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#21 Favs

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Posted 24 May 2020 - 11:37 am

Hyperflash with the normal/standard flasher unit and 21w (possibly at each indicator)? - that's what should work with the resistors - as drewpy says, the LED flasher unit shouldn't need any extra resistance


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Posted 24 May 2020 - 12:00 pm

Ok, so defo dont need the LED flasher, thats ok.

But yep, hyperflash with oem relay unit and 21w resistor at each indicator.

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Posted 24 May 2020 - 12:05 pm

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Have you measured the resistance across the resistor to check it is actually functioning? The job you have done should be working. I'm looking for a possible fault now.


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Posted 24 May 2020 - 12:35 pm

Yip - all red ones showing 0.10 and all yellow ones 0.26 - As I'd expect.

Could this be something to do with the diode kit I fitted under the dash for the tell tale?

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Posted 24 May 2020 - 12:40 pm

My oem flasher relay is a 3 pin, and I did notice on wemoto, replacement ones for 3vd were only 2. Anything in that? Just another thought.

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Posted 24 May 2020 - 12:41 pm

With the standard flasher unit, Led indicators and 21w resistors, there should be no need to modify anything else.


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Posted 24 May 2020 - 12:43 pm

Ok - I'll undo the diode and see what happens.

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Posted 24 May 2020 - 01:02 pm

Undoing the diode kit then means I get no flashing, no lighting up and voltage on both sides all of the time.

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Posted 24 May 2020 - 01:14 pm

The only thing left to try is to return it all to standard - check it works properly and then replace one indicator at a time with LED and 21w resistor - if that works then add another LED indicator to the same side of the bike and test again. If the  standard setup doesn't work then there is a fault either in the wiring or the flasher unit.


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Posted 24 May 2020 - 01:17 pm

Is there any help in the instructions that came with them?

 

If not, I agree with favs, back to stock and change one at a time and see.


If that fails, try contacting the supplier?


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Posted 24 May 2020 - 01:48 pm

Its getting close to giving up with the whole idea and going back to a new set of incandesent lamps. No instructions supplied TKH, "plug and play"

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Posted 24 May 2020 - 02:04 pm

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Try to use the LEDs you won't regret their long life or additional brightness :good:


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Posted 24 May 2020 - 02:08 pm

I know, thats one of the biggest reasons for changing them, and I dont like giving up on things!

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Posted 25 May 2020 - 12:09 pm

So, I went out this morn with another couple ideas to try, and I think I made a step of progress. I wired the 21w resistors like this:

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Doing this, I did manage to get the FL to tick at the correct rate, but the lamps didn't flash, and neither did the tell tale. Unplugging one of the resistor wires brought the tell tale light back and also increased the FL tick. I also tried this with and without the diode kit and the behaviour was the same. Does this open another line of thought or ideas?

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Posted 25 May 2020 - 02:14 pm

So, I went out this morn with another couple ideas to try, and I think I made a step of progress. I wired the 21w resistors like this:

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Doing this, I did manage to get the FL to tick at the correct rate, but the lamps didn't flash, and neither did the tell tale. Unplugging one of the resistor wires brought the tell tale light back and also increased the FL tick. I also tried this with and without the diode kit and the behaviour was the same. Does this open another line of thought or ideas?

 

Tried swapping LED polarity ?


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Posted 25 May 2020 - 02:46 pm

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2 lamps fitted on one side and one resistor  = no flash?


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Posted 25 May 2020 - 03:17 pm

 
Tried swapping LED polarity ?


How does one do that Bjorge?

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2 lamps fitted on one side and one resistor  = no flash?


2 lamps fitted on one side and two resistors = no flashy, but FL ticking at correct speed.

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Posted 25 May 2020 - 05:22 pm

So, I went out this morn with another couple ideas to try, and I think I made a step of progress. I wired the 21w resistors like this:

20200525_130158_zps1gdree23.jpg

Doing this, I did manage to get the FL to tick at the correct rate, but the lamps didn't flash, and neither did the tell tale. Unplugging one of the resistor wires brought the tell tale light back and also increased the FL tick. I also tried this with and without the diode kit and the behaviour was the same. Does this open another line of thought or ideas?

Have you tried unplugging the +ve on one side and the -ve on the other side so that you're basically bridging the two wires ?


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Posted 25 May 2020 - 05:35 pm

I haveny Studders, I'll give that a go too!

 
Tried swapping LED polarity ?


I get it now Bjorge, I haven't tried it, but will give it a go. I have to this point assumed that red was pos and black was neg, but you never know! (They have lit up before though)

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Posted 25 May 2020 - 05:44 pm

Here's what I did Butch.  http://www.carpe-tdm...stor#entry81387


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