Headlight question
#1
Posted 02 December 2006 - 12:01 am
I suspect a new unit will cost more than the bike is worth so to broaden my choice at the breakers I was wondering if the 99-2002 TDM 850 units are the same as the 96-99 ones?
Thanks in advance
#2
Posted 02 December 2006 - 08:57 am
To do: Keep my licence............
Got rid of that thing within 200 miles - talk about Blaaaaaaand. Got myself a rather nice KTM 660SMC in a fetching orange colour.....
#3
Posted 02 December 2006 - 11:26 am
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#4
Posted 02 December 2006 - 01:19 pm
I went though the headlight trauma when I imported me UK bike to France. Here's the UK light:
and here's the new french spec light i bought
Exactly the fookin same part
#5
Posted 02 December 2006 - 05:04 pm
Too bad its not a Mk1 with the round lamps, you could try swapping them left to right (the entire unit)
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#6
Posted 02 December 2006 - 07:58 pm
All I know is that the headlight on my bike clearly dips to the right and that the bike was originally imported from Europe. Do UK TDMs also dip to the right then?
#7
Posted 02 December 2006 - 10:28 pm
Set the bike upright, pointing at your garage door or a wall. Mark your beam position with a bit of chalk or some non-permanent marker. Start with your low beam(left,H1). When you're happy with that, cover it with a piece of card and work on your high beam(H3/right) I bet it's also pointing at oncoming traffic, blinding them.
Take it onto road at night, sitting on it to see where beams are pointing. Adjust again until you're happy.
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Posted 02 December 2006 - 11:41 pm
#9
Posted 03 December 2006 - 01:12 pm
I went though the headlight trauma when I imported me UK bike to France. Here's the UK light:
and here's the new french spec light i bought
Exactly the fookin same part
notice the H1 & H3 moulded in the lens !!!
Set the bike upright, pointing at your garage door or a wall. Mark your beam position with a bit of chalk or some non-permanent marker. Start with your low beam(left,H1). When you're happy with that, cover it with a piece of card and work on your high beam(H3/right) I bet it's also pointing at oncoming traffic, blinding them.
Take it onto road at night, sitting on it to see where beams are pointing. Adjust again until you're happy.
Count the cuts in the backs of your hands.
yes brudder i agree with ya dare but this is better than blisters on yer palms............then again maybe.... we love Dub's here ya know
spyball alarm/immob, bluespot brake calipers and Stainless hoses, Fournales air adjustable shock with Remote Resevoir, forks raised 10mm thru yokes, racetech linear fork springs in 15 wt oil, Kappa wingrack/luggage, heated grips, Kedo handguards, dual heat controller to power heated jacket liner and or pants!!, Stebel 136DB horn, K&N air filter, colour matched Baglux tank cover (magnetic tank bag modified to fit cover), osram +50% headloight bulbs, headlight protector,"NitramSpecial" parking loight, tail light indicators all running on LED's & incorporate "Lite Buddies", MK7 Scottoiler fitted, taller screen, 2-2 stainless steel CCC's, Devil stainless down pipes. MKI Renntec engine crash bars & sump guard.
engine changed july 2007 on a dyno run it made 79.1BHP / Torque 59.9Had a brief flirtation with a 1999 MKIIa but it blew an exaust valve on the M5 so was sold on to be repaired.
I loike tay and hang sangwiches !
www.kenhogantreeservices.co.uk
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#10 Guest_GuyGraham_*
Posted 03 December 2006 - 07:57 pm
I went though the headlight trauma when I imported me UK bike to France. Here's the UK light:
and here's the new french spec light i bought
Exactly the fookin same part
I went though the headlight trauma when I imported me UK bike to France. Here's the UK light:
and here's the new french spec light i bought
Exactly the fookin same part
Dipped beam - the one that needs to have the correct pattern is the projector lamp. Beam patten seems to be controlled within the reflector
Adjusting it won't make the beam pattern correct either.
Edited by GuyGraham, 04 December 2006 - 07:02 pm.
