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#1 James996

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Posted 07 January 2008 - 09:03 am

Hi all,

Currently I have a 04 TDM 900.I plan to change the front rim to a 17 inch rim (Taken from a fazer 1000 02-03 model).

Does it directly fit (using back tdm original brake discs,calipers,bearing,etc) without any mods?

I know a fellow forumer Jolly Giant 1992 tdm using Thunderace front end.

Many thanks. cool.gif

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Posted 07 January 2008 - 12:25 pm

Hi, James 996, welcome to the mad house.. banana.gif


This might be a stupid question but....


WHY ?....... blink.gif

Edited by Geordie Guy, 07 January 2008 - 12:26 pm.

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Posted 07 January 2008 - 12:31 pm

dunno is short answer, not many people have modded the 900 that much
LIAW might know......PAGING STORM wink.gif
QUOTE(Geordie Guy @ Mon 7th Jan 2008, 12:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi, James 996, welcome to the mad house.. banana.gif
This might be a stupid question but....
WHY ?....... blink.gif

why not?
modding is fun cool.gif


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to fit : led spotlights, heated grips, new braided lines and rear caliper that actually has bleed nipples
Silver-ish 2003 900, 70k miles, PilotRoad3 front tyre (new@65k) & PR2 rear(new at 69k), Renthal 755 bars with KTM handguards, oxford unheated grips, power commander 3usb, scorpion titanium exhausts, standard screen with vario winglet thingy, stainless grill, oem centre stand, bagster tank cover, givi monokey topplate mounted on grabrail with V46 topbox, Givi PL pannier rails with E21s, crash bungs, mirror extender thingys, Halfords Advanced Laser Blue brillance bulbs, 21w led spotlights, touring scottoiler with leehenty dual nozzle, Autocom with blueteeth & PMR radio, TomTom Rider3 Urban, winter style anti-dazzle coating
to fit : led brake light strip, replacement heated grips
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Posted 07 January 2008 - 12:43 pm

QUOTE(James996 @ Mon 7th Jan 2008, 10:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi all,

Currently I have a 04 TDM 900.I plan to change the front rim to a 17 inch rim (Taken from a fazer 1000 02-03 model).

Does it directly fit (using back tdm original brake discs,calipers,bearing,etc) without any mods?

I know a fellow forumer Jolly Giant 1992 tdm using Thunderace front end.

Many thanks. cool.gif


here is one of my friend! many parts different!



Edited by jskf16, 07 January 2008 - 12:46 pm.

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Posted 07 January 2008 - 01:22 pm

[quote name='jskf16' date='Mon 7th Jan 2008, 12:28 PM' post='66496']
here is one of my friend! many parts different!


ya but who put the tango machine together as it's forks are fitted upside down !!! ???

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#6 James996

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Posted 07 January 2008 - 04:46 pm

QUOTE(Geordie Guy @ Mon 7th Jan 2008, 01:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi, James 996, welcome to the mad house.. banana.gif This might be a stupid question but....WHY ?....... blink.gif
Thanks for the welcome.I did find alot about the bike from this forum.Hmm...lets see,modding the front to 17 inch will gives me more tires range,brands and best of all,its reversible. wub.gif






QUOTE(jskf16 @ Mon 7th Jan 2008, 01:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
here is one of my friend! many parts different!
Thats a beauty your friend have! Power!17 inch,upside down forks and nice arkas

Edited by James996, 07 January 2008 - 04:47 pm.

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Posted 07 January 2008 - 04:54 pm

QUOTE(Geordie Guy @ Mon 7th Jan 2008, 12:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi, James 996, welcome to the mad house.. banana.gif
This might be a stupid question but....
WHY ?....... blink.gif


The question is not "WHY " but How!! rolleyes.gif

I haven't ridden a 04 TDM but don't think it could be that bad??

I changed mine cos I thought the standard MkI front end was pants blink.gif

Would think your best chances of finding what do's and wot dosn't fit is to find the part No's out of the Fazer and check the TDM's also look for pics to see if they look the same!!

I would only recommend this route if you are good at bodging/ making other parts fit??

I spent about 20 hrs making T/Ace yokes fit TDM...(lock stops, changing steering stem etc)

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Posted 07 January 2008 - 08:06 pm

QUOTE(wicklamulla @ Mon 7th Jan 2008, 03:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
ya but who put the tango machine together as it's forks are fitted upside down !!! ???


