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#1 Hombre

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Posted 13 December 2017 - 03:46 pm

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Posted 13 December 2017 - 04:57 pm

Thanks for posting, makes for a good read!  :good:



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Posted 13 December 2017 - 07:00 pm

And Carpe gets a mention. :)

 

Didn't know the lights and seat foam were changed on the 9'er.


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Posted 13 December 2017 - 07:07 pm

Can anyone post the text pleasey? That website dont work on me tellingbone
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Posted 13 December 2017 - 07:14 pm

Why you want it:
Ok, calm down at the back there and stop sniggering. Yes, TDM does sound a lot like tedium when you pronounce it. And yes, as its name hints at the TDM900 isn’t the most exciting of motorcycles, but give Yamaha’s oddball a break. This is (arguably) the world’s first big supermoto and in that context, it was an incredibly foresighted move of Yamaha to build the first TDM850 way back in 1991. And the TDM900 is certainly better and a bit more exciting than that original machine.
Launched in 2002, the TDM900 built on the TDM850’s solid foundations. Still keeping its predecessor’s oddball looks and miss-matched wheel sizes that kind of hinted at off-road heritage but were always shod in road tyres, the TDM appealed to some, but left others cold. Why was this? In truth the TDM was never really designed to excite, it’s just not that kind of bike. Much like the equally unfairly maligned Honda Deauville (or dull-ville as wags call it) the TDM900 found its niche in a world of commuting and soaking up the miles rather than short-hop sunny Sunday blasts. And what’s wrong with that?
If you are after a cheap, comfortable and reliable hack, few tick these boxes better than the TDM900. Its upright stance makes it extremely comfortable to ride and aside from lacking wind protection (and aftermarket screen helps alleviate this issue but is very ugly) there is little to fault it as an everyday tool. Servicing is cheap thanks to the accessibility of the parallel twin engine, build quality is high and owners love the fact the TDM runs and run and run with virtually no major mechanical woes and a 200-mile tank range. If you want a cheap machine for covering the miles, this should be music to your ears.
 


 
What to look for:
The TDM900 is a very reliable machine and any issues stem from a lack of care and attention when it comes to the finish, which is a common story on a commuter hack. Look after the Yamaha’s metal parts and it will keep looking fresh, let them go to rack and ruin and they can look pretty tatty fairly quickly. Some owners get a bit hot under the collar about the TDM’s forks being overly soft, but what you lose in handling you gain in comfort. The gearbox is known to throw up a few false neutrals and the motor itself can burn a bit of oil, but these are solid lumps and you are only really talking paint peeling off its cases and the occasional reg/rec fault. Getting tyres for the weird size 18-inch front wheel can be annoying as your choices are limited and they cost a bit of a premium, but there are a few options out there. Other than these small gripes, the occasional cam chain tensioner can go (it was updated by Yamaha so ask if the bike uses the modified one) and that’s about it.
 


 
Any updates?
The first TDM850 arrived in 1991 and was replaced by the second generation TDM850 in 1996, which added beefier forks, a new frame and an updated motor alongside other significant upgrades. In 2002 the TDM900 arrived with a larger capacity motor, aluminium instead of steel frame, fuel-injection, new wheels and a complete make over and upgrade. In 2003 this bike’s lights and fork springs were altered, 2004 added an immobilisor and again new fork springs, ABS came in 2005 as an option while the last update in 2007 added black paint to the engine and thicker foam into the seat. In 2006 the TDM900A was released, which simply added a few bolt on luggage options to the stock TDM900.
 




 
What to pay:
There are loads and loads of used TDM900s out there and prices start at just £1,500 for a tired hack or Cat-C write-off. Push the budget to £2,000 and you can get a well looked after machine with 40,000 miles on its clocks while £2,500 is enough to half this mileage to the mid-20,000s. Armed with £3,000 you can get a really lovely example and £3,500 will buy you one with teen mileages and no damage. That’s not bad value at all. Absolute top dollar (or pound) is £5,000.
 
Who to ask:
 
www.carpe-tdm.net - This excellent TDM forum is pack full of great information and is a must-view page for owners or those interested in buying a TDM.
 
Specs:
Engine:  879cc, parallel twin, 10v, DOHC
Power: 85bhp @ 7,500rpm
Torque: 66ftlb @ 6,000rpm
Weight: 190kg


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Posted 13 December 2017 - 07:46 pm

Ta SR. 9er has rectumfrier faults too then hey!
Ahh I see the false neutrals comment too. They got a bit of mix-a-ma-models
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Posted 13 December 2017 - 07:54 pm

Good to see AliG got in there early to correct them on the oil consumption.