#11
Posted 04 December 2006 - 06:24 pm
110-3116, and it is the same on both. I understand stuff about the deflector inside, but surely the lens pattern makes all the difference, adn here they are identical - though I know that it is not logical for the exact same light to dip differently
#12 Guest_GuyGraham_*
Posted 04 December 2006 - 07:05 pm
110-3116, and it is the same on both. I understand stuff about the deflector inside, but surely the lens pattern makes all the difference, adn here they are identical - though I know that it is not logical for the exact same light to dip differently
that might just be the part no for the lens - not the deflector, but my UK spec light from '96 has part no. 110-31165
There's one on the housing as well which is 110-31672
actual spares you buy have the Yamaha numeric alpha alpha part number system (4TX) at the beginning so its not the part number for the assy.
#13
Posted 04 December 2006 - 08:01 pm
Too bad its not a Mk1 with the round lamps, you could try swapping them left to right (the entire unit)
The answer to your question is the lights are the same.its the light deflector inside the light which controls left/right of the beam pattern.Spin on this site modded his own import light to dip to the left by taking the light to bits removing the bit in the light making it dip to the right this is how he got it to work correctly.NO adjustment of the screws will fix your problem.hope this helps.
#14
Posted 04 December 2006 - 08:03 pm
#15
Posted 04 December 2006 - 08:12 pm
#16
Posted 05 December 2006 - 09:06 pm
makes sense to me, gotta be worth a try.
spyball alarm/immob, bluespot brake calipers and Stainless hoses, Fournales air adjustable shock with Remote Resevoir, forks raised 10mm thru yokes, racetech linear fork springs in 15 wt oil, Kappa wingrack/luggage, heated grips, Kedo handguards, dual heat controller to power heated jacket liner and or pants!!, Stebel 136DB horn, K&N air filter, colour matched Baglux tank cover (magnetic tank bag modified to fit cover), osram +50% headloight bulbs, headlight protector,"NitramSpecial" parking loight, tail light indicators all running on LED's & incorporate "Lite Buddies", MK7 Scottoiler fitted, taller screen, 2-2 stainless steel CCC's, Devil stainless down pipes. MKI Renntec engine crash bars & sump guard.
engine changed july 2007 on a dyno run it made 79.1BHP / Torque 59.9Had a brief flirtation with a 1999 MKIIa but it blew an exaust valve on the M5 so was sold on to be repaired.
I loike tay and hang sangwiches !
www.kenhogantreeservices.co.uk
http://s33.photobuck...77/wickla/?sc=6
http://reg.imageshack.us/v_images.php
#17
Posted 06 December 2006 - 12:19 pm
Interesting. You mean to say "UK-dipping" is the standard on Yamaha production models and US / European versions use inserts? That seems odd, unless the Japanese drive on the left-hand side of the road too?
Not sure if it's the same kind of thing, but I once tried using an adaptor on my Buell's headlight I brought in from Holland, but that seemed to dip its beam to both sides: It was like riding by candle-light, quite romantic but rather frightening. I swapped units in the end with someone who moved to France (and naive enough to expect wanting to stay there apparently ), that made quite a difference
#18
Posted 06 December 2006 - 01:01 pm
Indeed they do.
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#19
Posted 20 January 2007 - 07:24 pm
Verdict: Yes, the part-number is the same, the lens-glass looks indentical and have exactly the same code, but despite all this: It dips to the opposite side.
So that's that solved then.
BTW: On the top of the unit there is a number and a "B" printed in white paint on it whereas mine had an "E". Since I have a 2001 model and the headlight comes from a '96 one this could simply refer to a lower serial-number, but since the lights are definitely different it might very well refer to "Britain" and "Europe"?
I am s happy chappy now, no MOT worries anymore
Now then: Anyone interested in a 2001 TDM 850 headlight unit with "Euro-dip"? Just drop me a PM, prolly put it on eBay if nobody responds.
Edited by robelst, 20 January 2007 - 07:30 pm.
#20
Posted 20 January 2007 - 11:30 pm
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