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#41 dablik

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Posted 18 September 2013 - 08:22 pm

Sounds possible, i think, but did'nt Ali's bugger up on tour !!


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Posted 18 September 2013 - 08:43 pm

Good point that man.
One of mine did go about a week after an oil change but I've had one go in between too.



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Posted 19 September 2013 - 08:13 am

Sure - its anecdotal evidence.

 

The area at the top of the stator appears to be is insufficiently cooled - mine has flaking paint on the to of the stator cover. I think the potential restriction in oil flow rate could exacerbate an existing hot spot and just tip it over the edge. If I recall correctly, Ali had performed a service prior to his touring incident; as had I prior to the Monshau RTT this year.

 

With a decent battery on the bike, the failure could take some tome to manifest itself. I got all the way home from the Monschau RTT without a generator on a single battery.


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Posted 19 September 2013 - 08:28 am

Yes mine that failed earlier this year was during the first ride after a service and showed evidence of overheating at the top where all the tails are connected ;)


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Posted 19 September 2013 - 08:41 am

Well done bhoyos you moight be on to zummat there.

 

I am not sure that pre-soakin yer filter will make mush difference but identifrying the problem is alot of the battle.

 

At some point oil git me 9'er wan rewound and we can have a core for emergency distribution.


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Posted 19 September 2013 - 09:13 am

It's certainly explain why a lot of 9'ers have flaking paint on the stator cover.  Could be onto summat there Mark.


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Posted 19 September 2013 - 09:43 am

Can't remember how soon after the last service mind died.

 

All I know is that it happened within days of getting stuck in a snow storm, and had made the journey home from work at about 5mph most of the way, which I put down to the failure.  Headlights on, heated grips on (MAX), and very little charge going back in.


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Posted 19 September 2013 - 09:53 am

Hmm sounds like a good possibility,, Markymark you shall be for ever known as Sherlock if ya right  :)


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Posted 01 November 2013 - 02:50 pm

OK - so 4,00 miles later and its gone again - well and truly burnt out - again all across the top.

 

This time I am going to investigate the oil route into the area. The manual describes holes in the shaft which provide oil to the area. I may well poke these with a wire or summat and see if there is any crud in them.

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Posted 01 November 2013 - 02:58 pm

Will be interestin to know what ewe find MM.


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Posted 01 November 2013 - 03:07 pm

Not 100% sure but I think the rotor also has owil oles.


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Posted 01 November 2013 - 04:12 pm

Was that a rewound one Mark or a used item??? also why do 850's not appear to do this???


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Posted 01 November 2013 - 05:18 pm

Studly - Thanks - will look closely when I get the rotor off. - just taking my time - not sure how I know he rotor position - I have to maintain the TDC mark in the correct position. But the 3 allen bolts look equidistant. Is this where the woodruff key comes into its own?

 

 

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Yes it was a rewind from the guy in Torquay. I have a spare from him which is going in.soon as I figure out how to do the loom bits. He rewound both for me last time and gave me enough wire to get to the connector.

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Posted 01 November 2013 - 05:32 pm

Loom dimensions

 

 

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Posted 01 November 2013 - 09:05 pm

The woodruff key lines up with an arrowhead mark on the casing on the 8fiddly. :)

 

Here's a pic of my rotor showing the oil holes around the edge of the rim.  Dunno if yours is the same or not.

 

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Posted 01 November 2013 - 09:47 pm

Ears an udder view of the badger (on a mkI):

 

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And ears ya rough-wood key arrow:

 

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Posted 01 November 2013 - 10:50 pm

How many miles is that Mark?

4, 400, 4000 or 40000





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Posted 02 November 2013 - 05:33 pm

That was 4,000 miles - replaced following failure on the 2013 RTT.

 

I have found a guy in Swindon who is a motorcycle wire/electrics specialist. 

 

When I explained what was happening, he said he did not feel it was a cooling issue. He said it would take a massive earth to burn it out as badly as mine was. He wants the bike, when I have fitted the new stator, to do some diagnostic measurements through the R/R.

 

I fitted a voltmeter to my dash this afternoon. Will fit new Stator next Saturday morning and update this thread with info.


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Posted 02 November 2013 - 08:28 pm

Was that a rewound one Mark or a used item??? also why do 850's not appear to do this???

 

had to have my 850 stator rewound at around 31000 miles



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Posted 02 November 2013 - 09:19 pm

Are all the peeps with failures are also running loads of doo-dads on their boikes? Heated toe nails or sat nav radio FM camera HID side horns?
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