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Posted 26 November 2007 - 07:46 pm

I was on my way home today, stopped at a red light, and once it went green I rode on.......about 5 foot. I had to brake hard to avoid a cyclist who broke the red light. This caused the car driver behind me to hit me from behind, very gently, I don't blame the car driver, cars don't stop as quick as bikes, and she didn't do any damage. The cyclist never stopped, or apologised, or even aknowledged his mistake.

Normaly I'm more cautious at traffic lights, but these particular lights have cameras at them, so drivers never break them, and I was 100% sure that the cars on both sides had stopped. The cyclist was flashed by the camera, but what good will that do?

From what I understand, because the car hit me from behind, she would be responsible if there had been any damage, but is that fair? The poor lady was on the brink of tears, and had a child in the back of the car. I'm beginning to think that bicycles or cyclists should be licensed, if they were tracable, ie a registration number, then they could be tracked down in the event of an accident.



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Posted 26 November 2007 - 07:55 pm

I agree with that Emmett. It wouldn't be before time either.

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Posted 26 November 2007 - 08:08 pm

QUOTE(Emmett @ Mon 26th Nov 2007, 07:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I was on my way home today, stopped at a red light, and once it went green I rode on.......about 5 foot. I had to brake hard to avoid a cyclist who broke the red light. This caused the car driver behind me to hit me from behind, very gently, I don't blame the car driver, cars don't stop as quick as bikes, and she didn't do any damage. The cyclist never stopped, or apologised, or even aknowledged his mistake.

Normaly I'm more cautious at traffic lights, but these particular lights have cameras at them, so drivers never break them, and I was 100% sure that the cars on both sides had stopped. The cyclist was flashed by the camera, but what good will that do?

From what I understand, because the car hit me from behind, she would be responsible if there had been any damage, but is that fair? The poor lady was on the brink of tears, and had a child in the back of the car. I'm beginning to think that bicycles or cyclists should be licensed, if they were tracable, ie a registration number, then they could be tracked down in the event of an accident.


That must've been a bit messy............. blink.gif

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Posted 26 November 2007 - 08:10 pm

QUOTE(dandywarhol @ Mon 26th Nov 2007, 07:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That must've been a bit messy............. blink.gif

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Posted 26 November 2007 - 08:17 pm

How did she manage to drive in that condition? She must have very long arms

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Posted 26 November 2007 - 08:17 pm

QUOTE(danceswithmopeds @ Mon 26th Nov 2007, 08:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
How did she manage to drive in that condition? She must have very long arms

See my last post.

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Posted 26 November 2007 - 09:10 pm

QUOTE(Emmett @ Mon 26th Nov 2007, 08:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
See my last post.



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Posted 26 November 2007 - 10:30 pm

I agree. Ban them then hang them wink.gif

They are a damn nuicance and take up far too much space. When driving the artic the worse thing on the road to meet is a cycle. They are too slow, take up to much room, unpredictable and I have to slow right down and stay behind them until I can pass by them without knocking them off !! And they NEVER pull over or stop . I followed this twat for nearly 3 miles before I could get past even though we passed two layby's the cunt never pulled over


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Posted 26 November 2007 - 11:25 pm

happens at EVERY set of lights up town

I prefer to take aim and open the throttle now, ignorant f*ckwits

the pedestrians who walk out without bothering to even look at road/lights etc are even better

my favourite was the cyclist who ran a red light & just missed t-boning me
then started to have a pop at me "and my kind, u f*cking bikers are all the same, wanker"
before riding off...

I sat there slightly gobsmacked blink.gif


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Posted 27 November 2007 - 12:06 am

QUOTE(Emmett @ Mon 26th Nov 2007, 09:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm beginning to think that bicycles or cyclists should be licensed, if they were tracable, ie a registration number, then they could be tracked down in the event of an accident.


Yeah, and pedestrians. Especially them bloody kids that run all over the road when they come out of school. Bloody nuisance! Should have electronic shock collars to stop 'em running in the road when the green man ain't flashing. And horses! Let me tell ya. No bloody lights, no bloody road tax, crap everywhere and them little girls riding them have no responsibility. And them bloody tractors! Shouldn't be allowed on the road. 15 mile a bloody hour. You can't see past 'em cos of that trailer overloaded with hay for the bloody horses. And they never indicate, like they know what it means, just turn right right in front of ya. ranting.gif


















Next time don't brake so hard. Your cyclist will stop when he hits the floor. wink.gif

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Posted 27 November 2007 - 09:00 am

S'funny how we expect everyone to tolerate us on M.bikes. But don't seem much tolerance for others in this thread. rolleyes.gif
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Posted 27 November 2007 - 09:12 am

QUOTE(dapleb @ Tue 27th Nov 2007, 08:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
S'funny how we expect everyone to tolerate us on M.bikes. But don't seem much tolerance for others in this thread. rolleyes.gif

i agree and i see this kind of activity most days from cyclists rolleyes.gif
this topic is just a rant, taken in that context and its not a problem good.gif

