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[catsbum]

As you may have seen my rear hose blew recently. As it's an abs getting the replacement is a bit of an issue.

 

So my question is how hard would it be to "swap" the rear brake assembly for the standard non abs one.

 

I'm not worried about not having the abs as the front end works.

 

Thanks in advance

 

Cats

[Catteeclan]

You'll have to block the feed from the ABS for a start. If the calliper and master cylinder are still standard then a matching rear hose should get you going again.
Is this also a "linked' system? I'd guess you're gonna get a light blinking at you on the dash.

[PICARD]

Watching this with interest. I've got the same problem on a non tdm. ABS = PITA. I'm in the process of researching removing abs completely....not as simple as you'd think...good luck!!

[leehenty]

Caliper is the same, so you want a standard rear hose and banjos and M10 X 1.25 plugs and seals to block off abs. This is not a linked system.
Downside is insurance, if you came off as the bike will have a disabled abs they will say that's what caused it.

Personally, I would spend the £297 at Hel Performance and fit the nine braided lines kit all round. Bleed it all and never have to worry about it for years as the bike is a Keeper.

Edited by leehenty, 13 July 2021 - 07:07 pm.

[leehenty]

Also abs removal won't be easy as it uses the rear abs sensor for the speed signal.

[Catteeclan]

Just had a look see on the bikes I have in the garden. Front Honda dominator has the right fittings but you'd have to go around the swing arm twice to take up the slack. 

[fixitsan]

Also abs removal won't be easy as it uses the rear abs sensor for the speed signal.

And there's quite big difference in the pulse frequency so you couldn't just fit a non-ABS front sprocket sensor, without a frequency multiplier or maybe need a non-ABS ECU ?

 

Or a GPS speedo....

[wicklamulla]

don't be a numb nuts lad,  fix it properly.  Have You asked HEL if they will sell You just the rear brake line kit?  Makes me laugh that we'll shell out hundreds on leathers, helmets, sat navs and tyres but baulk at a few quid to fix something as important as brakes properly. 

[leehenty]

My theory of replacement of all the lines is based on the fact they are all same age. One has already burst, luckily the rear. On the front end it would be catastrophic. No sense in risking your life over £297.

[catsbum]

don't be a numb nuts lad,  fix it properly.  Have You asked HEL if they will sell You just the rear brake line kit?  Makes me laugh that we'll shell out hundreds on leathers, helmets, sat navs and tyres but baulk at a few quid to fix something as important as brakes properly. 

 

Thanks for the reply wicky. You do know it's not only the brake hose but as per the photo. Pretty sure HEL won't do this. 

 

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[leehenty]

Hel Performance do make the whole set to order on their website. Give them a ring see what they say.

[catsbum]

Hel Performance do make the whole set to order on their website. Give them a ring see what they say.

 

I have send them an Email.

I'll update accordingly.

[wicklamulla]

 

I have send them an Email.

I'll update accordingly.

 

 

when they reply message me the info. you have been given especially a part number for the whole kit or a rear brake line kit,  the more info. you can give me the more chance there is i may be able to help you out. 

[catsbum]

 

 

when they reply message me the info. you have been given especially a part number for the whole kit or a rear brake line kit,  the more info. you can give me the more chance there is i may be able to help you out. 

 

Hey Wicky

What are you up to?

 

Here's the reply from HEL

 

Hi Martin,

 

Thanks for your enquiry.

 

The rear for your model uses 3 rubber lines, 2 of them connect to a metal hard line, we don’t make metal hard lines though so they are retained on the bike. The diagrams from the links below show more detail of the front and rear original hoses.

 

FRONT MASTER CYLINDER for Yamaha TDM900A 2007 # YAMAHA - Genuine Spare Parts Catalogue (bike-parts-yam.com)

 

REAR BRAKE MASTER CYLINDER for Yamaha TDM900A 2007 # YAMAHA - Genuine Spare Parts Catalogue (bike-parts-yam.com)

 

If you would like to order the full kit front and rear included you can from the link below or call us on the number below if you would like the 3 rears only.

 

Our lines retail at £33 each inc. VAT, bolts and washers so the rears on their own would cost £98.99 delivered.

 

Yamaha TDM900A ABS (2005-2010) Flexible OEM Replacement Braided Brake Lines (helperformance.com)

 

Best Regards

 

Shaun Northcott

[Studley Ramrod]

You should be able to remove the whole of the pipe (item 28) from banjo to banjo.  Looks like 2 banjos, 2 blocks bolted to the swingarm and a clip (29) that need undoing.  Once you've got the lot off you can take it to a hydraulic pipe specialist.  I'm sure they could fit new pipes to the existing blocks.

[leehenty]

The metal blocks are effectively unions with a rigid metal pipe between them. The metal pipe I would expect to unscrew with threaded unions. Probably M10 x 1.25. shouldn't be too hard to duplicate the blocks.

[Catteeclan]

My dominator has the same size unions as jap cars. I'd like to think Yamaha use the same so if you damage yours I can make you another.
 

[leehenty]

My dominator has the same size unions as jap cars. I'd like to think Yamaha use the same so if you damage yours I can make you another.
 

Probably M10x1

[catsbum]

My dominator has the same size unions as jap cars. I'd like to think Yamaha use the same so if you damage yours I can make you another.
 

 

Some really helpful comments here chaps. Cattee/KenI'm going to remove all of it come Sunday so lets see what it looks like then

[Catteeclan]

Probably M10x1