Been Very Naughty, It Was The Free Coffee Honest
#1
Posted 26 June 2021 - 06:38 pm
Whilst there, I somehow got talked into a test ride of a S1000XR as I was impressed with the fancy curved radiator.
The salesman said TDM's were well out of date, Sir needed something more modern to be "on trend" and at the pinnacle of motorcycle development.
Ok I thought let's see what it's all about.
I was going to give the F900 a go, but it was booked out, so the nice gentleman suggested the big one
Handed over credit card for the security deposit and had it for up to an hour. It looked very well put together, felt slightly heavy to me, but it had the low seat option fitted.
166hp , it definitely goes very well, but I found it hard to get my head round all the menu's, modes and settings.
We spent 10 mins going through it all. He advised against sport mode in damp conditions.
I am not a fan of digital dash but it was bright and clear. Rain mode was set as it was slightly damp. On a dry bit of road I switched to standard mode and it picked up very fast, scarily fast. God knows what sport mode is like, I wasn't brave enough to go there.
Brakes are very good and it felt very planted. Hasty switch back to rain mode to tame the beast to get it back to the dealer in one piece.
Sensible head on, it's definitely far too much bike for me and with all the fancy options eSA etc the costs approached £17k.
They always say "only" before the large painful number.
Riding home on my Niner got me thinking how good it is for it's design age and how easy and forgiving it is to ride.
I'm obviously "off trend" but I think I'll stay a Luddite with old tried and tested.
Lesson learned, no more free dealer coffee.
#2
Posted 26 June 2021 - 06:45 pm
The salesman said TDM's were well out of date, Sir needed something more modern to be "on trend" and at the pinnacle of motorcycle development.
Should of punched him at that point.....
If I had all the fancy modes on a bike I doubt I'd ever use any of them, I like to get on a bike and just ride it, if it's wet use less throttle, is that rocket science?
I'm sure they are a fantastic bit of kit but I think I'll stick to me old plodder of a 4tx, also I'm far too tight for that sort of cash!
Current toys: '99 XT600E, 2000 4TX, '82 Princess 30DS (where the username comes from), No longer a '03 Fazer thou.
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#3
Posted 26 June 2021 - 06:56 pm
Must admit to fancying a go at that bike myself, it's just far too much money.
Especially when you're still enjoying a TDM.
2002 TDM900 Yellow
#4
Posted 26 June 2021 - 06:56 pm
I had no intention of test riding a bike today, so they must drug the coffee.
#5
Posted 26 June 2021 - 06:57 pm
Went to Peterborough BMW to scrub in the new tyres and drink their free coffee and look at bikes.
Whilst there, I somehow got talked into a test ride of a S1000XR as I was impressed with the fancy curved radiator.
The salesman said TDM's were well out of date, Sir needed something more modern to be "on trend" and at the pinnacle of motorcycle development.
Ok I thought let's see what it's all about.
I was going to give the F900 a go, but it was booked out, so the nice gentleman suggested the big one
Handed over credit card for the security deposit and had it for up to an hour. It looked very well put together, felt slightly heavy to me, but it had the low seat option fitted.
166hp , it definitely goes very well, but I found it hard to get my head round all the menu's, modes and settings.
We spent 10 mins going through it all. He advised against sport mode in damp conditions.
I am not a fan of digital dash but it was bright and clear. Rain mode was set as it was slightly damp. On a dry bit of road I switched to standard mode and it picked up very fast, scarily fast. God knows what sport mode is like, I wasn't brave enough to go there.
Brakes are very good and it felt very planted. Hasty switch back to rain mode to tame the beast to get it back to the dealer in one piece.
Sensible head on, it's definitely far too much bike for me and with all the fancy options eSA etc the costs approached £17k.
They always say "only" before the large painful number.
Riding home on my Niner got me thinking how good it is for it's design age and how easy and forgiving it is to ride.
I'm obviously "off trend" but I think I'll stay a Luddite with old tried and tested.
Lesson learned, no more free dealer coffee.
Grandson has an XR I had a ride on it but miss the torque of the TDM he has also ridden the naked BMW F900 twin and loved it reckons it could qualify as a pimped up 900 TDM
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#6
Posted 26 June 2021 - 06:59 pm
Must admit to fancying a go at that bike myself, it's just far too much money.
