i'm after an estate car for towing bike trailers and carrying the usual crap around
only expected to do 4-5000 miles a year so not too worried bout fuel consumption
dont mind manual or auto, but would prefer black with leather interior (yes i'm a complete girl)
been thinking of a Subaru Legacy, anyone got any opinions of them?
http://cgi.ebay.co.u...em=130206890381
seem to be decent work horses, enough power to enjoy myself too....
looking for a rwd or awd estate car - thats a little bit fun
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TonyDevil
, Mar 19 2008 03:10 pm
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TonyDevil
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Posted 19 March 2008 - 03:10 pm
"Never argue with an idiot. They just bring you down to their level and beat you with experience"
My TDM :
Black 1991 850 MK1, 160k+ miles(ish, best guess really, gave up trying to keep count after 3rd set of clocks and 3rd engine), PilotRoad2 tyres, custom stubby exhaust system, bluespot calipers & goodridge braided hoses with dunlopads, maxton forks, Ohlins shock, kedo handguards, stainless TDM grill, Scottoiler with lubetube & dual nozzle thingy, Givi Wingrack2 with E45 & 2xE36s, renntec crash bars, Autocom with blueteeth & PMR radio, TomTom Rider2, Optimate IIIsp, Bagster tank cover, anti-dazzle coating
to fit : led spotlights, heated grips, new braided lines and rear caliper that actually has bleed nipples
Silver-ish 2003 900, 70k miles, PilotRoad3 front tyre (new@65k) & PR2 rear(new at 69k), Renthal 755 bars with KTM handguards, oxford unheated grips, power commander 3usb, scorpion titanium exhausts, standard screen with vario winglet thingy, stainless grill, oem centre stand, bagster tank cover, givi monokey topplate mounted on grabrail with V46 topbox, Givi PL pannier rails with E21s, crash bungs, mirror extender thingys, Halfords Advanced Laser Blue brillance bulbs, 21w led spotlights, touring scottoiler with leehenty dual nozzle, Autocom with blueteeth & PMR radio, TomTom Rider3 Urban, winter style anti-dazzle coating
to fit : led brake light strip, replacement heated grips
current rides : TDM850 3vd/mk1=tourer&scratcher, TRX850=weekend twisty toy, 2003 TDM900=commuter, 2005 TDM900=unmolested. Gone but not forgotton : XTZ750=overland touring toy, GS500e, GS125
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Posted 19 March 2008 - 03:49 pm
At 78.000 its very near a BIG service with cam belts needing changed. I would check the price for its 80.000 mile service, other than that they are nice to drive & fast I nearly bought one a few years back but the service cost put me off.
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Posted 19 March 2008 - 03:51 pm
QUOTE(TonyDevil @ Wed 19th Mar 2008, 02:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
ibeen thinking of a Subaru Legacy, anyone got any opinions of them?
Well I havent owned one but did look at buying the scooby imp and servicing is costly as you have to have one every 5,000 (but that would be once a year!!)I was told by a main dealer but might be wrong!!!
Prob chew tyres if driven prop talking of driving
you will have smiles wider than a black womans butt 
I test drove the scooby and Evo 7 and when thrashed wot superb cars absoulte headbangers, Think GSXR1000 but in a car
More grip that you can think of but will go over that point of no return without knowing apart from you headbutt that tree cos of the computer gimicks or driver aids keep you wrapped up in cotton wool until they say "Nope no more grip left have that!!" and throw the nearest tree at you at 150mph:huh:
But hey wots the point of having one of these cars and not thackin it once a week
Go buy it just for the fun value and sell it in a year time...
They do deprecaite quick so don't pay too much cost alot to insure and have a drink problem
Thats why I din't buy one cos I do about 13,000 a year.....
My Super Modded TDM has gone to a new home 
I'm now a carbon whore!
