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#21 ProudViking

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Posted 02 February 2016 - 10:44 am

Well I sent the email and the chap replied and said it would be best to give him a phone.



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Posted 02 February 2016 - 07:11 pm

Well I sent the email and the chap replied and said it would be best to give him a phone.

 

Can't he get his own!  :lol:


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Posted 02 February 2016 - 07:20 pm

Thanks for the answer !

 

To my knowledge there is not compliance on OBD II on bikes.

However some brands put OBD connectors on their bikes (Ducati / BMW...).

 

Jap bikes do not use the CAN bus protocol, they only use the K-Line (1 wire + ground).

To get access to it on the TDM900, there is nothing except the wire between the ECU and the dash to send & receive data.

The blanked connectors (there is another one beside the ECU) you quoted are common grounding for the sensors.

 

I'm not sure the data may be easily changed because bike manufacturers use their own codes to get access afaik...

There is also the problem with the CRC which may brick the ECU !

 

New EU regs are forcing OBD2 compliance on all new bikes....can't remember which MY it starts at....2020 ? Due to come in with Euro 5  emmissions standard anyway. Not before time too i have to say. Custom fault diagnosis equipment used by dealers gives them the deserved nickname of 'stealers'  IMHO !

 

I think the 2016 regs are for compulsory OBD (version 1, basic) , with compliance expected by 2017

 

 

CRC generators are easy to find, the disassembly software usually figures out the CRC method when you list the HEX.. From what I've seen before anyway.


 

Can't he get his own!  :lol:

 

 

 

Now that's funny !

 

Worth calling him anyway

Worth calling him anyway


Edited by fixitsan, 02 February 2016 - 07:27 pm.

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Posted 02 February 2016 - 09:38 pm

Worth talking to Geoff at Hilltop - he's a genius at re-mapping

 

Does work for several BSB teams - if he tells you he can do it, he can ...........he's a software wizard & reverse engineers ECU mapping ....I'll let him tell you how he learnt his trade !

 

Give yourself plenty of time to talk though - he can talk  :lol:  ..........proper enthusiast 


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Posted 03 February 2016 - 05:35 am

I would take the bike to a VW-dealer. They're renowned for being extremely creative when it comes to car firmware. 

 

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Posted 03 February 2016 - 11:56 am

I would take the bike to a VW-dealer. They're renowned for being extremely creative when it comes to car firmware. 

 

:P

 

I see a few other manufacturers are being scrutinised, and the better ones seem to have just hid it better


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Posted 03 February 2016 - 05:54 pm

 

I see a few other manufacturers are being scrutinised, and the better ones seem to have just hid it better

 

They've all been at it IMO - the bureaucrats fixed the limits so they're impossible to attain without "creative tuning". I reckon the shit was about to hit the fan and VW opened up to the world. It's been an open secret for about for over 5 years in the Trade


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Posted 03 February 2016 - 08:00 pm

Well after a bit of research and visiting the Hilltop site, I certainly won't be getting a Power Commander without seeing what Geoff can do first.



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Posted 04 February 2016 - 07:24 pm

I've checked my K-Line reader and it seems to be working, and I've downloaded a version of Yamaha ECU software reader.......but I need to take the bike for it's MOT tomorrow so it has to be running tomorrow..... otherwise i would have chanced reading from the ECU  it tonight

 

I'll maybe give it a go tomorrow afternoon or Sunday


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Posted 05 February 2016 - 06:03 pm

Went down to Hilltop today and saw Geoff, And after spending a few hours chatting while he worked on some chaps race BMW, I decided to book the bike in for his remapping services. Needless to say he isn't impressed by Power Commanders. Considering the difference in price I'm very happy to see what he can do with the bike. So March 2nd the bike gets done. I shall inform all of the differences I experience!

 

Oh and price is £360 for his ECU remapping. Lol he said he'd service it as well, but if it had been a Mk 2 it could fook off!! :rotflmmfao:



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Posted 05 February 2016 - 06:40 pm

Thats encouraging mate. Price is steep-ish..... but i take the same view as you regarding power commanders - at that price its a bit much for something which can only operate within the bounds of the standard map.

standatd maos are designed to cover every instance of fuel quality, every rider skill level (not too thrusty) and so on.

ask hin if he'll restore it for free should you not like it .......but i think there'll be an interesting post from you here ob that day :)

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Posted 05 February 2016 - 09:30 pm

It might be a bit steep, but it beats the £580 I was quoted for a Power Commander fitted. And I'm never selling this bike so I don't mind going a bit OTT with getting it just how I want it. Any way his price isn't quite written in stone. :)


Edited by ProudViking, 05 February 2016 - 09:50 pm.