HIMSELF!
if i understand your question!

this TDM has many goodies smile.gif

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Posted 08 January 2008 - 01:27 am

QUOTE(Jolly Giant @ Mon 7th Jan 2008, 05:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The question is not "WHY " but How!! rolleyes.gif

I haven't ridden a 04 TDM but don't think it could be that bad??

I changed mine cos I thought the standard MkI front end was pants blink.gif

Would think your best chances of finding what do's and wot dosn't fit is to find the part No's out of the Fazer and check the TDM's also look for pics to see if they look the same!!

I would only recommend this route if you are good at bodging/ making other parts fit??

I spent about 20 hrs making T/Ace yokes fit TDM...(lock stops, changing steering stem etc)


I had checked of both bikes specs and from the looks of them looks like perfect fit.


Anyone here have a different opinion?

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Posted 08 January 2008 - 06:58 pm

QUOTE(James996 @ Tue 8th Jan 2008, 01:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I had checked of both bikes specs and from the looks of them looks like perfect fit.
Anyone here have a different opinion?


I think the fjr 1300 and the fazer 600 / 1000 3 spoke straight ones are a direct replacement IIRC

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Posted 08 January 2008 - 07:46 pm

I'm sure I've seen pics of a 900 with a Fazer Thou front end, dunno if the wheel goes straight in 900 forks though

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Posted 08 January 2008 - 08:36 pm

If you think about this from outside the box...

Why would Yamaha spend millions designing and manurfacturing a front wheel for a R6 and only use it on that model dry.gif

Whilst doing my homework for my front end conversion the T/Ace, T/Cat and the early R6 and R1 all have the same front wheel (part No the same) rolleyes.gif

Same as the calipers but they also use them on TDM's now!!!

Head race bearings shared over about 10 models and not only Yam's belive it or not dry.gif

Look at other models of around the same age??

So do your home work and it should work out ok..... rolleyes.gif

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Posted 09 January 2008 - 05:24 am

QUOTE(Hartside Man @ Tue 8th Jan 2008, 07:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the fjr 1300 and the fazer 600 / 1000 3 spoke straight ones are a direct replacement IIRC



QUOTE(sidestand @ Tue 8th Jan 2008, 08:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm sure I've seen pics of a 900 with a Fazer Thou front end, dunno if the wheel goes straight in 900 forks though



QUOTE(Jolly Giant @ Tue 8th Jan 2008, 09:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If you think about this from outside the box...

Why would Yamaha spend millions designing and manurfacturing a front wheel for a R6 and only use it on that model dry.gif

Whilst doing my homework for my front end conversion the T/Ace, T/Cat and the early R6 and R1 all have the same front wheel (part No the same) rolleyes.gif

Same as the calipers but they also use them on TDM's now!!!

Head race bearings shared over about 10 models and not only Yam's belive it or not dry.gif

Look at other models of around the same age??

So do your home work and it should work out ok..... rolleyes.gif



Many Thanks for the replies/comments,guys.

I will go ahead and try it.

Will post the pictures here when completed.

Cheers.

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Posted 09 January 2008 - 04:48 pm

I reckon your best bet is to buy all your bits off Ebay and set yourself a price and stick too it cos if it dosn't fit you can re-sell them and not lose too much money!!

I paid £54+£10 postage for the T/Ace wheel and disc's and nearly new Hi-Sport tyre! £70+ £10 postage for the forks, yokes and spindle!! cool.gif tongue.gif

So don't rush into it and wait for the bargin!!!

Oh and also ask as many questions as needed about inner bearing sizes, spindle dia and length etc..Found 99% of people on Ebay more than willing to help and those who didn't answer my Q's I didn't bid.. laugh.gif

Hope it work's out and can't wait to see the pic's!!!

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Posted 09 January 2008 - 05:24 pm

QUOTE(Jolly Giant @ Wed 9th Jan 2008, 04:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I reckon your best bet is to buy all your bits off Ebay and set yourself a price and stick too it cos if it dosn't fit you can re-sell them and not lose too much money!!

I paid £54+£10 postage for the T/Ace wheel and disc's and nearly new Hi-Sport tyre! £70+ £10 postage for the forks, yokes and spindle!! cool.gif tongue.gif

So don't rush into it and wait for the bargin!!!

