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#1 Apache

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Posted 17 December 2017 - 06:47 pm

Finally got round to starting to restore my first 4TX. Started with this [attachment=10581:20171118_111157.jpg] Looks ok from a distance but it's well over 100k so off we go. Currently looks like this [attachment=10582:WP_20171217_14_16_26_Pro.jpg]. Bought various over the past year to get on with it next year but stuck for a decent right mirror or suggestions for a pair of replacements with good vision , 4 exhaust header cylindrical Allen nuts (used 'em restoring another) and a top hat spacer (number 44 in cowling 1 on Fowlers) [attachment=10583:WP_20171217_18_11_55_Pro.jpg] that one no longer available ex factory. Anybody moved on to a niner and got any of the above lying around ? TIA of any info.....

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Posted 17 December 2017 - 07:29 pm

Looks loike ya made a good start!

The later 850 mirrors are def an improvement.
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Posted 17 December 2017 - 07:51 pm

I think item 44 is an M5 wellnut.  Easy to get off ebay if it is.


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Posted 17 December 2017 - 08:50 pm

Looks loike ya made a good start!

The later 850 mirrors are def an improvement.


My TDM world revolves around 96 - 98 dappers before the namby mods. I didn't know later 4tx had different mirrors. I'll have a mooch...thanks

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Posted 17 December 2017 - 08:56 pm

I think item 44 is an M5 wellnut.  Easy to get off ebay if it is.


As with the mirrors I didn't know the screen type fasteners were called well nuts. Not a well nut Studley. It's a stepped metal spacer and NLA from Yamaha. Like a 6mm and an 8mm washer glued back to back. It's been missing for years but I want it right when finished.....

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Posted 17 December 2017 - 09:09 pm

Ah right, I know what you mean, I might one in my TDM 8fiddly jar,  I'll have a look and let you know.


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Posted 18 December 2017 - 01:47 am

Aircooled has fit Tracer mirrors o his mk2 which look very nice

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Posted 11 November 2018 - 12:50 pm

Made some progress finally....decided to swap the old girl to VRC7 paint..sod the known bike paint suppliers and they're prices. I gave a panel from my VRC7 4TX2 and they matched it up...probably be a couple or three years finishing it but progress at least.[attachment=11610:20180307_100959.jpg][attachment=11611:20181111_123506.jpg][attachment=11611:20181111_123506.jpg][attachment=11613:20181111_123537.jpg]

Any suggestions for decrudding a 112000 miles in all weather 4TX engine to a clean enough standard for painting ? Reluctant to strip it as it's in good order..

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Posted 11 November 2018 - 01:03 pm

Never done a bike engine before but for a car I did: 

pressure wash the main gunk off.

Degrease to remove the thin film of grease left

Remove flaking paint and repair damaged areas

Prep for paint



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Posted 11 November 2018 - 01:04 pm

Wow! You're a trained painter ? What kind of equipment are you using ?


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Posted 11 November 2018 - 01:25 pm

Never done a bike engine before but for a car I did: 
pressure wash the main gunk off.
Degrease to remove the thin film of grease left
Remove flaking paint and repair damaged areas
Prep for paint


Similar thinking TKH...cheers

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Posted 11 November 2018 - 01:36 pm

Wow! You're a trained painter ? What kind of equipment are you using ?


Never painted before Bjorge. Auto elec by trade so I know lots of guys with empty weekend workshops. I just talked a lot and listened more to the advice of a painter I know. Preparation is everything. I bought a 45 quid Spray gun from Screwfix and practiced for a while with metallic and lacquer. Once you've worked out the gun settings for a given product the paint application was quite easy. Prepping is key. The frame took 20 hrs to prep after being blasted....wish I'd had a go years ago.

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Posted 11 November 2018 - 01:57 pm

Very nice Apache, looks good :good:


Bigred mk1 R1 Calipers- Braided lines- Givi wing rack-Crash bungs- Hi vis bullets-PR2's- and a hoot to ride.

Quad 900 Silver Laser duo tech pipes-Scott oiler-Engine crash bars- Radiator mounted see me ring LED's-Datatool system 3 alarm -Centre stand- Extender fender-Renthal bars-Handle bar risers-Mirror extenders-BMW GS Handgaurds-Acumen uprated horn & Nautilus-Stainless steel Radiator guard-Givi wing rack-OEM screen-Yammy touring screen-MRA Vario-MRA Double bubble cut down for fast as fk riding-Tiger screen-Tank protector-Stomp grip panels-Optimate lead   Gone to Heaven  :sorry: 

 

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Posted 11 November 2018 - 06:14 pm

Lookin' good there Apache. :good:


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Posted 12 November 2018 - 04:59 pm

those nuts and top hat look like a parts bin item. My 1987 fz600 uses those.

 

if you google and ebay the part numbers, you usually come up trumps


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Posted 12 November 2018 - 05:19 pm

those nuts and top hat look like a parts bin item. My 1987 fz600 uses those.
 
if you google and ebay the part numbers, you usually come up trumps


You're right Drewpy, that usually works but that top hat spacer isn't out there. Get one cut I suppose. Nuts are available. I'll just have to pay a fiver apiece I guess.

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Posted 12 November 2018 - 05:25 pm

Down to earth with a bump.....showing off my panels to my painter pal feeling overly chuffed with missel and the dirty bustard does this[attachment=11617:20181112_171621.jpg]
And tells me to do the same to every panel all over.
Bit odd to a rookie but apparently when the decals and a coat of clear go on it'll come up gradely 🤔....

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Posted 12 November 2018 - 05:59 pm

Yea it seems counter productive but it seems that's what they do !


Bigred mk1 R1 Calipers- Braided lines- Givi wing rack-Crash bungs- Hi vis bullets-PR2's- and a hoot to ride.

Quad 900 Silver Laser duo tech pipes-Scott oiler-Engine crash bars- Radiator mounted see me ring LED's-Datatool system 3 alarm -Centre stand- Extender fender-Renthal bars-Handle bar risers-Mirror extenders-BMW GS Handgaurds-Acumen uprated horn & Nautilus-Stainless steel Radiator guard-Givi wing rack-OEM screen-Yammy touring screen-MRA Vario-MRA Double bubble cut down for fast as fk riding-Tiger screen-Tank protector-Stomp grip panels-Optimate lead   Gone to Heaven  :sorry: 

 

1991 MK1 in need of some TLC watch this space   :) Sorted and on the Road Mick  :P  :P it's the bike that Jack built  ;) Gone to Heaven  :wub: 

 



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