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#1 erny

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Posted 20 November 2010 - 08:20 am

Lousy bastards.

Theiving scrotes have struck me.
I woke up at 7 this morning and looked out the window to check on the weather, as usual.
Unusally my double gates were open, I've run to the back window and the shed doors are bust also.
I've done the 999 thing and gone straight to where the scrotes have left the bike...
about 200 yards away between 2 cemeteries.
Theres a single track footpath that cuts inbetween the two and the bike was upright on its sidestand.
The've bust my lock and cut the wires, but no other damage, fortunatly.
Must be local scrotes. They left the bike beside a gap in the fencing, which they must have used to scarper.

I know why it wouldn't start, but won't post it here just in case, you understand.

The dibble wanted me to wait for CSI to arrive, but not having my morning coffee, I told them sod that.
Time to upgrade security.
Anyone know where the Law is regarding setting up my shed to deliver a 110v shock upon tampering?
Apparently no one ever died from a 110v shock
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Posted 20 November 2010 - 08:30 am

QUOTE(erny @ Sat 20th Nov 2010, 08:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Lousy bastards.

Theiving scrotes have struck me.
I woke up at 7 this morning and looked out the window to check on the weather, as usual.
Unusally my double gates were open, I've run to the back window and the shed doors are bust also.
I've done the 999 thing and gone straight to where the scrotes have left the bike...
about 200 yards away between 2 cemeteries.
Theres a single track footpath that cuts inbetween the two and the bike was upright on its sidestand.
The've bust my lock and cut the wires, but no other damage, fortunatly.
Must be local scrotes. They left the bike beside a gap in the fencing, which they must have used to scarper.

I know why it wouldn't start, but won't post it here just in case, you understand.

The dibble wanted me to wait for CSI to arrive, but not having my morning coffee, I told them sod that.
Time to upgrade security.
Anyone know where the Law is regarding setting up my shed to deliver a 110v shock upon tampering?
Apparently no one ever died from a 110v shock


Bastards, but at least on the bright side, they didn't get far and there's not too much damage. I know it's a pain in the arse, but the alternative is much worse. It could have ended up in flames. Don't think the powers that be would take too kindly too your proposed shock treatment though.
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Posted 20 November 2010 - 08:46 am

Sad news mate, why bother with 110v Id go stright to the mains. They knew where the bike was, and you need to increase defence systems as those shits will be back


get a disc lock, I have never heard about one being removed, anyone?
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Posted 20 November 2010 - 09:39 am

QUOTE(CatsBum @ Sat 20th Nov 2010, 09:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sad news mate, why bother with 110v Id go stright to the mains. They knew where the bike was, and you need to increase defence systems as those shits will be back
get a disc lock, I have never heard about one being removed, anyone?
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Posted 20 November 2010 - 10:51 am

Ok, disk lock with sensor alarm

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Posted 20 November 2010 - 11:08 am

OMG its gonna take me 20 mins to unlock my bike , by the time I've finished.

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Posted 20 November 2010 - 11:32 am

Sorry to hear about that Erny.
My dad lives in M22 and had his moped stolen 3 times in a year so he gave up in the end.
It's a blessing in some ways that the education system is so poor these days that these scum can't figure out some simple wiring,or even look it up on the net cos they can't read, when they took dads they just twisted all the wires together without even stripping the ends.
As for the 110v, that's not true.
It's got nothing to do with volts, it's amps that kill, in fact not even a whole amp, 6 milliamps across the heart is enough to kill.
I have taken dozens of 240volt and recently a 17000 volt jolt but always under as safe as possible conditions.



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Posted 20 November 2010 - 11:53 am

Sorry to hear that Erny, it's a horrible feelin' when you realise yer steeds gone.

I'd spend some of that 150 recovery fee you saved, on the shed. If they can get at the bike, they'll prolly be able to take it.
Have any of yer neighbours got a camera that might have caught 'em wheelin' it off ?

Oh yeah, if anyone advises you to stop bikin' and move to a nicer part of the country, they're probably on drugs rolleyes.gif

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Posted 20 November 2010 - 12:03 pm

An alarm would help make you aware what they're up to.

Be careful about electrifying stuff, you could get prosecuted... that really would ruin your day!

Two disc locks and an alarm would slow them down and a baseball bat to re-educate them!

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Posted 20 November 2010 - 01:52 pm

http://www.airsoftwo...p-mine-12g.html
that will scare the shite out the little B's
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Posted 20 November 2010 - 02:26 pm

oooohh, I like that

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Posted 20 November 2010 - 05:25 pm

HAHA that's feck em!

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Posted 20 November 2010 - 05:46 pm

no no no no no the best way is find the little faggots tie em up by the testicles TO YOU BIKE AND RIDE OFF they wont like bikes after that

plus itll save them getting some poor teenage girl getting preggarz and draining our funds


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keep it off the tarmac and in the green

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Posted 20 November 2010 - 06:42 pm

http://www.airsoftwo...p-mine-12g.html

Especially if you fill the cartridge with chile powder.

