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[Geordie Guy]

Good one TDM2340,

what did you use for the fixings and the spacers.

Cheers, Ivan

[TDM2340]

Thanks GG,

I looked about for ages wondering what to use for spacers. I also liked a previous idea posted to make the outside screen progressively steeper than the inside screen. In the end, while walking around inside Bunnings (hardware superstore kinda place) I settled on some plastic watering system inserts !!

They are black, hard, strong to take water pressure, and easily able to be cut/ground to the right length. With a little bit of experimenting I was able to make up the progressively longer spacers starting at about 1cm and the longest about 2.5cms. The bolts are 5mm pan shaped phillips that were chrome (buffed then painted flat black) and I used lock nuts to avoid any surprises. I can still easily see over the screen and the whole thing comes off in 5 mintues with just the 7 bolts, while the standard screen underneath only has 7 small holes so it's not really spoilt.

Anyhoo, it seems to work for me and I'm looking forward to a long ride next week to see how it handles a trip. The test run was only short with no ear plugs and it really was comfortable at a little over our 100kph limit, compared to previously it was almost deafening. I made lots of friends on the test ride checking with my hands on the wind levels - so many cars heading in the other direct waved back and no doubt wondered who they know that rides a black bike

Tony

[DevoTDM]

It's the windy season here and my helmets can be noisy at 60km/h and at highway speeds, I thought I was I was going to have to start wearing earbuds for short trips around town and to work. Tried removing the stock screen but no real improvement.

Yesterday I fitted a Tigerscreen made by TDMtoraneko. After fitting the screen I rode off with my visor open (much nicer than closed in this hot weather) and there was no wind or turbulence except for the occasional "thrumming" on the top of the helmet and the odd gust coming in from the side. Most of the time all I could hear was the engine. It will be interesting to see if I need to wear earbuds out on the highway. Can't wait to try it in the rain.

Best mod on the bike so far, by far.

[Geordie Guy]

My Ned Kelly screen is defo right for me.

Out on the bike today and I can't fault it.

Its like the screen is not there.

Thats it sorted. No more mods for me.

I might stick some ribbon, wool, thread on it and make a video so you can see what is happening.

Mmmmm...... thats a thought, before and after video's.

See what I can do.

Over and Out !

[Geordie Guy]

Thrak, has done this.

Looks like a skidmarks Double bubble with holes.



Can you give us an update on whats its like to ride with.

Cheers, Ivan

[Geordie Guy]

Welcome back Whisty.

glad you came to the same conclusion, less is more.

Good photos.

Cheers, Ivan

That acumen is in exactly the same place as mine

[jim850wav]

Hi all... kind of new to all this , still finding my why round the site.. only read this topic last night.. Got a Mk1 93 so could,nt wait till this morning to get at my screen... When I first got my TDM I could,nt believe the wind battering around your head .. as bad as any Naked I have had but everything else about the TDM made up for it .. Started by drilling a few holes then out for a ride.. no noticeable deference.. so said go for it , got the hacksaw out and 10 mins later it was done. I had cut the top of to the vent hole that is in the Mk1 screen.. Headed out for about 30 miles and YES there is a Big Improvement around your helmet .. Not half the noise and it no longer feels like your riding into a force 9 gale.. yea you get the wind now on your chest and shoulders but you are on a motorcycle and if you ever rode a Naked you wo,nt even notice it .. Even at 100mph it no longer feels like your head is going to come off.. " this was tried out on a private road I know close by " Here is a few pics

[TimH]

I'm actually a little embarrassed to admit it, but after cutting mine down (which fixed the buffeting btw) but not liking the look, I bought one of these on ebay



Cheap and nasty, it fits poorly, there are areas of distortion from sloppy moulding, don't know what it's made of, hope never to hit it at speed with any body-part....

But to my surprise, it seems to work better than the stock screen! It's a bit taller, and has the bubble thing going on, although not as sophisticated as an MRA or similar. But I landed mine in Aus for about AU$25, so I had nothing to lose. Done about 1000k with it so far, from dirt road to a 300km stretch of straight country highway.

Anyway, the point of this post was, if anyone is planning to experiment with cutting a screen down, perhaps you could buy one of these cheap rubbish ones and find something that works, before hacking into the oem screen.....

edit: looks like this on the bike

Edited by cypher, 13 April 2010 - 11:15 am.

[Geordie Guy]

Nice one Cypher,

What are you like ......

Well for £18.02 it is worth a punt.

so I just bought one.

Promise this time not to attack it with a drill.

If its no good for me I will sell it on here for someone else to try.


Cheers, Ivan

[muddy]

Nice one Cypher,

What are you like ......

Well for £18.02 it is worth a punt.

so I just bought one.

Promise this time not to attack it with a drill.

If its no good for me I will sell it on here for someone else to try.
Cheers, Ivan

If yours arrives in one piece and fits, I'll be getting one myself at that price. A spare screen won't hurt to experiment on.

[silver]

These were 2 of my recent attempts, but i have now gone back to a cut down std screen with the leading edge raised about 8mm off the fairing, this just get my helmet in clean air and i am 5'10".

[TimH]

Hi Cypher, this is the one i posted about some time back, yeah cheap and nasty and lopsided fit but good to play with. Although it was a bit better than the standard, i cut mine down which gave a good result. But i felt that the DB shape pushed the wind higher meaning that the flatter shapes would actually give a better result when cut down, which is what I did to the Vario. This cheap DB cut down has been sent to a TDMer in Queensland to try out.

Cheers Graeme

It definitely pushes the wind higher - I'm finding more pressure on my wrists as there is less wind pressure on my upper body. Mapping the wind line with my hand while riding it seems the wind is hitting higher on my visor now where before it was hitting nearer the base of my helmet. There is less turbulence and noise than with the stock screen but I'm going from memory as it's months since I've ridden with a stock screen. There is no doubt cutting the screen down is the best solution for me and my bike, but as I said when I did it many posts back, I went too far and don't like how it looks.

I was planning on cutting this cheap one down but I've left it alone so far and not sure now if I'll change it just yet. I have a new helmet purchase in the budget, as I think my helmet is just a noisy POC (HJC CSR1), so I'll see if I still need to do any work on the screen once I get a better helmet.

Tim

[AzzA]

Helmet noise was mentioned above and, from my experience, even a quiet helmet is noisy on a 9'er for a rider about ~6". I ride with an Aria Profile (review link) which is nearly as good as you might hope for, noise wise, but it's still noisy on the 9'er with the stock screen... even at lower/town speeds. I've riden with the same helmet on various other bikes, inc' V-Rod, Thunderbird, Rocket III, SpeedMaster/America, Bonneville, CBF250, and CanAm Spyder which have all been quieter for wind noise.

The only current option for the 9'er IMHO is cut lower or go higher with a laminar-flow design.


(WebBikeWorld used to have more helmet noise comparisons, I think, but I couldn't find them to link to. Their site is a good read should you be in the market for a new lid.)

Edited by AzzA, 19 April 2010 - 03:42 am.

[dmmsta]

I finally got round to starting the mod's on my std screen.

Have left the height as is for now, and added 4 7mm holes about a 1/3 of the way up (pretty much in line with the top of the dials).

Has made a significant difference to the buffeting, and has reduced some of the noise because of the reduced buffeting. There is still the wind noise from the air flow off the top of the screen, so looks like I'm going to have to "trim" to top down to combat this.

However, i'm more than happy with the initial results.