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#1 Retro

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Posted 09 September 2014 - 09:17 am

The American Machinist's Workshop Mag published some information on various penetrating oils. The magazine reports they tested penetrates for break out torque on rusted nuts. They arranged a subjective test of all the popular penetrates with the control being the torque required to remove the nut from a "scientifically rusted" environment.

(Average torque load to loosen)
No Oil used ................... 516 pounds
WD-40 .......................... 238 pounds
PB Blaster ..................... 214 pounds
Liquid Wrench ...............127 pounds
Kano Kroil .................... 106 pounds
ATF-Acetone mix...........53 pounds

The ATF-Acetone mix is a "home brew" mix of 50 - 50 automatic transmission fluid and acetone. Note this "home brew" released bolts better than any commercial product in this one particular test. 
ATF-Acetone mix is best, but you can also use ATF and lacquer thinner in a 50-50 mix.


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Posted 09 September 2014 - 09:24 am

http://www.carpe-tdm...7080&hl=acetone


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Posted 09 September 2014 - 11:22 am

Does the ATF acetone mix damage paintwork or plastic?


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Posted 09 September 2014 - 11:24 am

The American Machinist's Workshop Mag published some information on various penetrating oils. The magazine reports they tested penetrates for break out torque on rusted nuts. They arranged a subjective test of all the popular penetrates with the control being the torque required to remove the nut from a "scientifically rusted" environment.

(Average torque load to loosen)
No Oil used ................... 516 pounds
WD-40 .......................... 238 pounds
PB Blaster ..................... 214 pounds
Liquid Wrench ...............127 pounds
Kano Kroil .................... 106 pounds
ATF-Acetone mix...........53 pounds

The ATF-Acetone mix is a "home brew" mix of 50 - 50 automatic transmission fluid and acetone. Note this "home brew" released bolts better than any commercial product in this one particular test. 
ATF-Acetone mix is best, but you can also use ATF and lacquer thinner in a 50-50 mix.

 

Are there any stats for PlusGas?......it seems to work well enough


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Posted 09 September 2014 - 06:14 pm

Where would you source Acetone from?



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Posted 09 September 2014 - 06:24 pm

Nail varnish remover, although you can probably buy it cheaper online.

 

Be very careful around plastics though, someone on here posted something about doing faring repairs by melting lego in acetone and using it as a filler.


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Posted 09 September 2014 - 08:39 pm

Nail varnish remover, although you can probably buy it cheaper online.

 

Be very careful around plastics though, someone on here posted something about doing faring repairs by melting lego in acetone and using it as a filler.

 

You can get acetone from a chemist IIRC.


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Posted 09 September 2014 - 09:25 pm

You used to be able to source it from boat chandlers about 5yrs back. i have had no reason to buy any since then , but recon they probably still sell it.


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Posted 10 September 2014 - 08:27 am

Where would you source Acetone from?

 

Tesco pharmacy, quid a bottle. :)


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Posted 10 September 2014 - 09:02 am

 

Be very careful around plastics though, someone on here posted something about doing faring repairs by melting lego in acetone and using it as a filler.

 

That's a cracking idea. Two new tricks.

 

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Posted 10 September 2014 - 05:12 pm

Acetone also cleaned the brown staining on my KH250 carbs & made them look like new. Showing my age :bag:



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Posted 10 September 2014 - 05:53 pm

Acetone also cleaned the brown staining on my KH250 carbs & made them look like new. Showing my age :bag:

 

Did it do the seat too ? ;D


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Posted 11 September 2014 - 07:31 am

No. Needed flash & a scrubbing brush for that.

In the wet it would go on to 2 cylinders when I shut off approaching a bend and back on to 3 half way round. :rant:  

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Posted 24 September 2014 - 05:10 pm

Retro - thanks for posting  :drinks:



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Posted 25 September 2014 - 05:38 am

I have just got a gallon of acetone to clean the varnish out of the brick tank.

Will strip any paint it touches .



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Posted 01 December 2014 - 06:39 pm

Can't wait to try this out.

 

Boots the Chemist, Acetone £1.59 + 1 x dropper bottle £1.00.

 

Spare ATF from carb balancer setup. 50/50

 

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Posted 01 December 2014 - 06:43 pm

Sorry for the dumbness
What's ATF?
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Posted 01 December 2014 - 06:56 pm

Automatic Transmission Fluid.


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Posted 03 December 2014 - 12:03 pm

Right.
It is a very fluid oil.
You can use also hydraulic oil or oil for the motorcycle fork.
We use hydraulic oil for the excavators in the motorcycle fork.
 
Good tip.
So far I used WD40 or other penetrating oil and heated the outer thread.
So that oil is better penetrate into the smallest joints can.
 
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