Sat on it too. Horrible tiny lcd clock panel and funny shaped.
Didn't like it at all. Small mirrors. Why someone thinks two zipped semi hard shell's make a decent pannier is beyond me.
Yamaha are not the only ones doing this.
Not waterproof or anything proof.
These two wheels at the front scooters are taking off. Lots of marques doing them now.
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Posted 26 November 2014 - 09:54 pm
2002 900 silver,oil pressure switch with brass 90 degree conversion, RG fork protectors. Wilburs custom made rear Shock with remote hydraulic preload and RG shocktube, Wilburs front springs. Scotoiler with a custom made swing arm delivery unit. Silicone radiator hoses.BMW 1150 handguards with Touratech extensions, Carbon Fibre yoke cover and fender extenda, MRA flip screen, Yamaha Engine bars, SW Motech Centre Stand, Kappa wingrack three box Luggage with E21's as option from the K960 boxes, Zumo 660 satnav on Touratech mount, Led Voltage monitor, Baglux tank cover, Clear LED Rear light, Aux LED brake light, Stainless rear axle nut, stainless chain adjusters, stainless wheel spacers front and rear, Probolt Polished Stainless Flanged Hex engine screws, Polished stainless fairing screws, stainless disc bolts. Titanium brake pins front, Probolt Titanium Flanged Hex Front Caliper Bolts & Rear caliper slide pins.<p>Top Sellerie double gel pad seat. Carbon Fibre inner dash and side infill panels. Anodised black alloy swingarm pivot bolt covers and footpegs, Nano II Gear indicator.
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Posted 26 November 2014 - 10:17 pm
KTM 1050 instead?
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Posted 26 November 2014 - 11:11 pm
These two wheels at the front scooters are taking off. Lots of marques doing them now.
with the price of new bikes going up and wages down, only old farts can afford to buy new motorcycles today, soon they'll have training wheel and adult diapers storage compartments too 
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Posted 26 November 2014 - 11:30 pm
Seat too hard?
It was as it happens, but the rest of it wasn't good either
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Posted 26 November 2014 - 11:39 pm
Regarding price, a friend said he went to the show and was told it would be under 7 grand.
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Posted 27 November 2014 - 01:09 am
That's what I was told (iirc around 6.7 to 7?) I remember thinking that's around what I paid for my 900 with all the toys and at that price I'd still rather have my 900.
A case of the sum being less than the parts.
lots of cool kit, but the result is still a bit of a dead parrot.
imho
A case of the sum being less than the parts.
lots of cool kit, but the result is still a bit of a dead parrot.
imho
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Posted 27 November 2014 - 07:07 am
Mind you, loads of people were slagging off the Tedium ...and still do. And that wasn't the prettiest bike either.
The MT09 was a hoot to ride, and that's all this is really...
The MT09 was a hoot to ride, and that's all this is really...
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Posted 27 November 2014 - 08:45 am
KTM 1050 instead?
But then you're back to 4000 mile service, 35mpg and 56 fastener oil change no ? 
I've noticed no-one is calling for the site to include the the Tracer now. 
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Posted 27 November 2014 - 08:56 am
1. KTM 1050 is better mpg than 1190, so allegedly. 45-50mpg. Service intervals 10000 miles. (Both from memory...I stand to be corrected)
2. I asked whether Tracer could be incorporated here on Carpe.
I reckon the Tracer could be a good budget bike. Someone will love it.
The issue with ktm990 was the dual fuel tanks that hang either side of the engine. Great for low centre of gravity, but it did mean one has to take one off to get to the oil screen.
To do that the crash bars had to come off. Hence it was such a ball-ache.
2. I asked whether Tracer could be incorporated here on Carpe.
I reckon the Tracer could be a good budget bike. Someone will love it.
The issue with ktm990 was the dual fuel tanks that hang either side of the engine. Great for low centre of gravity, but it did mean one has to take one off to get to the oil screen.
To do that the crash bars had to come off. Hence it was such a ball-ache.
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Posted 27 November 2014 - 08:58 am
Don't ya fancy a Tigger 800 ET ? Seems to be a great bike from what owners have said.
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Posted 27 November 2014 - 02:30 pm
Maybe.
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Posted 27 November 2014 - 03:58 pm
Tiger still looks a mess design-wise, IMHO. All kind of dis-integrated, and unlovely parts on view.
