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#1 BN2TDM

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Posted 12 April 2008 - 08:57 pm

Got a paddock stand yesterday, and whilst my mate was with me it was easy putting his R6 on it. When he'd gone I tried putting the TDM on it on my own and nearly ended up under the bike!!!

Think I might go back to the 'crate and brick' method.

Didn't realise how bloody heavy the TDM is... unsure.gif

Should have got an ABBA stand, but will have to save up for that.



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Posted 12 April 2008 - 09:02 pm

I never had to much trouble getting my mk1 or the 900 on the paddock stand other than the bloddy steering won't stay straight.

Save for the abba, crackin bit of kit.

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Posted 12 April 2008 - 09:59 pm

Put bike on side stand, go stand behind bike, put cups under swing near axle, use passenger-handles to balance bike upright while lifting stand and rol it on: Done!
To take the bike off, I usually lift the paddocks's end a little, put my foot under it, grasp those passenger-handles, kick stand up all the way with my foot and end up holding the bike safely in my hands; if you had made sure the side stand was out, you can simple put it on there.

I use cheap paddock stands, I paid less than £30 for the pair on eBay 3 years ago and they've been excellent. The Buell has been on them for 7 months in the garden when the front engine mount had snapped, and no fatigue or rust whatsoever. Sometimes cheap is all you need laugh.gif

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Posted 12 April 2008 - 10:19 pm

I have a cheap rear padock stand - £12 I think. I use a similar method to Robelst. From the sidestand get behind the bike, slip cups under swing arm, put a foot on the handle of the stand, bring the bike vertical, put some weight on the stand while lifting the bike by the handles. Gets easy with a bit of practice.

Just don't forget the sidestand when you put the bike back down!



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Posted 13 April 2008 - 05:43 am

QUOTE(brightonTDM @ Sat 12th Apr 2008, 09:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Got a paddock stand yesterday, and whilst my mate was with me it was easy putting his R6 on it. When he'd gone I tried putting the TDM on it on my own and nearly ended up under the bike!!!

Think I might go back to the 'crate and brick' method.

Didn't realise how bloody heavy the TDM is... unsure.gif

Should have got an ABBA stand, but will have to save up for that.

It's actually harder to set up on the ABBA stand than a paddock stand - the benefit is that they're more versatile because of the higher lift and the ability to lift the front end easily. I use the paddock stand for chain service and the ABBA when I want to clean underneath or work on the front end.

The trick is to get it correctly positioned and hold the bike plumb before you start lifting. Also, the angle you push the handle down at should be perpendicular to the rails ( blink.gif ); by that, I mean push down & backwards a bit, not straight down. smile.gif
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Posted 13 April 2008 - 08:57 am

QUOTE(Sparky @ Sun 13th Apr 2008, 06:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's actually harder to set up on the ABBA stand than a paddock stand - the benefit is that they're more versatile because of the higher lift and the ability to lift the front end easily. I use the paddock stand for chain service and the ABBA when I want to clean underneath or work on the front end.

The trick is to get it correctly positioned and hold the bike plumb before you start lifting. Also, the angle you push the handle down at should be perpendicular to the rails ( blink.gif ); by that, I mean push down & backwards a bit, not straight down. smile.gif


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Posted 14 April 2008 - 12:23 am

It is like everytrhing you do....at first it seems difficult but the more you do it the easier it becomes. I thought the same but it comes with practice. When I bought the bike the original owner had never used the center stand as he could not get the hang of it. One of my mates showed me the trick and now I use it all the time........Persevere with the paddock.....
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Posted 14 April 2008 - 06:48 am

QUOTE(Sparra @ Mon 14th Apr 2008, 01:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It is like everytrhing you do....at first it seems difficult but the more you do it the easier it becomes. I thought the same but it comes with practice. When I bought the bike the original owner had never used the center stand as he could not get the hang of it. One of my mates showed me the trick and now I use it all the time........Persevere with the paddock.....

Use a stand I bought at auto jumble at Rufforth fits similar to Abba stand but over footrests not swinging arm pivots. no compression on back end easy to one man operate but still a little heavy on front end.Pretty cheap too about £45 if I remember rolleyes.gif

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Posted 15 April 2008 - 12:06 pm

I'm a girl and I can do it laugh.gif Well mature woman actually. Just remember to always put the side stand down again if you have been lubing with the bike in gear. I aways turn the handlebars to the left so the bike automatically rolls in the direction of the side stand. Was a bit nerve racking the first time yahoo.gif
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Posted 15 April 2008 - 12:53 pm

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Posted 15 April 2008 - 03:59 pm

QUOTE(Sparky @ Sun 13th Apr 2008, 06:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's actually harder to set up on the ABBA stand than a paddock stand


Sorry mate but I think the Abba stand is easy to use wether its cos I'm so tall but I can get my TDM up on the Abba in prob less than 2mins, But I can reach over and the bike to put the other side on and do up the bolts then just lift it up good.gif

Have used paddock stands on other bike and found them a complete pain in the butt. I would never buy one again:tdown:

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Posted 15 April 2008 - 04:11 pm

once you get the 'nack' its easy enough
i always put the bike in gear and line up the front wheel straight
put the paddock stand to approx where the bike will be once you stand it up straight
use the grabrail or similar with one hand (i use the givi top box as it gives extra leverage)
the other hand on the paddock stand and it just seems to work

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Posted 15 April 2008 - 04:13 pm

QUOTE(brightonTDM @ Sat 12th Apr 2008, 08:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Got a paddock stand yesterday, and whilst my mate was with me it was easy putting his R6 on it. When he'd gone I tried putting the TDM on it on my own and nearly ended up under the bike!!!