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Posted 19 March 2008 - 03:54 pm
i've been driving a rather highly tuned ghia-x mondeo for 8years so i'm used to thirsty motors & shreading toyo-t1s in 3000miles 
i'll check the service cost and if its been done, thnx for the heads up
i'll check the service cost and if its been done, thnx for the heads up
"Never argue with an idiot. They just bring you down to their level and beat you with experience"
My TDM :
Black 1991 850 MK1, 160k+ miles(ish, best guess really, gave up trying to keep count after 3rd set of clocks and 3rd engine), PilotRoad2 tyres, custom stubby exhaust system, bluespot calipers & goodridge braided hoses with dunlopads, maxton forks, Ohlins shock, kedo handguards, stainless TDM grill, Scottoiler with lubetube & dual nozzle thingy, Givi Wingrack2 with E45 & 2xE36s, renntec crash bars, Autocom with blueteeth & PMR radio, TomTom Rider2, Optimate IIIsp, Bagster tank cover, anti-dazzle coating
to fit : led spotlights, heated grips, new braided lines and rear caliper that actually has bleed nipples
Silver-ish 2003 900, 70k miles, PilotRoad3 front tyre (new@65k) & PR2 rear(new at 69k), Renthal 755 bars with KTM handguards, oxford unheated grips, power commander 3usb, scorpion titanium exhausts, standard screen with vario winglet thingy, stainless grill, oem centre stand, bagster tank cover, givi monokey topplate mounted on grabrail with V46 topbox, Givi PL pannier rails with E21s, crash bungs, mirror extender thingys, Halfords Advanced Laser Blue brillance bulbs, 21w led spotlights, touring scottoiler with leehenty dual nozzle, Autocom with blueteeth & PMR radio, TomTom Rider3 Urban, winter style anti-dazzle coating
to fit : led brake light strip, replacement heated grips
current rides : TDM850 3vd/mk1=tourer&scratcher, TRX850=weekend twisty toy, 2003 TDM900=commuter, 2005 TDM900=unmolested. Gone but not forgotton : XTZ750=overland touring toy, GS500e, GS125
If a strange looking truck driver honks at you & gives you the thumbs up, its could be me
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Posted 19 March 2008 - 04:18 pm
service on the legacy is every 7500miles/6months until 3years old, then 15,000miles/yearly after that
cambelt change every 45,000miles and 'major component' service (whatever that is) every 30,000miles
thanks to the service guy at Bulldog Subaru in Tywford for being uber helpful and pointing out what to check on that vehicle
think i'm gonna go fer this one
anyone wanna buy a 98 s-reg mondeo ghia-x ?
(enough boot space for carrying a TDM850 )
cambelt change every 45,000miles and 'major component' service (whatever that is) every 30,000miles
thanks to the service guy at Bulldog Subaru in Tywford for being uber helpful and pointing out what to check on that vehicle
think i'm gonna go fer this one
anyone wanna buy a 98 s-reg mondeo ghia-x ?
(enough boot space for carrying a TDM850
)
"Never argue with an idiot. They just bring you down to their level and beat you with experience"
My TDM :
Black 1991 850 MK1, 160k+ miles(ish, best guess really, gave up trying to keep count after 3rd set of clocks and 3rd engine), PilotRoad2 tyres, custom stubby exhaust system, bluespot calipers & goodridge braided hoses with dunlopads, maxton forks, Ohlins shock, kedo handguards, stainless TDM grill, Scottoiler with lubetube & dual nozzle thingy, Givi Wingrack2 with E45 & 2xE36s, renntec crash bars, Autocom with blueteeth & PMR radio, TomTom Rider2, Optimate IIIsp, Bagster tank cover, anti-dazzle coating
to fit : led spotlights, heated grips, new braided lines and rear caliper that actually has bleed nipples
Silver-ish 2003 900, 70k miles, PilotRoad3 front tyre (new@65k) & PR2 rear(new at 69k), Renthal 755 bars with KTM handguards, oxford unheated grips, power commander 3usb, scorpion titanium exhausts, standard screen with vario winglet thingy, stainless grill, oem centre stand, bagster tank cover, givi monokey topplate mounted on grabrail with V46 topbox, Givi PL pannier rails with E21s, crash bungs, mirror extender thingys, Halfords Advanced Laser Blue brillance bulbs, 21w led spotlights, touring scottoiler with leehenty dual nozzle, Autocom with blueteeth & PMR radio, TomTom Rider3 Urban, winter style anti-dazzle coating
to fit : led brake light strip, replacement heated grips
current rides : TDM850 3vd/mk1=tourer&scratcher, TRX850=weekend twisty toy, 2003 TDM900=commuter, 2005 TDM900=unmolested. Gone but not forgotton : XTZ750=overland touring toy, GS500e, GS125
If a strange looking truck driver honks at you & gives you the thumbs up, its could be me
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Posted 19 March 2008 - 05:05 pm
Morris Minor Traveller?