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Posted 27 November 2014 - 07:25 pm
Tiger still looks a mess design-wise, IMHO. All kind of dis-integrated, and unlovely parts on view.
I know beauty's in the eye, etc., but for me you're describing the Tracer perfectly, not the XC, which is a refined, beauty in comparison. But then I've always thought the 9er is fugly, while many here think it fine looking.
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Posted 27 November 2014 - 10:22 pm
Sat on the Tracer today and couldn't find anything wrong with either the comfort or the riding position. I liked the dash, overall looks which put Multistrada etc to shame, 17" front wheel which means all rubber will now be available, 115 bhp which from experience of the MT-09 is more than adequate, centre stand, hand guards, traction control, ABS, adjustable seat, bars and screen and allegedly excellent headlights. I've owned 2 TDM900s and loved them but in my opinion the Tracer addresses all the TDMs shortfalls and more besides. All for £8,149 which in my view is a steal. As a result if I still have the same view after a test ride then a nice red one will appear in my garage in 2015.
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Posted 27 November 2014 - 10:28 pm
Ooh. Handbags at dawn. I'm reserving judgement.
It might be wart like, and grow on me.
It might be wart like, and grow on me.
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Posted 27 November 2014 - 11:47 pm
Quote Muddy: I know beauty's in the eye, etc., but for me you're describing the Tracer perfectly, not the XC, which is a refined, beauty in comparison. But then I've always thought the 9er is fugly, while many here think it fine looking.
I stick by my Tiger description. The Tracer is either just photogenic or it really is a great looking bike. I look forward to seeing one. I am firmly in the 'love the look of the TDM' camp - beautifully proportioned, if not actually beautiful; then I discovered its engine spec, and found one to buy. Much missed, it is. Anyway, it's best we have a variety of opinions, innit. Are you going for a Tigger, Muddy? (there's a test in MCN this week)
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Posted 28 November 2014 - 12:27 am
Quote Muddy: I know beauty's in the eye, etc., but for me you're describing the Tracer perfectly, not the XC, which is a refined, beauty in comparison. But then I've always thought the 9er is fugly, while many here think it fine looking.
I stick by my Tiger description. The Tracer is either just photogenic or it really is a great looking bike. I look forward to seeing one. I am firmly in the 'love the look of the TDM' camp - beautifully proportioned, if not actually beautiful; then I discovered its engine spec, and found one to buy. Much missed, it is. Anyway, it's best we have a variety of opinions, innit. Are you going for a Tigger, Muddy? (there's a test in MCN this week)
No, I won't be buying a Triumph. I've found that pairing up with a looker brings with it a lot of strife. In the end I prefer the plain, reliable types, which is why I've had the TDM since 2005 
Me and me mate both thought the Honda CB500X was potentially a decent buy for the future. I liked the lines and sitting on it everything seemed to fit well--I could flat foot it better than the TDM and there was less of a stretch to the bars and it's light enough not to pull a muscle if it starts to drop. Very economical too by all accounts. A decent, practical bike for the money. I do hope that Yamaha do something else with the MT07, that might tempt me.
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Posted 28 November 2014 - 04:07 pm
Ooh. Handbags at dawn. I'm reserving judgement.
It might be wart like, and grow on me.
No handbags at all EeeTea, everyone has their own opinions and I understand and respect where Muddy and Leehenty are coming from. I agree, it's not a TDM, but it is from the same stable and, for me at least, it will serve a similar purpose. Others might want to go the MT-07 route and I wouldn't mind betting that a version similar to the Tracey will appear by the end of 2015 and that will be truer to the TDM DNA than Tracey.
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Posted 28 November 2014 - 08:59 pm
No handbags at all EeeTea, everyone has their own opinions and I understand and respect where Muddy and Leehenty are coming from. I agree, it's not a TDM, but it is from the same stable and, for me at least, it will serve a similar purpose. Others might want to go the MT-07 route and I wouldn't mind betting that a version similar to the Tracey will appear by the end of 2015 and that will be truer to the TDM DNA than Tracey.
I'd be interested to know what they are ding with that 900 twin engine that was on display at a show early last year.
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Posted 28 November 2014 - 09:01 pm
I'd be interested to know what they are ding with that 900 twin engine that was on display at a show early last year.
Aha, forgot all about that. Yes. It'll be mighty if the MT07 is anything to go by.
Edited by muddy, 28 November 2014 - 09:02 pm.
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