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Started by Cpeders , May 24 2006 09:41 pm

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#1 Cpeders

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Posted 24 May 2006 - 09:41 pm

Hi folks.

I`ve just had my worst nightmare so far.
I`m new to motorcykles. And today I should been on my first ride with my TDM.
But offcourse.... It didn`t start.
Its a 98 modell TDM850.
I got fuel, the battery was ok, the sidestand was up, i had it in neutral, the engineswitch was set to run and the fuelswitch was set to run...
The starter engine was running, but it would not ignite.
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Any suggestions.....

Hopefully you understand my english, its been some years since school.
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Posted 24 May 2006 - 09:50 pm

QUOTE(Cpeders @ Wed 24th May 2006, 10:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi folks.

I`ve just had my worst nightmare so far.
I`m new to motorcykles. And today I should been on my first ride with my TDM.
But offcourse.... It didn`t start.
Its a 98 modell TDM850.
I got fuel, the battery was ok, the sidestand was up, i had it in neutral, the engineswitch was set to run and the fuelswitch was set to run...
The starter engine was running, but it would not ignite.
sad.gif
Any suggestions.....

Hopefully you understand my english, its been some years since school.

Welcome CP......did you try some choke?....maybe its still a little cold in Norway.......

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#3 dapleb

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Posted 24 May 2006 - 09:50 pm

Have you checked the plugs?
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Posted 24 May 2006 - 10:12 pm

Tried both with and without choke.
Not wery warm yet.. right now it`s 5 deg. celcius.... notfunny.gif But the forecast is lloking good next week.
The battery got empty, so I have to start over again tomorow.
I started the bike last week, and it started well then. Since then it was just been standing in the garage at work.
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Posted 24 May 2006 - 10:20 pm

How about the vacuum hose? Is there fuel getting to the carbs?
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Posted 24 May 2006 - 10:31 pm

Do you put fuel stabilizer in the gas tank for storage? If not your carbs could be varnished.
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Posted 25 May 2006 - 12:29 am

Are there enough dilithium crystals in the warp drive?
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Posted 25 May 2006 - 07:33 am

QUOTE(dapleb @ Wed 24th May 2006, 10:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Have you checked the plugs?

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Posted 25 May 2006 - 07:36 am

Norway mmmmmm..... land of blonde beauties (and thats just the blokes)

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Posted 25 May 2006 - 07:44 am

I dont know about anyone else - but if I 'flood' mine - it will NEVER start until I pull the plugs, spin it a bit, clean (or even replace) the plugs.

which is good fun on a mk2...

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Posted 25 May 2006 - 08:51 am

i've never flooded mine so i have been looky i guess.

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Posted 25 May 2006 - 09:04 am

QUOTE(wicklamulla @ Thu 25th May 2006, 09:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i've never flooded mine so i have been looky i guess.

Never flooded mine either, bet we'll both flood them today. tongue.gif

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Posted 25 May 2006 - 09:13 am

QUOTE(Emmett @ Thu 25th May 2006, 09:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Never flooded mine either, bet we'll both flood them today. tongue.gif



Please dont flood anything dont you know theres a "hosepipe ban" in force the department of the enviroment will be watching you

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Posted 25 May 2006 - 09:45 am

QUOTE(guydewdney @ Thu 25th May 2006, 08:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I dont know about anyone else - but if I 'flood' mine - it will NEVER start until I pull the plugs, spin it a bit, clean (or even replace) the plugs.

which is good fun on a mk2...

The trick to start a flooded engine is to close the choke (ie no choke), open the throttle fully, turn the engine over on the starter for 5 seconds, then slowly start to close the throttle. When you hear the engine start to fire, hold the throttle at that point for a second or two, then continue closing the throttle until it fires properly. Release the starter button, and hold it at a high idle (1500rpm) until the engine has some heat in it. You probably only get one go at this because the battery don't have enough in it to do it a second time. Never tried it on a TDM, but it works on most bikes and carb fed cars.

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Posted 25 May 2006 - 11:38 am

Thanx for the tips guys. good.gif
Now i got one thing or two to do today. Cut the lawn, and get the bike going.
Wish me luck... tongue.gif
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Posted 25 May 2006 - 12:01 pm

QUOTE(Cpeders @ Thu 25th May 2006, 12:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanx for the tips guys. good.gif
Now i got one thing or two to do today. Cut the lawn, and get the bike going.
Wish me luck... tongue.gif

do the bike first, the grass will only grow again.
leave it till it turns to hay and you can sell it to fund the next service.

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Posted 25 May 2006 - 05:14 pm

QUOTE(SteveGlover @ Thu 25th May 2006, 10:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The trick to start a flooded engine is to close the choke (ie no choke), open the throttle fully, turn the engine over on the starter for 5 seconds, then slowly start to close the throttle. When you hear the engine start to fire, hold the throttle at that point for a second or two, then continue closing the throttle until it fires properly. Release the starter button, and hold it at a high idle (1500rpm) until the engine has some heat in it. You probably only get one go at this because the battery don't have enough in it to do it a second time. Never tried it on a TDM, but it works on most bikes and carb fed cars.


I know where your coming from Steve but it can be awkward with CV carbs, they won't lift to get the air in til it starts.............. huh.gif

I think, like dapleb, that you've soaked the plugs. Its best to turn off the fuel tap on these models if you plan to have the bike lying for any length of time......fuel can drain down into the cylinders and flood the plugs.

Edited by dandywarhol, 25 May 2006 - 05:16 pm.

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Posted 25 May 2006 - 07:03 pm

QUOTE(Cpeders @ Wed 24th May 2006, 10:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi folks.

I`ve just had my worst nightmare so far.
I`m new to motorcykles. And today I should been on my first ride with my TDM.
But offcourse.... It didn`t start.
Its a 98 modell TDM850.
I got fuel, the battery was ok, the sidestand was up, i had it in neutral, the engineswitch was set to run and the fuelswitch was set to run...
The starter engine was running, but it would not ignite.
sad.gif
Any suggestions.....

Hopefully you understand my english, its been some years since school.


Have you checked the killswitch? I looked a pillock outside my local Damerells a while ago, mine wouldn't start until one of the guys opened the window and told me to try the killswitch-it's fairly easy to move it accidentally. Good choice for a first bike-I'm in the same boat as you, new to biking and bought a TDM. Definitely no regrets!

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Posted 25 May 2006 - 07:14 pm

QUOTE(dandywarhol @ Thu 25th May 2006, 07:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I know where your coming from Steve but it can be awkward with CV carbs, they won't lift to get the air in til it starts.............. huh.gif

I think, like dapleb, that you've soaked the plugs. Its best to turn off the fuel tap on these models if you plan to have the bike lying for any length of time......fuel can drain down into the cylinders and flood the plugs.

i go with this always turn off the fuel,i do mine about half a mile from home.Has anyone had the big backfire when starting?ive bin told its cos of excess fuel in the combustion area.

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Posted 25 May 2006 - 07:52 pm

QUOTE(ROB1 @ Thu 25th May 2006, 07:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i go with this always turn off the fuel,i do mine about half a mile from home.Has anyone had the big backfire when starting?ive bin told its cos of excess fuel in the combustion area.

Yep...had that one time in my lockup.......had to go home for a change of underwear and a new pair of ears.

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