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Posted 19 March 2008 - 05:29 pm
"Never argue with an idiot. They just bring you down to their level and beat you with experience"
My TDM :
Black 1991 850 MK1, 160k+ miles(ish, best guess really, gave up trying to keep count after 3rd set of clocks and 3rd engine), PilotRoad2 tyres, custom stubby exhaust system, bluespot calipers & goodridge braided hoses with dunlopads, maxton forks, Ohlins shock, kedo handguards, stainless TDM grill, Scottoiler with lubetube & dual nozzle thingy, Givi Wingrack2 with E45 & 2xE36s, renntec crash bars, Autocom with blueteeth & PMR radio, TomTom Rider2, Optimate IIIsp, Bagster tank cover, anti-dazzle coating
to fit : led spotlights, heated grips, new braided lines and rear caliper that actually has bleed nipples
Silver-ish 2003 900, 70k miles, PilotRoad3 front tyre (new@65k) & PR2 rear(new at 69k), Renthal 755 bars with KTM handguards, oxford unheated grips, power commander 3usb, scorpion titanium exhausts, standard screen with vario winglet thingy, stainless grill, oem centre stand, bagster tank cover, givi monokey topplate mounted on grabrail with V46 topbox, Givi PL pannier rails with E21s, crash bungs, mirror extender thingys, Halfords Advanced Laser Blue brillance bulbs, 21w led spotlights, touring scottoiler with leehenty dual nozzle, Autocom with blueteeth & PMR radio, TomTom Rider3 Urban, winter style anti-dazzle coating
to fit : led brake light strip, replacement heated grips
current rides : TDM850 3vd/mk1=tourer&scratcher, TRX850=weekend twisty toy, 2003 TDM900=commuter, 2005 TDM900=unmolested. Gone but not forgotton : XTZ750=overland touring toy, GS500e, GS125
If a strange looking truck driver honks at you & gives you the thumbs up, its could be me
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Posted 19 March 2008 - 06:04 pm
I had a Subaru Forester till quite recently. Servicing charges were extremely high and the intervals low. Reliability was nothing special (ie. it was no more reliable than your average Ford, which means far from 100 per cent) and the awd system went through tires at quite a pace. After seven years and 75K miles, it became clear that an awful lot of parts would need replacing over the next couple of years, so I sold it. Sorry if this sounds negative but if you add up the total cost of ownership I'd be surprised if a used Ford/Peugeot/Toyota etc didn't offer better value. Also, Subarus are petrol-only and their mpg has never been the best (they have just introduced a diesel but models won't hit the secondhand market for a while). Their engines do offer tremendous torque, though, which is why they've always been pop for towing and countryside stuff.
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Posted 19 March 2008 - 06:35 pm
Rav 4. They'll all think your Gay for a while but that soon passes.
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Posted 19 March 2008 - 06:38 pm
QUOTE(CatsBum @ Wed 19th Mar 2008, 06:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Rav 4. They'll all think your Gay for a while but that soon passes. Not unless he gets a new 900 too!! 
Edited by jht, 19 March 2008 - 06:38 pm.