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Posted 05 February 2016 - 09:50 pm

PV  - sent you a PM


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Another 96 Mk2 in yellow & silver - absolutely standard & pristine ( apart from a butchered rear mudguard - but I'm looking for a new one
'76 Suzuki GT500 Stroker in need of a rebuild
'80 Yamaha XT250 mudplugger
another '81 XT250
'91 BMW R80GS - this one really will do a RTW trip
'05 BMW K1200S - inline four with a shaft
'10 BMW R1200GSA Anniversary Edition
'02 Fazer 1000 - 4 carbs are better than 2 ! - water pump rebuilt by Mr Ramrod Engineering
'00 Triumph Adventurer - Cruiser with a difference - British & a triple
Gary's Bathtub - '99 BMW K1200RS in luvverly pillarbox red . Now been Waspycycled to Nuneaton
And the Latest Addition - a nice BMW G650 XCountry greenlaner - on long term loan to Boy Wonder

1996 Kawasaki KH125 Stroker

2000 TDM Mk2A - nicely Studleyfied - Modified by Masterbrewer, but we've fixed that now !

BMW K1300R

2004 TDM 900 in Silver/Blue - heated grips, MRA vary screen, Wilbers rear shock & engine bars to fit 

BMW S1000XR in white 


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Posted 05 February 2016 - 09:51 pm


ask hin if he'll restore it for free should you not like it .......
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From all the research I did and peoples responses to what he's done to their bikes, This isn't going to happen!



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Posted 05 February 2016 - 09:54 pm

And he does offer to restore it free 


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96 MkII in yellow & silver with bluespots, braided lines, Remus 2 into 1, Hagon rear shock & fork springs, bashplate, heated grips,Motech pannier racks, Road Attacks, Jockoiler, Baglux tank cover & bag. Gone to a far better place - hasn't it Remo?
Another 96 Mk2 in yellow & silver - absolutely standard & pristine ( apart from a butchered rear mudguard - but I'm looking for a new one
'76 Suzuki GT500 Stroker in need of a rebuild
'80 Yamaha XT250 mudplugger
another '81 XT250
'91 BMW R80GS - this one really will do a RTW trip
'05 BMW K1200S - inline four with a shaft
'10 BMW R1200GSA Anniversary Edition
'02 Fazer 1000 - 4 carbs are better than 2 ! - water pump rebuilt by Mr Ramrod Engineering
'00 Triumph Adventurer - Cruiser with a difference - British & a triple
Gary's Bathtub - '99 BMW K1200RS in luvverly pillarbox red . Now been Waspycycled to Nuneaton
And the Latest Addition - a nice BMW G650 XCountry greenlaner - on long term loan to Boy Wonder

1996 Kawasaki KH125 Stroker

2000 TDM Mk2A - nicely Studleyfied - Modified by Masterbrewer, but we've fixed that now !

BMW K1300R

2004 TDM 900 in Silver/Blue - heated grips, MRA vary screen, Wilbers rear shock & engine bars to fit 

BMW S1000XR in white 


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Posted 05 February 2016 - 09:59 pm

Win-win !

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Posted 05 February 2016 - 10:04 pm

Went down to Hilltop today and saw Geoff, And after spending a few hours chatting while he worked on some chaps race BMW, I decided to book the bike in for his remapping services. Needless to say he isn't impressed by Power Commanders. Considering the difference in price I'm very happy to see what he can do with the bike. So March 2nd the bike gets done. I shall inform all of the differences I experience!

 

Oh and price is £360 for his ECU remapping. Lol he said he'd service it as well, but if it had been a Mk 2 it could fook off!! :rotflmmfao:

 

Is the remap done on a dyno? When I had my lightly tuned 900, I changed the CCC silencers for Akras, I had the Power Commander remapped on a dyno (the same dyno company set up the engine for the CCC cans) and the map difference was massive. The 10 bhp increase at 5000 rpm was good though  :)


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Posted 05 February 2016 - 10:09 pm

If you mean by dyno a rolling road, computers, 160mph wind blowers and a mass of cables then yes! :sorry:



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Posted 05 February 2016 - 10:10 pm

If you mean by dyno a rolling road, computers, 160mph wind blowers and a mass of cables then yes! :sorry:

 

That's the fella  :badgerrock:


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Posted 05 February 2016 - 10:16 pm

My GSA went up by 12 bhp .....doesn't really go faster, but pulls like a train right up to the red line, & no more flat spots.

vibration is noticeably down as well 


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96 MkII in yellow & silver with bluespots, braided lines, Remus 2 into 1, Hagon rear shock & fork springs, bashplate, heated grips,Motech pannier racks, Road Attacks, Jockoiler, Baglux tank cover & bag. Gone to a far better place - hasn't it Remo?
Another 96 Mk2 in yellow & silver - absolutely standard & pristine ( apart from a butchered rear mudguard - but I'm looking for a new one
'76 Suzuki GT500 Stroker in need of a rebuild
'80 Yamaha XT250 mudplugger
another '81 XT250
'91 BMW R80GS - this one really will do a RTW trip
'05 BMW K1200S - inline four with a shaft
'10 BMW R1200GSA Anniversary Edition
'02 Fazer 1000 - 4 carbs are better than 2 ! - water pump rebuilt by Mr Ramrod Engineering
'00 Triumph Adventurer - Cruiser with a difference - British & a triple
Gary's Bathtub - '99 BMW K1200RS in luvverly pillarbox red . Now been Waspycycled to Nuneaton
And the Latest Addition - a nice BMW G650 XCountry greenlaner - on long term loan to Boy Wonder

1996 Kawasaki KH125 Stroker

2000 TDM Mk2A - nicely Studleyfied - Modified by Masterbrewer, but we've fixed that now !

BMW K1300R

2004 TDM 900 in Silver/Blue - heated grips, MRA vary screen, Wilbers rear shock & engine bars to fit 

BMW S1000XR in white 



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