Oh and also ask as many questions as needed about inner bearing sizes, spindle dia and length etc..Found 99% of people on Ebay more than willing to help and those who didn't answer my Q's I didn't bid.. laugh.gif

Hope it work's out and can't wait to see the pic's!!!

wot he said wifgeni.gif good advice good.gif

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Black 1991 850 MK1, 160k+ miles(ish, best guess really, gave up trying to keep count after 3rd set of clocks and 3rd engine), PilotRoad2 tyres, custom stubby exhaust system, bluespot calipers & goodridge braided hoses with dunlopads, maxton forks, Ohlins shock, kedo handguards, stainless TDM grill, Scottoiler with lubetube & dual nozzle thingy, Givi Wingrack2 with E45 & 2xE36s, renntec crash bars, Autocom with blueteeth & PMR radio, TomTom Rider2, Optimate IIIsp, Bagster tank cover, anti-dazzle coating
to fit : led spotlights, heated grips, new braided lines and rear caliper that actually has bleed nipples
Silver-ish 2003 900, 70k miles, PilotRoad3 front tyre (new@65k) & PR2 rear(new at 69k), Renthal 755 bars with KTM handguards, oxford unheated grips, power commander 3usb, scorpion titanium exhausts, standard screen with vario winglet thingy, stainless grill, oem centre stand, bagster tank cover, givi monokey topplate mounted on grabrail with V46 topbox, Givi PL pannier rails with E21s, crash bungs, mirror extender thingys, Halfords Advanced Laser Blue brillance bulbs, 21w led spotlights, touring scottoiler with leehenty dual nozzle, Autocom with blueteeth & PMR radio, TomTom Rider3 Urban, winter style anti-dazzle coating
to fit : led brake light strip, replacement heated grips
current rides : TDM850 3vd/mk1=tourer&scratcher, TRX850=weekend twisty toy, 2003 TDM900=commuter, 2005 TDM900=unmolested.  Gone but not forgotton : XTZ750=overland touring toy, GS500e, GS125
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Posted 09 January 2008 - 05:49 pm

QUOTE(TonyDevil @ Wed 9th Jan 2008, 05:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
wot he said wifgeni.gif good advice good.gif


OMG Someone agreed with me

This is a FIRST..... wub.gif

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Posted 09 January 2008 - 05:56 pm

i had a mission to get 2x 125cc bikes (not scooters) for a couple of friends to learn on
spent a few weeks looking around and ended up spending £600 for 2 bikes (inc all on the road costs)
1 is a 6month old CG125 & the other is a 4year old GN125 (admittedly both are chinese copies, but decent bikes for them to start with)

be patient, especially with ebay, there is ALWAYS another part or good deal around the corner good.gif

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My TDM :
Black 1991 850 MK1, 160k+ miles(ish, best guess really, gave up trying to keep count after 3rd set of clocks and 3rd engine), PilotRoad2 tyres, custom stubby exhaust system, bluespot calipers & goodridge braided hoses with dunlopads, maxton forks, Ohlins shock, kedo handguards, stainless TDM grill, Scottoiler with lubetube & dual nozzle thingy, Givi Wingrack2 with E45 & 2xE36s, renntec crash bars, Autocom with blueteeth & PMR radio, TomTom Rider2, Optimate IIIsp, Bagster tank cover, anti-dazzle coating
to fit : led spotlights, heated grips, new braided lines and rear caliper that actually has bleed nipples
Silver-ish 2003 900, 70k miles, PilotRoad3 front tyre (new@65k) & PR2 rear(new at 69k), Renthal 755 bars with KTM handguards, oxford unheated grips, power commander 3usb, scorpion titanium exhausts, standard screen with vario winglet thingy, stainless grill, oem centre stand, bagster tank cover, givi monokey topplate mounted on grabrail with V46 topbox, Givi PL pannier rails with E21s, crash bungs, mirror extender thingys, Halfords Advanced Laser Blue brillance bulbs, 21w led spotlights, touring scottoiler with leehenty dual nozzle, Autocom with blueteeth & PMR radio, TomTom Rider3 Urban, winter style anti-dazzle coating
to fit : led brake light strip, replacement heated grips
current rides : TDM850 3vd/mk1=tourer&scratcher, TRX850=weekend twisty toy, 2003 TDM900=commuter, 2005 TDM900=unmolested.  Gone but not forgotton : XTZ750=overland touring toy, GS500e, GS125
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Posted 09 January 2008 - 06:01 pm

QUOTE(Jolly Giant @ Wed 9th Jan 2008, 05:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I reckon your best bet is to buy all your bits off Ebay and set yourself a price and stick too it cos if it dosn't fit you can re-sell them and not lose too much money!!