Done: Homo sap navigation/ twisty thing on bars to make it go vroom/ grabby thing to make it stop (in front of twisty thing)/ 'leccy things front and rear to make it glow at night/ Sucky + drippy oiler thing to keep chains moist (!!) / Laser Pro Stock Race pipes / bleeding ear drums (see previous mod)
To do: Educate homo sap nav system to operate twisty + grabby things/ get ear plugs
All Trashed Now... Pants... its a Cat B Mwahahaha it lives again!!
Remember every driver is a deaf myoptic twat who is out to kill you, ALWAYS assume they are going to do THE most f*cking DUMBASS, STUPID manouver possible, at the worst possible moment; get past, and get past quick
To do: Educate homo sap nav system to operate twisty + grabby things/ get ear plugs
Remember every driver is a deaf myoptic twat who is out to kill you, ALWAYS assume they are going to do THE most f*cking DUMBASS, STUPID manouver possible, at the worst possible moment; get past, and get past quick
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Posted 19 March 2008 - 06:40 pm
Beemer 530! ...or even the 520 diesel should suffice for towing a bike.
EXCELLENT drive,
LOVELY straight six engine
not too bad service cost (lots of alternative suppliers for parts).
Should be able to find a cheap high mileage one.
Too Freud to rock'n'roll, too Jung to die.
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Posted 19 March 2008 - 07:05 pm
QUOTE(CatsBum @ Wed 19th Mar 2008, 06:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Rav 4. They'll all think your Gay for a while but that soon passes.
Or a Honda CRV
My Super Modded TDM has gone to a new home
I'm now a carbon whore!
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Posted 20 March 2008 - 12:09 am
i tink i was told be a previous Legacy owner that the enjun has to be partially dropped/pushed back to git at the spark plugs !!!! this true or no ??
spyball alarm/immob, bluespot brake calipers and Stainless hoses, Fournales air adjustable shock with Remote Resevoir, forks raised 10mm thru yokes, racetech linear fork springs in 15 wt oil, Kappa wingrack/luggage, heated grips, Kedo handguards, dual heat controller to power heated jacket liner and or pants!!, Stebel 136DB horn, K&N air filter, colour matched Baglux tank cover (magnetic tank bag modified to fit cover), osram +50% headloight bulbs, headlight protector,"NitramSpecial" parking loight, tail light indicators all running on LED's & incorporate "Lite Buddies", MK7 Scottoiler fitted, taller screen, 2-2 stainless steel CCC's, Devil stainless down pipes. MKI Renntec engine crash bars & sump guard.
engine changed july 2007 on a dyno run it made 79.1BHP / Torque 59.9Had a brief flirtation with a 1999 MKIIa but it blew an exaust valve on the M5 so was sold on to be repaired.
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Posted 20 March 2008 - 01:30 am
QUOTE(Galilee @ Wed 19th Mar 2008, 06:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Beemer 530! ...or even the 520 diesel should suffice for towing a bike.
EXCELLENT drive,
LOVELY straight six engine
not too bad service cost (lots of alternative suppliers for parts).
Should be able to find a cheap high mileage one.
EXCELLENT drive,
LOVELY straight six engine
not too bad service cost (lots of alternative suppliers for parts).
Should be able to find a cheap high mileage one.
that has been considered was looking at a 540, but the estate versions are rare and hold their value.
QUOTE(wicklamulla @ Wed 19th Mar 2008, 11:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i tink i was told be a previous Legacy owner that the enjun has to be partially dropped/pushed back to git at the spark plugs !!!! this true or no ??