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Posted 20 November 2010 - 07:44 pm

Ern,
.....is there a window, pref upstairs that has a view of the shed or backyard?
If so you could consider installing a webcam that runs all the time to PC or HDD.
It may be a deterent, but if not you will be able to burn a disk of the crime and hand it to the Bill
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Posted 20 November 2010 - 11:12 pm

I'm liking the airsoft booby trap....
the wonders you could expose a scrote to with an exploding cartridge ph34r.gif
trouble is, I'd forget.....

*update*
the next street up had 2 attempted car thefts, one with just the door bent back, still locked. The other was made a right mess of.
Some one mentioned it happened around 4 a.m.
... but how did they know????? dun dun derrr
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Posted 21 November 2010 - 07:48 am

Talkin' about traps laugh.gif


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Posted 21 November 2010 - 08:15 am

Is that a skidoo in there? More dinosaur than bear trap ohmy.gif

If you're still in the UK you'll probably find the shotgun blanks are illegal to use on burglars - you'll get some poor chav suing you for damaging his sensitive hearing. May as well be hung for a sheep and put a real shotgun shell in there. Obviously you'll need to point it away from your bike.
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Posted 21 November 2010 - 08:25 am

QUOTE(steveearwig @ Sun 21st Nov 2010, 10:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Is that a skidoo in there? More dinosaur than bear trap ohmy.gif

If you're still in the UK you'll probably find the shotgun blanks are illegal to use on burglars - you'll get some poor chav suing you for damaging his sensitive hearing. May as well be hung for a sheep and put a real shotgun shell in there. Obviously you'll need to point it away from your bike.

I saw a TV trailer recently about traffic cops and what they really think about motorist. I did't watch it. I have seen to many reality tv shows lately, full of people on there for self publicity. Anyhow if I had the option of driving around in a volvo all day and moaning about motorists or walking around the streets at 4.00am catching theives, I know which I would choose


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Posted 21 November 2010 - 10:21 am

I can't be a million miles from Erny. I posted this in the Thieving Bastards section.....

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Having had a well locked up TDM900 stolen in 2008 I gave a lot of thought to security....

There are two sorts of thieves; 1. Joy riders, who have limited means, are opportunists and will nick anything. 2. Pros who go equipped and have a network for disposal of the bike - whole for export or as parts through breakers and Evilbay etc. The first sort are local and often stupidly persistent. The pros are well equipped, well organised and efficient (don't I know it).

Who ever you are up against whatever you do should buy time, preferable away from the bike. We've all heard the horror stories of bikes being vandalised because the thieves failed to bust the locks. One poster on here got his house broken into for the chipped key and they took his lid and leathers into the bargain. So keeping them way is the first best defence. So with all this in mind and my own sorry experience I figured on this:

Keep the scum away from the bike as long as possible. So I really beefed up the shed, with a lining and bracing and built a serious t-bar lock across the doors. I also do without windows, to frustrate nosey scrotes. Yes it could be opened but it will take time, make a deal of noise and they'll be visible while doing it. Thing is once they are in the garage/shed they are out of sight and the noise won't attract attention.

2nd line of defence are the ground anchors and three Almax chains with quality padlocks as well as disc locks. I also take the seats off the bikes and keep them in the house. So even if they get the bikes, riding them won't be comfortable. All chain manufacturers make lots of claims but after a look at Almax's website I went for them. They can all be cut..... eventually but if you watch the Almax video some are clearly made of cheese.

Alarms are great as long as YOU are within earshot - you can't count on anyone else taking any notice - even friendly neighbours might not twig its yours, especially if you live somewhere like me where car and house alarms go off all the time. I have an alarm and for me its primary function is to deafen intruders, if it attracts the neighbours attention that's a bonus.

Trackers/immobilisers are all well and good but the bike has already gone, similarly datatag and smartwater - unless you'd really like to count on the thieves leaving your bike because it has smartwater etc. CCTV is useful - it may alert you to someone checking the lie of the land - but ultimately all only come into play once the bike has gone.

And my keys and the spares and bike paperwork are kept in a small safe that will take some finding, and looking for that means getting into the house - more time and more noise. And of course they don't know they looking for a safe.

Sure it's a bit of a pain to get a bike out - I don't commute on mine so it's not the end of the world and any security only works if you always use it, so always always always lock it up.

It's also worth bearing in mind if the scum really want it they will take it - the best you can do is try make it not worth the effort. I think I was unlucky with the TDM - it was a pro job but I have a suspicion they were anticipating something more tasty to be away with - not that they'd leave it having gone to the trouble of breaking in.


Lots of locks is a PITA but specialist locksmith can supply quality kit all keyed alike, which makes life easier. CCTV is okay but as discussed in another thread unless you've complied with certain regulations - correct signage etc! - it can't be used as evidence. As I said in the other thread the insurance co hinted that another theft would result in a refusal to insure at the address so there can't be too many locks

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