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#1 JMC

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Posted 07 November 2019 - 07:20 pm

8km into a 10km journey a few hours ago my 2000 4tx suddenly lost about 80% of power, lights dimmed, turn signals were dim and flashed faster, needles on speedo and rev counter were up/down and all over the place giving false readings, was like a scene from herbie goes bananas  :hide:

Let her sit for a bit and she started up again and been ok since, just did another 10km and she ran ok so about to troubleshoot this, anyone had similar happen ?


Edited by JMC, 07 November 2019 - 07:21 pm.


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Posted 07 November 2019 - 08:41 pm

Yes, main fuse was loose in the solinoid and was arcing

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Posted 07 November 2019 - 09:17 pm

Or loose battery terminal.

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Posted 08 November 2019 - 07:44 am

Thanks guys, both seem like one of the obvious ones it will be tomorrow before I will get a chance to check properly
I'll report back hopefully once I've sorted it

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Posted 08 November 2019 - 08:14 am

If it.s not the above

 

Remove & separate the solenoid. Ensure the brass track and fuse holder are intact -  mine had broken making intermittent contact, on my previous 4tx, the symptoms were the same. I made my own copper sheet replacement


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Posted 08 November 2019 - 08:29 am

If it.s not the above

 

Remove & separate the solenoid. Ensure the brass track and fuse holder are intact -  mine had broken making intermittent contact, on my previous 4tx, the symptoms were the same. I made my own copper sheet replacement

 

After I finished the first journey I switched off the ignition, then on again and it was dead so my first thought was the battery went bang so I got the jump leads and started it off the car to try rule out other possible issues.

I made positive contact at the junction under the seat and the bike has run fine since, but I couldn't find anything loose right there.

The electrical gremlins are in my house this week as I had a relay go in the wifes car on monday that took some time to find  :unsure2:



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Posted 08 November 2019 - 02:32 pm

could be ignition switch too


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Posted 08 November 2019 - 02:41 pm

remove the starter relay from the gluaisrothar and carefully split it open, clean and inspect the contacts. If in doubt replace it.


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Posted 08 November 2019 - 07:21 pm

8km into a 10km journey a few hours ago my 2000 4tx suddenly lost about 80% of power, lights dimmed, turn signals were dim and flashed faster, needles on speedo and rev counter were up/down and all over the place giving false readings, was like a scene from herbie goes bananas  :hide:
Let her sit for a bit and she started up again and been ok since, just did another 10km and she ran ok so about to troubleshoot this, anyone had similar happen ?

This happened to me coming back from Scotland this year managed to get home
On close inspection the starter relay had split into 2 pieces replaced it with a main dealer part all good now

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Posted 11 November 2019 - 10:08 am

I took out the relay over the weekend and cleaned up the contacts with the dremel and brushed on some electrical grease, checked all the other connections and all seem fine if it happens again I'll replace it, she's going fine since so thanks to all that replied  :good:


Edited by JMC, 11 November 2019 - 10:08 am.


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Posted 11 November 2019 - 11:32 am

Replacement solenoid can be obtained within 2 weeks for little cost.......

 

https://www.banggood...d.html?from=nav


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Posted 11 November 2019 - 02:59 pm

8km into a 10km journey a few hours ago my 2000 4tx suddenly lost about 80% of power, lights dimmed, turn signals were dim and flashed faster, needles on speedo and rev counter were up/down and all over the place giving false readings, was like a scene from herbie goes bananas  :hide:

Let her sit for a bit and she started up again and been ok since, just did another 10km and she ran ok so about to troubleshoot this, anyone had similar happen ?

 

And this was while driving, not at attempted startup ?


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Posted 11 November 2019 - 03:31 pm

 

And this was while driving, not at attempted startup ?

 

Yep while driving, been all good since so will see how it goes I won't be on any longer trips other than my 10km commute to work until the xmas holidays :)


Replacement solenoid can be obtained within 2 weeks for little cost.......

 

https://www.banggood...d.html?from=nav

 

I think I might just order one of them anyway thanks for the link  :good:



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Posted 11 November 2019 - 04:33 pm

 

Yep while driving, been all good since so will see how it goes I won't be on any longer trips other than my 10km commute to work until the xmas holidays :)

 

The reason I asked is I figured the solenoid won't make trouble while driving, just upon start attempts. Ignition lock or connections like battery poles are more likely, I guess....


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Posted 11 November 2019 - 04:53 pm

Oh yes it will (Panto season is upon us). :)


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Posted 19 November 2019 - 06:57 pm

it could also be a sign the ecu/ecm is packing up mine did that  few times - i posted on here about it a while (couple of years) ago and JBX suggested if speedo needles do the craziness then that is what it might be


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Posted 20 November 2019 - 09:57 am

it could also be a sign the ecu/ecm is packing up mine did that  few times - i posted on here about it a while (couple of years) ago and JBX suggested if speedo needles do the craziness then that is what it might be

 

 

It's been fine since I cleaned up the solenoid but thanks for that at least I will have a list of places to look if it happens again  :good:



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Posted 20 November 2019 - 10:21 am

Just a last one. I a while ago. Everything would be fine then suddenly electrical mayhem. They all ok for a while, repeat mayhem. Turned out to be a loose connection on the battery. I couldn't see it but as soon as I nipped it up the problem stopped. I wondered if the lead bold had backed off/me not done up fully, some muck or something got in there and started the problem. Just thinking that when you put the jump leads on you may have remade the connection.

 

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Posted 20 November 2019 - 06:13 pm

Another place to get poor connections are the multiway plugs under the tank, behind the headstock near the thermostat housing. The can attract a bit of corossion


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Posted 21 November 2019 - 05:37 pm

Another place to get poor connections are the multiway plugs under the tank, behind the headstock near the thermostat housing. The can attract a bit of corossion

 

I'm a bit like Santa Claus now I'm making a list and will check it twice.....at christmas time when I've 2 weeks off   :P

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