"Never argue with an idiot. They just bring you down to their level and beat you with experience"
My TDM :
Black 1991 850 MK1, 160k+ miles(ish, best guess really, gave up trying to keep count after 3rd set of clocks and 3rd engine), PilotRoad2 tyres, custom stubby exhaust system, bluespot calipers & goodridge braided hoses with dunlopads, maxton forks, Ohlins shock, kedo handguards, stainless TDM grill, Scottoiler with lubetube & dual nozzle thingy, Givi Wingrack2 with E45 & 2xE36s, renntec crash bars, Autocom with blueteeth & PMR radio, TomTom Rider2, Optimate IIIsp, Bagster tank cover, anti-dazzle coating
to fit : led spotlights, heated grips, new braided lines and rear caliper that actually has bleed nipples
Silver-ish 2003 900, 70k miles, PilotRoad3 front tyre (new@65k) & PR2 rear(new at 69k), Renthal 755 bars with KTM handguards, oxford unheated grips, power commander 3usb, scorpion titanium exhausts, standard screen with vario winglet thingy, stainless grill, oem centre stand, bagster tank cover, givi monokey topplate mounted on grabrail with V46 topbox, Givi PL pannier rails with E21s, crash bungs, mirror extender thingys, Halfords Advanced Laser Blue brillance bulbs, 21w led spotlights, touring scottoiler with leehenty dual nozzle, Autocom with blueteeth & PMR radio, TomTom Rider3 Urban, winter style anti-dazzle coating
to fit : led brake light strip, replacement heated grips
current rides : TDM850 3vd/mk1=tourer&scratcher, TRX850=weekend twisty toy, 2003 TDM900=commuter, 2005 TDM900=unmolested. Gone but not forgotton : XTZ750=overland touring toy, GS500e, GS125
If a strange looking truck driver honks at you & gives you the thumbs up, its could be me
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Posted 20 March 2008 - 07:19 am
What effect will being lowered have on the towing ability?
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Posted 20 March 2008 - 07:37 am
I own a Rav4 540 Tourers are a damn fine machine. V8, 14 mpg
damn fine machine
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Posted 20 March 2008 - 08:00 am
Audi A6 2.5 v6 TDI......enough torque to pull down a house and vast inside. There's even a quattro version.
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Posted 20 March 2008 - 04:41 pm
Another vote for E39 5-Series. Newer shape V70s are fine cars too, if you can take the abuse . My older S70 T5 is a proper old fart's car - but very little else can offer similar performance for such low purchase and insurance costs. Built like a brick sh*thouse, too! 
Failing that, just get a Mundano. Nothing else is superior enough to justify the extra cost.
. My older S70 T5 is a proper old fart's car - but very little else can offer similar performance for such low purchase and insurance costs. Built like a brick sh*thouse, too! Failing that, just get a Mundano. Nothing else is superior enough to justify the extra cost.
Ex-TDM owner. Now riding a Sprint ST 1050
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Posted 20 March 2008 - 04:52 pm
QUOTE(CatsBum @ Thu 20th Mar 2008, 07:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I own a Rav4 540 Tourers are a damn fine machine. V8, 14 mpg
damn fine machine
Guess you'll be buying a 900 then
I've got Passat 1.9 Sport TDI 140 Bhp 6 speed gearbox, Will beet anything up to 2.5l petrol.. Top end of 145mph and the lowest mpg I've seen is 35 when thrashed and the most is 68 when curising at 65 but average of about 45-50mpg doing around 80-90..
My Super Modded TDM has gone to a new home
I'm now a carbon whore!
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Posted 20 March 2008 - 07:02 pm
QUOTE(TonyDevil @ Wed 19th Mar 2008, 02:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
been thinking of a Subaru Legacy, anyone got any opinions of them?
http://cgi.ebay.co.u...em=130206890381
seem to be decent work horses, enough power to enjoy myself too....
http://cgi.ebay.co.u...em=130206890381
seem to be decent work horses, enough power to enjoy myself too....
Personally I'd steer well clear of anything with tinted windows lowered and suspension and engine mods because
a) it would make me wonder what else he's done to it
and
b) Subaru probably know more about suspension than Halfords.
Mate of mine had a Impreza turbo and the servicing costs were suprisingly low, however he was convinced they made the clutches out of chocolate. Depreciation is huge though (his lost £13k from new in about 4 years and was imaculate with a low mileage) so you can get them cheap. Dunno about the legacy but the imprezas are made of tin foil, everything bangs and rattles. If that's 280 bhp without any modifications then it means is the twin turbo so higher boost pressure could mean worse reliability? Should go like shit off a shovel though!
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