Just go do it, you will come away slightly dazed needing clean skiddys.
#7
Posted 26 June 2021 - 08:43 pm
Nice bike, Sidey's got one and it was like a missile. Prolly encourages one to open it up having all that power. Latest Gs's aren't far behind in the bhp department and offer a better touring bike imho.
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#8
Posted 27 June 2021 - 09:54 am
Clearly they don't know TDM riders well enough, if they'd thrown in a slice of cake with the coffee they'd probably have had a sale
Is that screen standard on them now? I somehow looks a lot more angular than the older ones, now sure if they've restyled them or it's just the screen making it look different.
1992 Mk1, 76k miles, Hagon springs, MTC exhaust, 4½ gears Gone now
2009 900 abs, 42k miles, Yamaha heated grips, double bubble screen, R&G crash bungs, scottoiler, Autocom, 1500 lumen LED spotlights.
#9
Posted 27 June 2021 - 10:18 am
I gotta say the front of that thing looks ghastly to me.
Current toys: '99 XT600E, 2000 4TX, '82 Princess 30DS (where the username comes from), No longer a '03 Fazer thou.
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#10
Posted 27 June 2021 - 11:19 am
Clearly they don't know TDM riders well enough, if they'd thrown in a slice of cake with the coffee they'd probably have had a sale
Is that screen standard on them now? I somehow looks a lot more angular than the older ones, now sure if they've restyled them or it's just the screen making it look different.
The pincers have grown a bit longer and the screen is in the extended position by the looks of it. Also looks like the red one has a full fairing. Here's Sideys bike next to a familiar mk1.
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Mk2a 2000 in Silver. Top end Refurb @ 41100 miles, Scottoiler, Renthal Road High Bars, Up & Back Bar Risers, Bellypan, DL650 Handguards, Capt. Picard Bar Ends, House of Henty SS Wheel spacers, New Seat Cover Fitted. 58 MPG !! Now owned by chrisbee ! Studley's mk2a Bloggerydoodaah ! Photos of my first MK1 Photos of my MK2a TPLQHCSRSFC No. 1 Fan
#11
Posted 27 June 2021 - 02:39 pm
Seat looks comfy - not
#12
Posted 27 June 2021 - 06:25 pm
They are rocket ships aren't they Lee? I had a go on the previous model when I had a local BM dealer, it's a real licence loser! 160hp if I remember correctly. I know I couldn't keep up with Sidey on his on a trip to Scotland a few years back when I was on the Crosstourer .
The salesman's line about the TDMs being well out of date is true, if technology is your thing. But motorbikes aren't like televisions, not many people have a gigantic CRT TV taking over a corner of their lounge because they like the classic looks, picture quality and lack of gizmos, but on motorbikes, it's a valid choice to have the simpler alternative.
I'm thinking of trading the Crosstourer in for either a BMW900XR, a Tracer9, or the Triumph Tiger 900 sometime in the next year, all are techy alternatives to the TDM in my opinion.
2002 TDM900 in glorious yellow, NOW SOLD
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#13
Posted 27 June 2021 - 07:58 pm
Yeah, he left me for dust when I was on my mk1, but my rear tyre lasts a lot longer than his.
How about the Guzzi V85TT Chris ? bit loike a TDM with shaft drive. Not sure what Euro compliant level it is though and it seems more cities are introducing limits on non compliant vehicles.
Mk2a 2000 in Silver. Top end Refurb @ 41100 miles, Scottoiler, Renthal Road High Bars, Up & Back Bar Risers, Bellypan, DL650 Handguards, Capt. Picard Bar Ends, House of Henty SS Wheel spacers, New Seat Cover Fitted. 58 MPG !! Now owned by chrisbee ! Studley's mk2a Bloggerydoodaah ! Photos of my first MK1 Photos of my MK2a TPLQHCSRSFC No. 1 Fan
#14
Posted 27 June 2021 - 08:47 pm
Yeah, he left me for dust when I was on my mk1, but my rear tyre lasts a lot longer than his.
How about the Guzzi V85TT Chris ? bit loike a TDM with shaft drive. Not sure what Euro compliant level it is though and it seems more cities are introducing limits on non compliant vehicles.
Yes, the Crosstourer has a fondness for tyres too, bizarrely it wears out the front as fast as the rear That's down to the weight I think.
