack-Crash bungs- Hi vis bullets-PR2's- and a hoot to ride.

Quad 900 Silver Laser duo tech pipes-Scott oiler-Engine crash bars- Radiator mounted see me ring LED's-Datatool system 3 alarm -Centre stand- Extender fender-Renthal bars-Handle bar risers-Mirror extenders-BMW GS Handgaurds-Acumen uprated horn & Nautilus-Stainless steel Radiator guard-Givi wing rack-OEM screen-Yammy touring screen-MRA Vario-MRA Double bubble cut down for fast as fk riding-Tiger screen-Tank protector-Stomp grip panels-Optimate lead   Gone to Heaven  :sorry: 

 

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Posted 04 May 2010 - 12:48 pm

QUOTE(dablik @ Tue 4th May 2010, 11:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
lee i will be off work for a while now, trying to sort the zzr out, getting the car to the garage ( fuel issue) but do you need me to still look what size connections you will need behind the dash or will you just bring a selection on the day, if there is anything i can acquire to help on the day please let me know.

Cliff


Hammerman,
Very kindly let me poke about at his bike in bits, measure this and that when I popped up to see him and deliver him some bits. I will bring a selection of all parts required on the day. The terminals are 4mm so I got a bag of 100, which incidentally is the size of the small screw on the sensor.

The TDM 900 guys asked, I delivered, but not as easy as an 850 which are much easier to work on.

On the day bring a small selection of cable ties and a note book for those bits you wanted to know. Hammerman did a fantastic guide on this job.

Lee H

Edited by leehenty, 04 May 2010 - 12:50 pm.



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