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#1 curlylegend

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Posted 25 September 2021 - 02:28 pm

OK, so this is a thing that's bugged me for a long time. Ever since the first time it happened. I've managed to drop it once more and both times people have hurried to help me get the machine upright. 

But I keep thinking what would happen if I couped the bike and was completely on my own in the wilderness ?  There is actually a lot of it in France !

 

People on this forum have kindly sent me to several YouTube videos of people righting machines even bigger than my TDM....and making it look bloody easy. 

So I decided to stop putting it off and lay the bike down on it's side and learn how to pick it up....... but what if I couldn't ?  I am, after all, a feeble old septuagenarian. I couldn't ask Madam, she would just tell me I was an idiot to drop it in the first place.  And we live right out in the sticks here, sometimes not seeing anyone for days.

If the worst came to the worst I would have to have some means of getting the machine to at least an angle of 45 degrees. An evening of scouring YouTube gave me some interesting ideas and I devised this sort of arrangement.....many thanks to the guys who inspired me.

 

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So I duly lined the garage floor with padding to protect my TDM and reduce the chances of damage if it actually came crashing down while I was lowering it.  I was pretty much shitting bricks until I got the bike to about 45 degrees and then lowered it to the floor in a surprisingly controlled fashion.

Alright, so here goes.  I remembered all the lessons, lock the front brake, get two sound grips, have your back to the bike and use your leg muscles, not your arms or back.

 

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I wish I'd coaxed Madam into filming the next few seconds, it was so much easier than I was dreading. Using the technique above it was an absolute scoop to get the bike upright, no need to put the lifting mechanism into use at all !  Was that a total waste of time and money ?  Not really, it meant that if I couldn't at least lift it part of the way I would have the means to get the lift started... a good sound plan B.

 

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So there you are, hope this takes some of the anxiety away about couping your TDM.  If I can do it,even delicate maidens could !

 

Again many thanks to all the people on this forum who helped me over a bit of a panic point.  All I need to do now is to practice doing it with perhaps a broken collar bone or even a leg ?

 

 

 

 



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Posted 25 September 2021 - 03:06 pm

I can't tell from pic1 what your lifting arrangement is exactly if it had been needed?

If it's portable then I guess it might still be useful if ewe dropped the boike on a slope needing more than 90degs of righting.

Anyways what a wonderful experiment.
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Posted 25 September 2021 - 08:07 pm

Dropped mine a couple of weeks ago, I’m 60, luckily I spend my working week hauling pallets of stuff round manually, still bloody heavy.



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Posted 25 September 2021 - 08:15 pm

And you remembered to put the sidestand down.  Successful experiment. This is the reason I sold my TDM - just too tall for my ancient skeleton. 


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Posted 25 September 2021 - 08:21 pm

I dropped a CBX-6 many moons ago. Left the steering lock on while pulling away, trying to look cool for some girls looking. They had to help me lift it up! I felt like a dick. A small one. Good on you to try it on a controlled environment. I hope I never have to find out.

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Posted 25 September 2021 - 08:55 pm

I can't tell from pic1 what your lifting arrangement is exactly if it had been needed?

If it's portable then I guess it might still be useful if ewe dropped the boike on a slope needing more than 90degs of righting.

Anyways what a wonderful experiment.

I actually cribbed this off a portable device being promoted on YouTube.  Basically, it's a vertical post ( in sections in the YouTube one...)  and a robust tie-down strap securely attached to the bottom of it.  The rest of the strap with the hook goes over a roller at the top of the post, underneath the fallen bike and attached to the upper side of the frame. You work the ratchet to shorten the strap and voila, the bike rises !

Just have a hunt through YouTube and you'll find several examples..... one with a guy operating it while his leg's trapped under the bike !


Dropped mine a couple of weeks ago, I’m 60, luckily I spend my working week hauling pallets of stuff round manually, still bloody heavy.

 Indeed !