The Guzzi is a great looking bike , but I was after a bit more power and I'm not fussed about shaft drive. I'm unlikely to be commuting much more, so I can choose something for fun & touring rather than having to be sensible. The Crosstourer is certainly fun, but she's a big girl and takes some pushing through the corners. After a day out on the twisties my upper body is aching all over
Edited by Matlock, 28 June 2021 - 09:02 pm.
2002 TDM900 in glorious yellow, NOW SOLD
2012 Honda Crosstourer VFR1200X. Hyperspeed tourer.
1990 XTZ750 in black, standard apart from Micron silencer. Mechanical restoration complete, cosmetic restoration next on the agenda.. NOW SOLD
Follow me on twitter
#15
Posted 27 June 2021 - 09:12 pm
1992 Mk1, 76k miles, Hagon springs, MTC exhaust, 4½ gears Gone now
2009 900 abs, 42k miles, Yamaha heated grips, double bubble screen, R&G crash bungs, scottoiler, Autocom, 1500 lumen LED spotlights.
#16
Posted 29 June 2021 - 11:39 am
i had one of these out for test - very nice and unHarley like - no vibes and turns corners
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TDM 1991 - two into one micron mated with a A16 Road and Race Supplies Stainless short can - Conti Road Attacks - Kagazume Wavy Rear Disc - Bagster tank cover - homemade sheepskin seat cover on top of custom seat cover - NonFango topbox on homemade mount - custom fusebox - very loud airhorn and cyclone alarm
#17
Posted 29 June 2021 - 12:51 pm
#18
Posted 29 June 2021 - 01:12 pm
I think those they look ok, what's the build quality and finish like? On some Harleys they seem seem to expect owners to replace everything with shinier after market bits, but I would guess thats not the demographic they're aiming the Pan America at.
Surprised by the lack of vibes comment though, I took a Buell Ulysses for a test ride some years back and at tickover the indicators bounced up and down
1992 Mk1, 76k miles, Hagon springs, MTC exhaust, 4½ gears Gone now
2009 900 abs, 42k miles, Yamaha heated grips, double bubble screen, R&G crash bungs, scottoiler, Autocom, 1500 lumen LED spotlights.
#19
Posted 29 June 2021 - 05:41 pm
That Pan America is a good first effort from Harley imho. Looks to be top heavy but it's lighter than the Honda Crosstourer. Prolly not for the short arsed amongst us, ie moi.
Mk2a 2000 in Silver. Top end Refurb @ 41100 miles, Scottoiler, Renthal Road High Bars, Up & Back Bar Risers, Bellypan, DL650 Handguards, Capt. Picard Bar Ends, House of Henty SS Wheel spacers, New Seat Cover Fitted. 58 MPG !! Now owned by chrisbee ! Studley's mk2a Bloggerydoodaah ! Photos of my first MK1 Photos of my MK2a TPLQHCSRSFC No. 1 Fan
#20
Posted 02 July 2021 - 01:26 pm
I think those they look ok, what's the build quality and finish like? On some Harleys they seem seem to expect owners to replace everything with shinier after market bits, but I would guess thats not the demographic they're aiming the Pan America at.
Surprised by the lack of vibes comment though, I took a Buell Ulysses for a test ride some years back and at tickover the indicators bounced up and down
extremely smooth and 150BHP - noticeable difference between road and sport mode - it can shift - never tried any of the off-road modes - excellent suspension - and i took my Buell Ulysses down to pick it up for test drive so i can speak authoritatively on vibes or complete lack of - and for what it is a good price point - but they limit imports to keep demand high and second hand prices high - and from my inspection good build quality and finish
That Pan America is a good first effort from Harley imho. Looks to be top heavy but it's lighter than the Honda Crosstourer. Prolly not for the short arsed amongst us, ie moi.
the special has an automatic electronic lowering kit so short arses don't fall over
Edited by mh1848, 02 July 2021 - 01:26 pm.
TDM 1991 - two into one micron mated with a A16 Road and Race Supplies Stainless short can - Conti Road Attacks - Kagazume Wavy Rear Disc - Bagster tank cover - homemade sheepskin seat cover on top of custom seat cover - NonFango topbox on homemade mount - custom fusebox - very loud airhorn and cyclone alarm
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