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[Chris TDM]

as some of you might know i'm looking for a new bike, Mainly a large off road bike, along the lines of a ETV or Vstrom, But i've also been looking at a XTZ manly due to the fact i know the engine (being a smaller version of the TDM's) and the fact you don't see many of them around, But really i have a cople of questions which someone here might know.

1) I spend a lot of time 2up going to rallys so what is it like on room compared to the TDM
2) Can you get hard luggage
3) I know the Mk1 tdm and the TRX engines will fit but i hear the mk2 tdm's wont, is this true?
4) I'm 6 foot 4 tall am i gonna look silly?

Thanks

[Hartside Man]

as some of you might know i'm looking for a new bike, Mainly a large off road bike, along the lines of a ETV or Vstrom, But i've also been looking at a XTZ manly due to the fact i know the engine (being a smaller version of the TDM's) and the fact you don't see many of them around, But really i have a cople of questions which someone here might know.

1) I spend a lot of time 2up going to rallys so what is it like on room compared to the TDM
2) Can you get hard luggage
3) I know the Mk1 tdm and the TRX engines will fit but i hear the mk2 tdm's wont, is this true?
4) I'm 6 foot 4 tall am i gonna look silly?

Thanks

Tony devil should be back home later tonight, i would guess he can answer all your questions (apart from the height issues )

[Spirit]

I'm 6 foot 4 tall am i gonna look silly?

I am as tall as you. Most bikes are minomotos when I sit on them. TDM, Tiger, V-strom looks OK though, but the Ténéré is a bit smaller.

However, I gave up on this issue and don't care anymore. If it feels OK, I drive it and don't care about what it looks like. So I simply suggest that you try it, and if you feel comfortable - just buy it.

[wicklamulla]

MKII and TRX enjun are the same so either will fit but you have to remove the piggy back oil tank (makes the enjun look like a V twin) thats bolted onto the crankcases and use the XTZ's oil tank instead.

[Chris TDM]

MKII and TRX enjun are the same so either will fit but you have to remove the piggy back oil tank (makes the enjun look like a V twin) thats bolted onto the crankcases and use the XTZ's oil tank instead.

thats handy to know, as i dont think i would get much for my Mk2 if i sold her or P/X it. I've seen a few XTZ's for sale for 1000-1500 with FSH, and looking quite mint. plus i saw one at the soggy moggy that had been resprayed FJR blue,it looked lovely, sadly the owner was never near his tent when i walked pass :/

[TonyDevil]

as some of you might know i'm looking for a new bike, Mainly a large off road bike, along the lines of a ETV or Vstrom, But i've also been looking at a XTZ manly due to the fact i know the engine (being a smaller version of the TDM's) and the fact you don't see many of them around, But really i have a cople of questions which someone here might know.

1) I spend a lot of time 2up going to rallys so what is it like on room compared to the TDM almost the same, its a bench seat, pillion is same height, but its comfy
2) Can you get hard luggage givi do a top box rack, but panniers are a bit harder to get, i'll have some alloy ones made up when i stop breaking things on the tdm
3) I know the Mk1 tdm and the TRX engines will fit but i hear the mk2 tdm's wont, is this true? no, mk1(3VD) is a straight swap for the 3LD xtz motor, the mk2 4TX and TRX 4UN engines will fit, but require different electrics and oil filler thingy changes, all that is documented on the S10 forum
4) I'm 6 foot 4 tall am i gonna look silly? nope, i can only just touch the ground and i'm 6inches shorter

Thanks

my S10 is back in Essex at the mo, but i'll be bringing it back to Reading sometime soon while the TDM is off the road.
can meet up for a ride then if you want

check out
http://supertenere.proboards20.com/
and
http://autos.groups....m/group/xtz750/

[Chris TDM]

my S10 is back in Essex at the mo, but i'll be bringing it back to Reading sometime soon while the TDM is off the road.
can meet up for a ride then if you want

check out
http://supertenere.proboards20.com/
and
http://autos.groups....m/group/xtz750/

cheers i've joined the proboards forum, lots of handy info, been looking at the 850 conversions looks to be quite simple, (he says)
Sure next time you have your S10 up here then we can meet up it would be handy to have a good look around one, I'm quite easy to spot with my sorry looking tdm

[TonyDevil]

cheers i've joined the proboards forum, lots of handy info, been looking at the 850 conversions looks to be quite simple, (he says)
Sure next time you have your S10 up here then we can meet up it would be handy to have a good look around one, I'm quite easy to spot with my sorry looking tdm

cool
bet its not as sorry looking as mine at the mo

[ChrisG]

At least you're not riding this:

(So bongo, bongo, bongo, I don't wanna leave the Congo, oh no no no no no)

Uh oh, you know you shouldn't get Dandy too excited, it's not good for him at his age

[danceswithmopeds]

I know that you Norwegians are all fairly tall, but how the hell do you throw your leg over that?

[Hartside Man]

I know that you Norwegians are all fairly tall, but how the hell do you throw your leg over that?

Have you met bjorn

[ChrisG]

Have you met bjorn

List time I saw him was was having trouble walking in a straight line let alone throwing his leg over anything

[TonyDevil]

List time I saw him was was having trouble walking in a straight line let alone throwing his leg over anything

lol he mentioned something about not enough blood in his alcohol stream

[robelst]

I found the Super-10 really good for tall people (I am 6"5), esp compared to the watered-down all-roads of today like V-Stroms and Caponords. They look great (esp the early blue/white/yellow ones) but build quality isn't great, brakes are poor even when kept in good condition (which is difficult enough) and the engine has plenty power but is a bit bland compared to the later 270 degrees TDM. But that's also a matter of taste of course

Prices are really low, esp compared to the heavily overpriced and overrated Honda Africa Twin so definitely worth looking around for

[JBX]

I had an XTZ until 2002, it's a good bike, very comfy & reliable.
This is the kind of bike that may bring you anywhere without trouble & pain.
The last trip I made with it lasted 12 hours non-stop across France.
That said, the brakes are non-existent and you have to ride very smoothly & carefully.

The Honda XRV is good too but not as comfortable.
Frame is better in short turns and engine have less power.

IMHO the XRV is overrated and the XTZ underrated.

[TonyDevil]

I had an XTZ until 2002, it's a good bike, very comfy & reliable.
This is the kind of bike that may bring you anywhere without trouble & pain.
The last trip I made with it lasted 12 hours non-stop across France.
That said, the brakes are non-existent and you have to ride very smoothly & carefully.

The Honda XRV is good too but not as comfortable.
Frame is better in short turns and engine have less power.

IMHO the XRV is overrated and the XTZ underrated.

i concur on the brakes, its quicker than the TDM & TRX away from the lights (because of the gearing) but its doesnt like stopping
not found a way of up rating the brakes yet