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#1 ferky

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Posted 18 November 2019 - 10:43 am

this has probably been asked loads of times but as a new member of the group , is there  an in depth guide to setting up the timing on a 900 with pics if possible , i have the workshop manual but it isnt very clear , only having to do this as I have just replaced valve stem seals and head gasket 

 



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Posted 18 November 2019 - 05:35 pm

this has probably been asked loads of times but as a new member of the group , is there  an in depth guide to setting up the timing on a 900 with pics if possible , i have the workshop manual but it isnt very clear , only having to do this as I have just replaced valve stem seals and head gasket 

 

 

From memory a good starting place is left piston (cyl 1) at the top, and cam lobes for that cylinder both pointing outwards and away from each other....then look at the cam wheels for the timing marks to line up with the split face of the top of the head


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Posted 18 November 2019 - 07:58 pm

This might help a little.https://www.tdm-yama...ex.php?page=VLV

 

There are quite a few bits of help on this site.


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Posted 30 November 2019 - 09:19 am

Cams have tiny dots in them these must br facing up.

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Posted 30 November 2019 - 09:40 pm

this has probably been asked loads of times but as a new member of the group , is there  an in depth guide to setting up the timing on a 900 with pics if possible , i have the workshop manual but it isnt very clear , only having to do this as I have just replaced valve stem seals and head gasket 

 

 

 

has it done mega miles or has it been laid up for a long time? there are a few well documented procedures on here, have a search and see how ya get on.


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Posted 01 December 2019 - 01:22 pm

mega miles no she just coming up for 24k had 17.5 when i bought her just over 12 months ago now i am having issues with getting her running again just doesn't want to start :( 



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Posted 01 December 2019 - 02:56 pm

The inlet cam will always be under load putting them back. Put exhaust cam in first dot must face up, cylinder 1 at TDC, then be careful tightening the cam caps for the inlet cam also dot must face up. Inlet cam can slip as it has to push down valves so I cable tie the chain to sprocket. niner is a 270 engine.
Once in and tensioner is released cable ties if any removed, turn engine two times and check both cam wheel marks line up.


Edited by leehenty, 01 December 2019 - 07:44 pm.

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Posted 01 December 2019 - 03:05 pm

Check HT leads next to frame for arcing, common problem.

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Posted 01 December 2019 - 06:39 pm

Valve stem seals on a 9r, was it a bit smoky then, even so your due a valve check anyway ferky..


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Posted 01 December 2019 - 07:43 pm

If you can put inlet cam in without having to press down any valves the inlet cam will be 180 degrees out and it will not run, but no valves will touch either. The dots are next to the sprocket wheel and are tiny.


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Posted 02 December 2019 - 12:54 pm

yeah it was a tad smokey checked all the valves and reground them for seating fresh stem seals and new head gasket , thanks guys hopefully when I get chance to work on her again I will get the timing sorted and she will be as good as new , well we can dream cant we  :) 



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Posted 02 December 2019 - 06:30 pm

Have you got the the cam back right. You can be one tooth out. When I did my valve clearance it took a few goes to get it right.


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Posted 04 December 2019 - 06:57 pm

managed to get her back together today and she fired up first time , thanks for the info guys  :tup:



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Posted 05 December 2019 - 02:38 pm

Well done. :iwin:


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Posted 05 December 2019 - 04:58 pm

well that was short lived , :(  not sure if bike has dropped a valve head or timing chain has jumped was ticking over and all of a sudden clunk and engine stopped and also I have noticed that the oil seems to getting sucked out of the oil pan as it keeps saying no oil and not returning , oh the joys of biking , guess I am stripping top of the engine again 



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Posted 05 December 2019 - 05:08 pm

Oh crap that don't sound good!

Did you check the camchain tensioner is doing it's job?


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Posted 05 December 2019 - 06:57 pm

yeah cam chain was good I even managed to get timing marks pretty much spot on , depending on whats gone wrong now  it could be cheaper or quicker to pick up another lump and fit that then look this other one over as and when 



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Posted 05 December 2019 - 08:31 pm

check oil pump gears right side of engine


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Posted Yesterday, 11:47 am

Oops oh that's bad luck, not sure i would be spending on a replacement until i've had a look though, hope you get it sorted..


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Posted Today, 01:04 am

All the bolts will be easier to remove the second time, just see if a cam slipped a few teeth first


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