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Posted 25 September 2021 - 09:02 pm

I dropped a CBX-6 many moons ago. Left the steering lock on while pulling away, trying to look cool for some girls looking. They had to help me lift it up! I felt like a dick. A small one. Good on you to try it on a controlled environment. I hope I never have to find out.

 Might be an idea to try it ?   Better to find out in at home and you could always use it to develop a technique to use in an emergency. Let's face it, if I can do it I'm sure just about anyone can.

Works wonders for your self confidence.  I've been going about kicking sand in speccy guys faces all day and I'm even contemplating answering Madame back !


And you remembered to put the sidestand down.  Successful experiment. This is the reason I sold my TDM - just too tall for my ancient skeleton. 

 That's a shame.   What did you replace it with ?   That new Enfield Bullet seems to be just the thing with a low saddle height.



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Posted 26 September 2021 - 11:23 am

I've had a good few occasions where i needed to pick up my old 9r and Mk1 both and was'nt  really a problem, however age and i think since having had covid it's become more difficult, still can manage it but only just.


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Posted 26 September 2021 - 01:43 pm

Eastbound NL make a similar device called Moto Winch

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Posted 27 September 2021 - 10:46 am

 Might be an idea to try it ?   Better to find out in at home and you could always use it to develop a technique to use in an emergency. Let's face it, if I can do it I'm sure just about anyone can.

Works wonders for your self confidence.  I've been going about kicking sand in speccy guys faces all day and I'm even contemplating answering Madame back !


 That's a shame.   What did you replace it with ?   That new Enfield Bullet seems to be just the thing with a low saddle height.

I bought an original MT-03 but we never bonded. Very happy with its replacement- MT-07. 


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Posted 27 September 2021 - 11:06 am

The Back to the bike trick and lifting with legs is vital. 

Lucky I've never had to use it myself, but I did up a mountain pass in Italy once. 

 

 

I was in the car and came head to head with a skinny German guy on a fully loaded 1250GS. 

We both anchored on and he lost his footing on the verge, Over he went. 

 

I got out to make sure he was ok, but he couldn't lift the bike at all, My German was utterly minimal and he didn't seem to understand my English, unbelievable really because I was speaking really slowly and loud.  :dunno:

anyway, I eventually managed to get him around the other side of the bike and understand that I would lift it, and in one swift movement the bike was stood up. 

 

Unfortunately by this time I had a local in a tractor behind me follows by I don't know how many cars and bikes, so I didn't really get chance to properly make sure he was ok before having to drive off. 

 

 

Ironically, we had a group of GS's in front of us a few seconds before this, and I was in the middle of saying to the wife how I didn't mind having bikes in front because they could see more around the corners and have more time to react. Then I had to anchor on. 

 

I'm pretty sure I have a video of it somewhere. 



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Posted 27 September 2021 - 11:50 am

My German was utterly minimal and he didn't seem to understand my English, unbelievable really because I was speaking really slowly and loud.  :dunno:
 


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Posted 14 October 2021 - 05:25 pm

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Posted 14 October 2021 - 06:46 pm

Even small persons can do it.......although she isn't over 60 to be fair ;)

 

 

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Posted 14 October 2021 - 09:32 pm

That does it !    I give in !     I'm off to get one of those electric armchair things you see old buggers cruising around shopping centres with......

 

Even small persons can do it.......although she isn't over 60 to be fair ;)

 

 

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Posted 14 October 2021 - 09:50 pm

That does it !    I give in !     I'm off to get one of those electric armchair things you see old buggers cruising around shopping centres with......

 

 

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Posted 15 October 2021 - 05:49 am

Even small persons can do it.......although she isn't over 60 to be fair ;)

 

 

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Posted 15 October 2021 - 07:18 am

You have either got it or not I have never had it and never will I can get out of shape on European cobbles :rotflmmfao: :good:


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Posted 15 October 2021 - 10:03 am

Putting the 'bars on full lock also help as a lifting lever


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Posted 15 October 2021 - 03:12 pm

You have either got it or not I have never had it and never will I can get out of shape on European cobbles :rotflmmfao: :good:

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