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Posted 27 November 2007 - 09:19 am

QUOTE(dapleb @ Tue 27th Nov 2007, 08:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
S'funny how we expect everyone to tolerate us on M.bikes. But don't seem much tolerance for others in this thread. rolleyes.gif


I like to think I give everyone a fair crack o'the whip, and tend to only loose my tolerance for others after they demonstrate a huge lack of tolerance towards me

or demonstrate crass stupidity on a persistant basis


cyclists and pedestrians persistantly demonstate both on a daily basis in London
Done: Homo sap navigation/ twisty thing on bars to make it go vroom/ grabby thing to make it stop (in front of twisty thing)/ 'leccy things front and rear to make it glow at night/ Sucky + drippy oiler thing to keep chains moist (!!) / Laser Pro Stock Race pipes / bleeding ear drums (see previous mod)
To do: Educate homo sap nav system to operate twisty + grabby things/ get ear plugs

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Posted 27 November 2007 - 01:33 pm

QUOTE(jht @ Tue 27th Nov 2007, 09:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I like to think I give everyone a fair crack o'the whip



Yeah but it means either learning to use the whip left handed or letting go of the throttle & brake. rotflmmfao.gif

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Posted 27 November 2007 - 02:25 pm

No problems at all with bicyclist here... Have no problems with cars either when I'm on my bicycle... no clue where you're talking about. The only place it can get crowded is on nice summer days on old twisty dikes, too many bikes and motorbikes. But since the folks with money that built big villas next to them are bothered with the noise some bikes make, they just close them for all motorcycles, so that's solved unsure.gif .
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Posted 27 November 2007 - 04:25 pm

A cyclist at Oxford jumped a red, ended up never see a red again.

He got run over by a bin truck and killed himself.

I have seen a lot of cyclists jumping on and off pavement and road like riding on thier own private land but never seen enough police holding the law.
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Posted 27 November 2007 - 04:29 pm

QUOTE(dapleb @ Tue 27th Nov 2007, 08:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
S'funny how we expect everyone to tolerate us on M.bikes. But don't seem much tolerance for others in this thread. rolleyes.gif

I wasn't trying to suggest all cyclists are dangerous, or careless, I just think that if a cyclist causes an accident it's impossible to track them down, I think there should be a registration type system, and a compulsory basic training. They are road users and should be held just as responsible as the rest of us for their actions.

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Posted 27 November 2007 - 05:11 pm


Cycling proficiency?

What about pedestrians, should they undergo training and registration aswell?


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Posted 27 November 2007 - 06:43 pm

QUOTE(Emmett @ Tue 27th Nov 2007, 05:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I wasn't trying to suggest all cyclists are dangerous, or careless, I just think that if a cyclist causes an accident it's impossible to track them down, I think there should be a registration type system, and a compulsory basic training. They are road users and should be held just as responsible as the rest of us for their actions.


All car drivers should, in principle, have gotten training, plus theoretic and practical exams. Still, that doesn't seem like a guarantee for them to stop doing stupid stuff now and then. The thing is of course that a car, like a motorcycle and moped, are slightly more complex pieces of machinery, requiring higher skills, with more mass and especially a lot more performance with the ability / potential to kill and hurt a lot of people. That's where the registration / licensing originates from. A bicycle doesn't carry that risk. The biggest risk he has is killing himself while making a scratch on someone's hood.

Still, I'm sure the current governments are already working on ways to have everybody registered and monitored constantly. In a few years we'll all have proximity chips so that the government, together with the network of cctv cameras, can check how responsible we are behaving. But of course the reason will be "security" then, because of these enormous risk for terrorist attacks unsure.gif . Of course we're all very responsible folks, we never break any law, so we have nothing to worry about. It's just against those bad people, like foreigners and cyclists rolleyes.gif .


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Posted 27 November 2007 - 08:13 pm

QUOTE(E-njoy @ Tue 27th Nov 2007, 06:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
A bicycle doesn't carry that risk. The biggest risk he has is killing himself while making a scratch on someone's hood.
Sorry but that is
Bollox


Done: Homo sap navigation/ twisty thing on bars to make it go vroom/ grabby thing to make it stop (in front of twisty thing)/ 'leccy things front and rear to make it glow at night/ Sucky + drippy oiler thing to keep chains moist (!!) / Laser Pro Stock Race pipes / bleeding ear drums (see previous mod)
To do: Educate homo sap nav system to operate twisty + grabby things/ get ear plugs

All Trashed Now... Pants... its a Cat B Mwahahaha it lives again!!


Remember every driver is a deaf myoptic twat who is out to kill you, ALWAYS assume they are going to do THE most f*cking DUMBASS, STUPID manouver possible, at the worst possible moment; get past, and get past quick


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