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#1 dapleb

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Posted 17 September 2020 - 03:33 pm

Bad day. I wasn't even undoing I was doing up....didn't even get to 10nm....... oh dear. :0(

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Posted 17 September 2020 - 03:44 pm

Tracy tools do left hand drill bits, once a drill bites it will prolly just come out.


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Posted 17 September 2020 - 03:47 pm

Yeah I did think aboot that, thanks. I used to have some left hand bits that had an expanding collar that really worked well. Not the kinda place you want to get it wrong... And I seem to have the opposite of the Midas touch at the moment. :0)
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Posted 17 September 2020 - 05:48 pm

Daaang !  How the heck did that happen ?  Dodgy bolt ?

 

Sounds like SB's plan is prolly the best way to attack this.  I guess there's the risk of getting some swarf in the engine but I can't think of any other way other than head removal, unless you could get summat welded to it.


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Posted 17 September 2020 - 06:01 pm

I am always really careful with bolts undo and do up.....it never even tightened fully it just smushed off...as you can see not even flush, it sits lower than the barrel so welding ain't gonna happen.

Hmm swarf yeah ...might wait till my recent touch of death has worn off!!!
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Posted 17 September 2020 - 06:19 pm

A small bit of swarf won't do any real harm in the cooling system, different matter in the oil, it would likely just sit in the bottom of the water jacket harmlessly, I would imagine if the head broke that easily the rest will come out long before the drill breaks through as any torque you had on it went when the head came off.


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Posted 18 September 2020 - 05:30 pm

Is it leaking dabs ! just had mine out on Wednesday and the amount of coolant that came out was pitiful, maybe a spoonful, that after draining from the main bolt..


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Posted 18 September 2020 - 06:24 pm

Yeah no water in there but still leaking. So when refilled will pish oooot. As you said nothing worthwhile emanated from there anyways. Shoulda just left well alone.

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Posted 18 September 2020 - 06:30 pm

:lol:  Better to happen there than parked on a hill eh.  I bet the tester was swinging off it though.


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Posted 18 September 2020 - 06:49 pm

True enough that.

Think the TDM might have to wait a few weeks until I feel like attempting that bolt.
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Posted 19 September 2020 - 06:19 am

Here's the doohickey I have used before...hmmm not seen it for 15 odd years so not sure if I had a set or one size. Anyways I don't think there is enough length for this to work.

https://www.newmantools.com/drillout/how1.htm#:~:text=To%20remove%20Drill-Out®,is%20ready%20to%20use%20again.
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Posted 19 September 2020 - 07:44 am

It's gonna be tricky getting the drill centred spot on, what with the position and angle of the bolt hole.  You thinking there might not be enough bolt remaining in the hole ?  I forget what diameter the bolt is, M6 ?


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Posted 19 September 2020 - 09:32 am

It's gonna be tricky getting the drill centred spot on, what with the position and angle of the bolt hole.  You thinking there might not be enough bolt remaining in the hole ?  I forget what diameter the bolt is, M6 ?

 

I've used these to get centred, used for door hinges normally, i've also changed the drill bit out but either way it should get you started..

 

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Edited by dablik, 19 September 2020 - 09:33 am.

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Posted 19 September 2020 - 10:22 am

Natty piece of kit there Dabs. :good:


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Posted 19 September 2020 - 11:05 am

Natty piece of kit there Dabs. :good:

 

Yup they do the job for sure..


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Posted 19 September 2020 - 12:04 pm

Those collet drill-out things self centre but yeah it's not in a place I want to go wrong. I have seen them sleeved things dabbers seem to work very neat to protect threads.

Not too worried at the mo as only had this week really to use the boike and couldn't as I broke it, so there are more urgent things I have broken this week that need attention. :0)

  You thinking there might not be enough bolt remaining in the hole ?  I forget what diameter the bolt is, M6 ?


I took a bolt ooot of another barrel and it looked aboot 10mm long, so not much bolt in hole to play with...assuming this bolt is the right length.

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Posted 19 September 2020 - 07:29 pm

How about drilling two small holes off center and twist it out with a snap ring plier? Avoids the whole centering issue.

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Posted 19 September 2020 - 08:02 pm

There's not a lot of room there to work on it properly there. Maybe wheel and one fork off would help. Its a pita but worse if it goes Pete Tong.

BTW, I had a brake pipe burst on an MOT brake test before. I was peed but the examiner reminded me of the busy junction on to a fast main road on leaving his station. Oops!

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Posted 24 September 2020 - 02:06 pm

Normal service has been resumed.

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Let's not do that again.

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Posted 24 September 2020 - 02:31 pm

Go on the which trick did you use? Not the old "glue a bolt head over the broken bit and sell it quick" tactic I hope.... :P

 

 

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