Bizarre that I posted that last night yet it seems to have come up as a blank post though.

Edited by ChrisG, 14 December 2017 - 09:45 am.

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Posted 13 December 2017 - 08:37 pm

 
www.carpe-tdm.net - This excellent TDM forum is pack full of great information and is a must-view page for owners or those interested in buying a TDM.

 

 

That bit was the best bit.


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Posted 13 December 2017 - 11:44 pm

I've never read a Bennetts article yet which gets it right on bikes I actually know about. They seem to gather bits and bobs of info, put it into a cocktail mixer and see what comes out. Guess they got the "facts" from Motor Cycle Lies


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Posted 14 December 2017 - 06:53 am

That article is well worthy of a moments reflection, or in my case, a smug bastard moment. I remember when the TDM first came out and drooled over the styling while remaining clueless about the bikes motivation. When, by happenstance, I ended up owning one it blew me away. I jumped on, rode off into the distance and after my second tank fill, half way through the days ride, I was hooked. 

 

A decade or two later and just about all the manufacturers are producing parallel twins. Go back ten years and see what was available..

 

As for reliability. Bloody astonishing. I'm a firm believer with bikes that what you take out you have to put back in, the way my TDM gets ridden it must have a voodoo charm not to complain.

 

Pretty cool that the TDM is still worthy of press attention.


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Posted 15 December 2017 - 06:43 pm

As a 900A owner I note they got this bit wrong:-

 

"In 2006 the TDM900A was released, which simply added a few bolt on luggage options to the stock TDM900"

 

Dunno where they go that nonsense from.


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Posted 16 December 2017 - 04:46 pm

As a 900A owner I note they got this bit wrong:-
 

"In 2006 the TDM900A was released, which simply added a few bolt on luggage options to the stock TDM900"

 
Dunno where they go that nonsense from.

It's the usual plagiarized tosh from the likes of MCN written by somebody who's never owned one. In 120000 miles of TDM riding I've never once found a false neutral.

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Posted 16 December 2017 - 09:57 pm

It's the usual plagiarized tosh from the likes of MCN written by somebody who's never owned one. In 120000 miles of TDM riding I've never once found a false neutral.

 

Maybe Guy Martin should had ridden a TDM at this year's TT  :pimp:


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Posted 17 December 2017 - 10:16 am

The Niners use a bit of oil?  False neutrals?  I've done 128,000k's, no oil use, no false neutrals ever.



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Posted 19 December 2017 - 10:53 am

It's the usual plagiarized tosh from the likes of MCN written by somebody who's never owned one. In 120000 miles of TDM riding I've never once found a false neutral.

 

Now you mention it I've had two TDM900s and ridden them over thousands and thousands of miles and I too have NEVER found a false neutral. 

 

Ca fait penser - as they say across the channel.



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Posted 19 December 2017 - 02:00 pm

I was about to post a comment on Bennett's site - had it all written - but don't do Faceache so had to stop.

 

Anyone facebookers want to use my words - below?

 

The comment:
"In 2006 the TDM900A was released, which simply added a few bolt on luggage options to the stock TDM900."
 - is nonsense. The 900A is the ABS version already referred to in the previous sentences. Remove this one.

Similarly this:
" The gearbox is known to throw up a few false neutrals and the motor itself can burn a bit of oil,"
 - is also nonsense. The 850 used oil, but not the 900.

Go see the owners group website comments on this article:
http://www.carpe-tdm...150#entry356401

 

 


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Posted 19 December 2017 - 05:39 pm

Done

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Posted 19 December 2017 - 09:58 pm

I had a good laugh reading that... paper...   :lol: 

I wonder if the average bike paper writer even knows the difference between carbs and injection.

(I know, most people don't)

 

 

 

Now you mention it I've had two TDM900s and ridden them over thousands and thousands of miles and I too have NEVER found a false neutral. 

 

Ca fait penser - as they say across the channel.

 

I'd say "Ca fait refléchir" -  "Ca fait penser" will require a full sentence following the verb.

You're welcome ! :P


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Posted 19 December 2017 - 11:05 pm

Done

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Ta.


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Posted 20 December 2017 - 08:46 am

 

 

 

I'd say "Ca fait refléchir" -  "Ca fait penser" will require a full sentence following the verb.

You're welcome ! :P

 

Merci beaucoup JBX. Cela vaut la peine de savoir!

 

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