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#21 Snowbird

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Posted 15 May 2020 - 05:35 am

Throttle position sensor, the 9er had an issue with them, sorry don't know specifics.

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Posted 15 May 2020 - 08:26 am

Believe me Im gonna push for the new version.
But in any case I get your point and Im taking it seriously.

 

My guess is they only sell the new one


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Posted 15 May 2020 - 08:29 am

 

My guess is they only sell the new one

 

Shame on Yamaha if they don't....



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Posted 15 May 2020 - 10:17 am

They only sell the superseded one - hence the different colour. If funds are low then go for a used one from 2005 onwards with the longer body otherwise risk a wrecked engine. I'd be surprised if a dealer will give you a freebie if the change was 15 years ago -  Yours should have had the TPS changed to one with a better dust seal (dirt got into the sweeper arm and confused the ECU) From memory, the frame number plate should be marked with a centre punch if it had been done


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Posted 15 May 2020 - 10:38 am

Well, I've measured the one on the bike and it is about 38mm which makes it the old tensioner and probably the one it left the factory with.

 

If they old one is no longer made, then problem solved as far as the dealer is concerned although I will ask them to check it is the same part number as the new one (lifted from JBX's info page) just to be sure.



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Posted 15 May 2020 - 10:39 am

As Lee Henty pointed out elsewhere. if you take the end bolt from the tensioner out and insert a screwdriver in the bore, you can try taping the plunger to encourage it to slide out a bit more to take up any slack, should it be that the tensioner is sticking


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Posted 15 May 2020 - 02:43 pm

Take out 6mm (10mm AF) end bolt. Insert small flat bladed 4mm screwdriver clockwise to right loosens tensioner, anticlockwise to the left tightens it. Only tighten a very small amount 1/16 of a turn. Ideally, set the engine as per JBX page to remove. To put it back you need a T shaped tool to lock it back, tighten mount bolts pull out T tool, it will whizz out to tension chain.

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Posted 15 May 2020 - 06:27 pm

Good day Mates,,
53k+ miles on my 92 Mk1.
Original CCT I believe.
Considering updating to a manual aftermarket tensioner if I can find one 🤔.
I definitely don't need a failure at this time.
Too rare in the States for that. I will gladly order from the UK/EU if anything is available.
Any information or comments on converting the original to a manual is gladly welcome. PaydayGabe in beautiful Boulder City Nv. USA.

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Posted 15 May 2020 - 09:56 pm

Good day Mates,,
53k+ miles on my 92 Mk1.
Original CCT I believe.
Considering updating to a manual aftermarket tensioner if I can find one .
I definitely don't need a failure at this time.
Too rare in the States for that. I will gladly order from the UK/EU if anything is available.
Any information or comments on converting the original to a manual is gladly welcome. PaydayGabe in beautiful Boulder City Nv. USA.

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Posted 15 May 2020 - 11:34 pm

They kind of look like a slab of aluminium with a coach bolt through to me, wish I'd thought of that for £30 a go. :lol:


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Posted 16 May 2020 - 04:29 am

How often does a manual tensioner need adjusting?

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Posted 16 May 2020 - 08:22 am

They kind of look like a slab of aluminium with a coach bolt through to me, wish I'd thought of that for £30 a go. :lol:

I'm sure a standard Camchain body could be modified to accept a bolt


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Posted 16 May 2020 - 09:05 am

One quick fix if in a tight spot is to fit a marginally longer bolt in the old style body. I guess in a way its a manual tensioner of sorts.

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Posted 16 May 2020 - 12:14 pm

One quick fix if in a tight spot is to fit a marginally longer bolt in the old style body. I guess in a way its a manual tensioner of sorts.

I was just thinking about if that works. Sounds like a fix


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Posted 16 May 2020 - 03:01 pm

I was just thinking about if that works. Sounds like a fix

 

If it's any reassurance, it's not my idea!  It's the quick fix if you're on the road from the JBX resource.



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Posted 17 May 2020 - 11:25 am

They only sell the superseded one - hence the different colour. If funds are low then go for a used one from 2005 onwards with the longer body otherwise risk a wrecked engine. I'd be surprised if a dealer will give you a freebie if the change was 15 years ago -  Yours should have had the TPS changed to one with a better dust seal (dirt got into the sweeper arm and confused the ECU) From memory, the frame number plate should be marked with a centre punch if it had been done

 

 

Al the pic. on the previous page has me confused and i thought it may be incorrect as i thought the long bodied CCT was the new uprated one?  


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Posted 17 May 2020 - 02:31 pm

New one does have a longer body/barrel Wick. ;)


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Posted 17 May 2020 - 04:11 pm

And a stronger spring. Operating principal is the same.
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Posted 17 May 2020 - 10:45 pm

New one does have a longer body/barrel Wick. ;)


So is the info on that pic on the previous page incorrect?

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Posted 18 May 2020 - 07:03 am

That picture comes from the JBX website.  Measuring from the gasket face to the top where the lock screw is used, the longer (38mm) body is the old version, and the shorter (34mm) is the newer version. So externally the difference is not easy to spot without calipers, but internally (inside the engine) they are very different.




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