Tracer 7 - The Closest To A Tdm You Get In 2021?
#1
Posted 20 August 2021 - 08:54 pm
#2
Posted 20 August 2021 - 09:43 pm
It's smaller, you have to look down to see the gauges.
It's lighter, some ~30kgs, which is good at low speed and in hairpins but gives poorer comfort on motorways...
The engine is a gem! The Mk1 suffers from a flat spot between 2.5k an 3k revs - the cruising speed on b-roads. The T7 has a massive midrange - roll-on from 80-120km/h in 5th is hilarious compared to the Mk1 and is way better than the 9er as I remember it. What I would desire was the kick in the upper rev range, but it's lively. And extremely usable - right where you need it for fun riding. 6th gear is an overdrive, real driving is better kn 4th/5th.
Steering is divine - point-and-shoot. Especially the long fast curves, yiu hit the ideal track at first attempt. Anf flickable, too. This combination surprised me the most.
So the not-so-good: Rear suspension. Utter shite. Coming from a Nitron shock I was ...shocked... I expected nothing but it was worse than I could imagine. The front was fairly good, I think they've fitted a cartridge damper now. May need some valves, hard yo tell before the shock is sorted.
Brakes are familiar to a long time blue spots rider, a bit shocking to ride a bike with 0kms on the clock and brakes tvat needed some scrubbing-in to work.
Ok, summary tomorrow😎 Cheers!
#3
Posted 21 August 2021 - 09:33 am
Seat felt hard at first, but I forgot about it which is a good sign. Will upgrade it at some point.
Wind screen is ok in tallest setting, juuust about to have some buffeting.
There is definately some snatchiness and on-off feel to the engine which will take me some time to get used to. While I love the hard engine braking at speed as I find it the ideal way to adjust speed into turns, it's a challenge to me in slow manouvering. Also, a slipper clutch would be nice. I tried this for the first time on the F900XR and loved it!
I was in doubt the first few kms from the dealer, and really thought about maybe keeping the Mk1 for makkng the final decision later. "Later" showed to be ~200kms down the road, when I started to get usdd to it and opened the throttle more for increased speed and lean. It really ticked the two boxes on my desire form: A more lively engine and effortless cornering. Can't see me going back...
#4
Posted 21 August 2021 - 09:40 am
#5
Posted 21 August 2021 - 09:55 am
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#6
Posted 21 August 2021 - 11:28 am
It will be washed & have a few minor scratches polished to be advertised for sale. I expect for near giveaway money...😐What's to become of the MK1 bjorgey or already gone?
Lucky to get 1/10th of the T7 price...
Edited by Bjørge, 21 August 2021 - 11:28 am.
#7
Posted 21 August 2021 - 01:19 pm
Congrats Bjorge shame your mk1 Nitron is 29.5mm to short furra swap. Shock lengths
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#8
Posted 21 August 2021 - 01:38 pm
Congrats Bjorge shame your mk1 Nitron is 29.5mm to short furra swap. Shock lengths
Thanks! Would probably loose more trying to sell a bike with no rear shock 😁 - the old one went in the bin long ago...
#9
Posted 21 August 2021 - 03:00 pm
Congrats Bjorge shame your mk1 Nitron is 29.5mm to short furra swap. Shock lengths
That list is interesting, but doesn't include either of my other bikes - the CBX750 or Cagiva N90.
It also brings about a feeling of regret. I sold an all-singing all-dancing Penske shock off my VFR800Fi when it is the exact same length as the TDM @ 325mm. Ah well!
Back to the T7. A clubmate has a Tracer 700 and is well pleased with it, and I've read reports saying it is a modern-day TDM900. Howzabout a pic or two, Bjorge?
#10
Posted 21 August 2021 - 03:04 pm
That list is interesting, but doesn't include either of my other bikes - the CBX750 or Cagiva N90.
It also brings about a feeling of regret. I sold an all-singing all-dancing Penske shock off my VFR800Fi when it is the exact same length as the TDM @ 325mm. Ah well!
Back to the T7. A clubmate has a Tracer 700 and is well pleased with it, and I've read reports saying it is a modern-day TDM900. Howzabout a pic or two, Bjorge?
It doesn't include my other bikes manufacturer......
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#11
Posted 21 August 2021 - 03:53 pm
Back to the T7. A clubmate has a Tracer 700 and is well pleased with it, and I've read reports saying it is a modern-day TDM900. Howzabout a pic or two, Bjorge?
For now, official pictures are spot on😎:
https://images.app.g...gkhHSQDtT1ywLy7
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#12
Posted 21 August 2021 - 07:37 pm
I knew it was a good platform, when out on a fast run with a group, one of the young lads was on an MT-07....We took a slip road off the M74 motorway which looped back under the motorway on a tight bend, the TDM was about at it's limits touching the pegs/stand, and this lad just rode around the outside of me under power !
Edited by fixitsan, 21 August 2021 - 07:39 pm.
900 with better bits. Owes me nothing, Makes me smile
#14
Posted 22 August 2021 - 10:52 am
In my MT-07 the engine feels similar to the TDM 900, and it certainly is a cracker. You never get bored with it. Enjoy your new bike.
Edited by Robodene, 22 August 2021 - 10:52 am.
#15
Posted 22 August 2021 - 10:58 am
In my MT-07 the engine feels similar to the TDM 900, and it certainly is a cracker. You never get bored with it. Enjoy your new bike.
Yes, similar power delivery. A tad bitt less choppy on low revs, as far as I remember the 9er. I'm not sure if the engines behave exactly the same after it came in EURO5 - version. Max power droppet a coupla BHP and max torque rpm dropped ~500.
#16
Posted 22 August 2021 - 03:45 pm
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#17
Posted 22 August 2021 - 07:19 pm
In the R7 there is different gearing and electronics, at least.
#18
Posted 22 August 2021 - 11:38 pm
I was a bit confuzzled reading a Tracer thread about a T7 but the pic clarified it.
I suspect a lot of your comments apply to the Tenere 700 which is very much on my wish list.
As time goes by I'm getting dirtier and slower and hankering after a 2021 trailie.
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#19
Posted 23 August 2021 - 05:25 am
#20
Posted 23 August 2021 - 10:23 pm
I'm just a bit thick.
TDM 850 Loud and unusual. CRM 250r Woo hoo! DT 230 Lanza Fiddled with.... Bloody hell, is that legal? GG Randonee AKA "I didn't think that was possible".
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