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[EeeTea]

Do tell, I wasn't paying attention last year... do you think there will be a 900 twin then?

[TDMick]

Well there's an engine, what they're going to stick it in is anyone's guess, but it was on display at a motorcycle show (Rome. Swiss?) last year and hasn't been seen since.

[Rallyist]

think that may be for a Quad

[TinTin]

Well well the Tracer is officially £8149 according to Yamaha's website which truly throws the cat among the pigeons or rather the Versys's. The 650 Versys is £6749 and the 1000 is £9749 so its £1400 dearer than the 650 & £1600  cheaper than the 1000.

So with the ABS, traction control & centre stand I think its going to be unbeatable.

Pity Carlisle is probably the only city in the civilised world without a Yamaha dealer.

I'm getting fed up with the 3hr round trip to the Yam shop & back.

Still there is always the interweb I suppose

[muddy]

Well well the Tracer is officially £8149 according to Yamaha's website which truly throws the cat among the pigeons or rather the Versys's. The 650 Versys is £6749 and the 1000 is £9749 so its £1400 dearer than the 650 & £1600  cheaper than the 1000.

The only competition I can see specs wise is the Triumph Tiger XC £8799 and the BMW F800 GS £8,800 , so on paper it's very competitive, but let's wait for the reviews. I prefer both the Triumph and the BMW to it in looks, so for me the performance and economy is going to have to be outstanding. It would make more sense to use the MT-07 engine as competition for the 650 Versys and Suzuki DL650 I would've though.

[TDMTAM]

Well well the Tracer is officially £8149 according to Yamaha's website which truly throws the cat among the pigeons or rather the Versys's. The 650 Versys is £6749 and the 1000 is £9749 so its £1400 dearer than the 650 & £1600  cheaper than the 1000.
So with the ABS, traction control & centre stand I think its going to be unbeatable.
Pity Carlisle is probably the only city in the civilised world without a Yamaha dealer.
I'm getting fed up with the 3hr round trip to the Yam shop & back.
Still there is always the interweb I suppose

Same here the local Glasgow dealer stopped doing Yamaha nearest to me is now Falkirk or Edinbugger.

Edited by TDMTAM, 30 November 2014 - 12:02 pm.

[Geordie Guy]

I had a very long look at the NEC and it is lacking in a lot of areas, quality of build, lack of space under the seat, pannier options ( none), its all well short of what the TDM has.

 

I am glad it is not the replacement.

 

Overall there does not seem to be anything apart from the 1000 versys at the whole show that comes close to having what I currently have in the garage.

 

Very disappointed but relieved ..........

[EeeTea]

I've seen photos of both soft and hard panniers for it. Do you mean there were none at the show?

I'm not convinced that many bikes have space under the seat these days? Was no space at all?

Build quality...well it's a cheap budget bike. I think the thing for me will be reliability and running costs

[celticbiker]

Somewhere along the way I read that it will only be returning about 45mpg. If that's true then it'll be no good for me.

[Manx1200]

Think the 45mpg was in US gallons, which are smaller than ours.

US gallon is equal to approximately 3.785 litres, Imperial gallon equals 4.54 litres.

[michaeldouglas72]

I took the plunge and bought a new bike to help preserve my MK1 TDM and, after riding almost everything going, it was a major surprise to find the Honda Crossrunner as the best bike of the bunch. The Tiger in road form or XC is hotch potch of parts happed together, a few wintery miles and the thing would be impossible to clean. The gearing is short and I just couldn't get on with it, it was a relief to get back on my 21 year old TDM!

 

The Honda (the one with the lower pegs and grippy seat) is a great machine. Excellent engine and superb build quality, only things that were a bit tricky were the front springs (sorted with Hyperpro), dash is a bit tricky to see in sunlight (not a problem in Scotland) and the list price. The price issue is easily sorted by picking up a pre-reg with zero miles with £3.5k of the price!

 

The Crossrunner doesn't look great on paper but looks great in the flesh. I can't recommend the bike enough as a replacement or stablemate to the TDM.

[Limbo]

First  MT-09 Tracer Test:

 

http://www.visordown...view/26005.html

 

next:

 

http://www.bennetts....w/#.VIm5mLd0wei

 

Limbo

 

 

[Quartermaster]

First  MT-09 Tracer Test:

 

http://www.visordown...view/26005.html

 

next:

 

http://www.bennetts....w/#.VIm5mLd0wei

 

Limbo

 

 

 

Told you so! This is a good bike by any standards IMHO and the two tests appear to confirm this. One will be in my garage in 2015 for sure.

[muddy]

It'll probably sell really well at that price. Some TDM traits though, great brakes [x] crap, stuttering fuelling [x]. 

[Studley Ramrod]

Seems they're big on stating it's pillion capabilities but none of the reviewers actually carried one.

 

I see the snatchy throttle gets a mention though, a replacement for the TDM900 eh.

 

I'd like to see a review with pillion and a fully loaded bike, as in, review a touring bike whilst actually touring.  Stating that he could easily do 160 miles a day doesn't really convince me of it's comfort.

 

That said, it seems to be an enjoyable ride, does 53.8mpg and it's well equipped with all the latest gizmo's and some think it's good value at £8100.

[dandywarhol]

 

 

That said, it seems to be an enjoyable ride, does 53.8mpg and it's well equipped with all the latest gizmo's and some think it's good value at £8100.

 

And less than £6700 in the USA - bastards!

[mh1848]

Model tested: Yamaha MT-09 Tracer

Price: £8,149 on-the-road

Engine: 847cc triple

Power: 115hp @ 8,000rpm

Torque: 64.5lbft @ 7,000rpm

Dry weight: 190kg (210kg wet)

Fuel economy: 53.6mpg (claimed)

Tank capacity: 18 litres

Seat height: 845mm-860mm

Availability: Mid-February 2015

Colours: Matt grey, red, silver/blue

Edited by mh1848, 11 December 2014 - 06:21 pm.

[Robodene]

Interesting that it has a lowering kit apart from the seat adjustment (if I read that right) for us short of leg.

[celticbiker]

I'm afraid at £8100 I'll not be rushing to buy one. I was offered a brand new xt 1200 for 8 not long ago.
Can easily do 160 miles, good grief, it annoys me when I have to stop at 200 miles to fill up.
Bunch of pansies.

[harvey krumpet]

TBH if the same level of thought & design has gone in to this as the 850's it will be a stoater. Back in the day the TDM's were top dollar and fettling one now shows why. Attention to detail and some ahead of the time design features really stand out. The 270o crank is effectively a cross plane crank motor, so I'm told. How cool.

Any hoo. I do like that Tracer but I don't think it would like gravel. Lighter & 115 hp sauces? Oh, yes. Pass the hankies.