I paid £54+£10 postage for the T/Ace wheel and disc's and nearly new Hi-Sport tyre! £70+ £10 postage for the forks, yokes and spindle!! cool.gif tongue.gif

So don't rush into it and wait for the bargin!!!

Oh and also ask as many questions as needed about inner bearing sizes, spindle dia and length etc..Found 99% of people on Ebay more than willing to help and those who didn't answer my Q's I didn't bid.. laugh.gif

Hope it work's out and can't wait to see the pic's!!!


You really did your research well.Good deals from e-bay.

I am staying in Singapore so shipping postage might be high to here from UK.So I am hoping that I can use back as much stuffs from the 18 inch.
I brought the 17 inch rim (just the rim,no discs or bearing) from a local guy for S$150 and just got a quote from a local shop for BT 021 for S$128 plus install,balancing to the 17 inch.

Keeping my finger crossed that it will work!

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Posted 09 January 2008 - 07:59 pm

QUOTE(TonyDevil @ Wed 9th Jan 2008, 05:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i had a mission to get 2x 125cc bikes (not scooters) for a couple of friends to learn on
spent a few weeks looking around and ended up spending £600 for 2 bikes (inc all on the road costs)
1 is a 6month old CG125 & the other is a 4year old GN125 (admittedly both are chinese copies, but decent bikes for them to start with)

be patient, especially with ebay, there is ALWAYS another part or good deal around the corner good.gif

I've just finished my mission to buy an entire R1 front end to fit to a TRX, now I just need to buy the TRX unsure.gif

I got the whole lot for under £300, although it's taken almost a year. Anyone have a cheap TRX for sale? smile.gif

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Posted 09 January 2008 - 08:36 pm

QUOTE(Emmett @ Wed 9th Jan 2008, 07:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I've just finished my mission to buy an entire R1 front end to fit to a TRX, now I just need to buy the TRX unsure.gif

I got the whole lot for under £300, although it's taken almost a year. Anyone have a cheap TRX for sale? smile.gif

i missed a crash damaged one today that went for £375....gutted

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My TDM :
Black 1991 850 MK1, 160k+ miles(ish, best guess really, gave up trying to keep count after 3rd set of clocks and 3rd engine), PilotRoad2 tyres, custom stubby exhaust system, bluespot calipers & goodridge braided hoses with dunlopads, maxton forks, Ohlins shock, kedo handguards, stainless TDM grill, Scottoiler with lubetube & dual nozzle thingy, Givi Wingrack2 with E45 & 2xE36s, renntec crash bars, Autocom with blueteeth & PMR radio, TomTom Rider2, Optimate IIIsp, Bagster tank cover, anti-dazzle coating
to fit : led spotlights, heated grips, new braided lines and rear caliper that actually has bleed nipples
Silver-ish 2003 900, 70k miles, PilotRoad3 front tyre (new@65k) & PR2 rear(new at 69k), Renthal 755 bars with KTM handguards, oxford unheated grips, power commander 3usb, scorpion titanium exhausts, standard screen with vario winglet thingy, stainless grill, oem centre stand, bagster tank cover, givi monokey topplate mounted on grabrail with V46 topbox, Givi PL pannier rails with E21s, crash bungs, mirror extender thingys, Halfords Advanced Laser Blue brillance bulbs, 21w led spotlights, touring scottoiler with leehenty dual nozzle, Autocom with blueteeth & PMR radio, TomTom Rider3 Urban, winter style anti-dazzle coating
to fit : led brake light strip, replacement heated grips
current rides : TDM850 3vd/mk1=tourer&scratcher, TRX850=weekend twisty toy, 2003 TDM900=commuter, 2005 TDM900=unmolested.  Gone but not forgotton : XTZ750=overland touring toy, GS500e, GS125
If a strange looking truck driver honks at you & gives you the thumbs up, its could be me  :good:

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