Think I might go back to the 'crate and brick' method.

Didn't realise how bloody heavy the TDM is... unsure.gif

Should have got an ABBA stand, but will have to save up for that.


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Posted 15 April 2008 - 07:47 pm

QUOTE(Mandi @ Tue 15th Apr 2008, 12:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
if you have been lubing with the bike in gear.


Mind your fingers !!

It's safer with the engine off.

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Posted 15 April 2008 - 08:23 pm


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Posted 15 April 2008 - 08:24 pm

QUOTE(Mandi @ Tue 15th Apr 2008, 12:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm a girl and I can do it laugh.gif


Nothing like a healthy bit of competition!!! good.gif

I have been practising for about 30 minutes this evening and I have nearly got the hang of it now. Have got the balancing the bike upright bit sussed, I just need to synchronize the 'lift the back of the bike whilst pressing down with foot on the handle of the stand" My feet and brain seem to operate on different wavelengths these days.. unsure.gif unsure.gif

Galilee - he makes it look so simple, I think I might weld a handle on the stand if it makes it THAT easy

Edited by brightonTDM, 15 April 2008 - 08:25 pm.

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Posted 15 April 2008 - 08:46 pm

QUOTE(Jolly Giant @ Tue 15th Apr 2008, 04:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sorry mate but I think the Abba stand is easy to use wether its cos I'm so tall but I can get my TDM up on the Abba in prob less than 2mins, But I can reach over and the bike to put the other side on and do up the bolts then just lift it up good.gif

Have used paddock stands on other bike and found them a complete pain in the butt. I would never buy one again:tdown:

That's OK, JG. I can also set up me ABBA stand in under 2 mins...........but I can put it on the paddock stand in under 20 seconds! laugh.gif tongue.gif
Just get the cups in the right place under the swinger and up she goes! good.gif

Your height is definitely to your advantage; I can't reach over the bike to the clamp at floor level without losing it. So I have to get on it, fasten up, then somehow keep it upright while I get off again. It's a right kerfuffle! laugh.gif But I still like me ABBA, they're a great piece of kit. smile.gif good.gif

Edited by Sparky, 15 April 2008 - 08:48 pm.

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Posted 15 April 2008 - 10:33 pm

the abbas takes 30secs to get the bike on, almost as quick as a paddock stand and far FAR safer sturdier good.gif

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Black 1991 850 MK1, 160k+ miles(ish, best guess really, gave up trying to keep count after 3rd set of clocks and 3rd engine), PilotRoad2 tyres, custom stubby exhaust system, bluespot calipers & goodridge braided hoses with dunlopads, maxton forks, Ohlins shock, kedo handguards, stainless TDM grill, Scottoiler with lubetube & dual nozzle thingy, Givi Wingrack2 with E45 & 2xE36s, renntec crash bars, Autocom with blueteeth & PMR radio, TomTom Rider2, Optimate IIIsp, Bagster tank cover, anti-dazzle coating
to fit : led spotlights, heated grips, new braided lines and rear caliper that actually has bleed nipples
Silver-ish 2003 900, 70k miles, PilotRoad3 front tyre (new@65k) & PR2 rear(new at 69k), Renthal 755 bars with KTM handguards, oxford unheated grips, power commander 3usb, scorpion titanium exhausts, standard screen with vario winglet thingy, stainless grill, oem centre stand, bagster tank cover, givi monokey topplate mounted on grabrail with V46 topbox, Givi PL pannier rails with E21s, crash bungs, mirror extender thingys, Halfords Advanced Laser Blue brillance bulbs, 21w led spotlights, touring scottoiler with leehenty dual nozzle, Autocom with blueteeth & PMR radio, TomTom Rider3 Urban, winter style anti-dazzle coating
to fit : led brake light strip, replacement heated grips

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Posted 16 April 2008 - 08:30 am

QUOTE(brightonTDM @ Tue 15th Apr 2008, 09:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have been practising for about 30 minutes this evening and I have nearly got the hang of it now. Have got the balancing the bike upright bit sussed, I just need to synchronize the 'lift the back of the bike whilst pressing down with foot on the handle of the stand" My feet and brain seem to operate on different wavelengths these days.. unsure.gif unsure.gif


Once you've got weight on the cups you don't need to support the bike and can transfer your efforts to the stand. I always lift mine from the right, so if it does ever manage to get away from me it drops back down on the sidestand. Once the bikes vertical it only needs a hand on the givi rack to keep it ballanced, and a knee by the pillion footpeg in case it starts to come towards me, leaving my left hand to position the stand.

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Posted 16 April 2008 - 05:19 pm

I DID IT!!!!!! yahoo.gif yahoo.gif yahoo.gif

Will have to re-route my Scottoiler hose though as I found the L/H cup clouts the sprocket nuts.
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