V.serious Issues With Headlamp Flashers
#1
Posted 26 February 2012 - 10:18 am
Yesterday afternoon rural road near Chipping Norton, I have slowed down to turn right at a staggered crossroads.
Volvo approaching flashes me and has his drivers side indicator going [ie. he's going to turn the opposite way to me]
So I pull out across the right turn, but Volvo carries straight on and misses me by literally inches. If the road had been wet or if Volvo going any faster, I'd have been pulped.
The question is: a] What do you do if this situation happens with any vehicle?
and b] What do you do if its a Volvo or other vehicle THAT ALWAYS HAS ITS LIGHTS ON?
I absolutely know that this guy had his right turn indicator going and yet he wasn't intending to turn, and I'll swear that he flashed his headlights twice to call me across.
It also occurred to me afterwards, that it is just possible for the sun to reflect off headlights at this time of year, and give the impression that they have been flashed.
I have to admit that although I am always a very cautious rider this has left me wondering am I getting to the point when I should hang up the bike keys for good, despite me holding a clean licence for nearly half a century.
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#2
Posted 26 February 2012 - 10:24 am
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#3
Posted 26 February 2012 - 10:35 am
Just a thought, how many times have you found your indicater still flashing after you were positive you turned it off
................ and you wonder why they started to turn in front of you
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#4
Posted 26 February 2012 - 10:36 am
I tend to treat all other road users like they want to kill me.... so I would let him pass.
#5
Posted 26 February 2012 - 11:17 am
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#6
Posted 26 February 2012 - 11:25 am
as MB says how many times have you travelled on down the road without turning off your blinkers after you have made a turn, I know i am guilty of that,
Maybe the road surface was uneven giving you the impression he flashed his lights,
DONT be thinking of hanging up your keys,
Just think twice the next time
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Posted 26 February 2012 - 11:25 am
#8
Posted 26 February 2012 - 11:29 am
I always wait for a deviation in path before pulling out/across any traffic, I also have an indicator bleeper on my bike so that I do not forget to cancel them.
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#9
Posted 26 February 2012 - 11:39 am
Just a thought, how many times have you found your indicater still flashing after you were positive you turned it off
................ and you wonder why they started to turn in front of you
Regretfully, I felt compelled to instal an audible back up to remind me to switch them off.......I'd become aware that I occasionally failed to do so myself, & had seen numerous other bikers do the same........The gizmo is sufficiently irritating & embarrassing to be a v.effective prompt. It's saving grace is that 'my' particular version shuts-up if you apply the brake,
so - stopped at a junction for instance - brake on, it only starts up when you begin moving forward. I think there are other versions that have timers etc......
- Works for me, albeit through gritted teeth.........Jiff.
#10
Posted 26 February 2012 - 12:14 pm
From one who might have more years than you (we're nearly all "old fossils" on here, as one of our members once pointed out): do not give up.
Robo
#11
Posted 26 February 2012 - 12:34 pm
a few weeks later, i am doing the 6000 miles service (it is an XJ6S) and check the electrics - the left turn signal once activated, won't cancel until the bike is turned off!!!
take the LHS switch-gear apart and it is full of damp and wet (!), no wonder it has been doing whatever it wants. dry it off and spray it lightly with WD40 (inlcuding the inside of the case itself). although the switches have drain-holes, the inside is bright and i think it suffers a bit from condensation.
i know the 850 switches are different, but if the 900 has the same stuff as my divvy, maybe this is causing a problem for you/other parties.
something i will check at every service - condensation causing corrosion in there isn't worth thinking about.....
Edited by pilninggas, 26 February 2012 - 12:34 pm.
#12
Posted 26 February 2012 - 01:14 pm
From one who might have more years than you (we're nearly all "old fossils" on here, as one of our members once pointed out): ...........
Robo
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#13
Posted 26 February 2012 - 01:48 pm
Don't move until you can see the whites of their eyes !
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#14
Posted 26 February 2012 - 03:39 pm
Volvo's sometimes have amber running lights, in the sun could it have been this that you saw?
Either way, your OK and that's the main thing. As people have said, don't hang up your keys, just take it as an educational moment
#15
Posted 26 February 2012 - 04:38 pm
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#16
Posted 26 February 2012 - 04:47 pm
so - stopped at a junction for instance - brake on, it only starts up when you begin moving forward. I think there are other versions that have timers etc......
- Works for me, albeit through gritted teeth.........Jiff.
People flash lights for many reasons......hello, thanks, after you and you bastard, are just some. Never assume a flash is meant for you or as it's safe to carry out a manouver.........that responsibility is yours!!
A friend turned right as an oncoming bus had flashed, and his Golf was written off by a car passing the bus. The bus driver escaped injury and any blame.
I never respond to flashed lights unless I can see the whole picture.
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#17
Posted 26 February 2012 - 05:03 pm
No, I won't hang up my keys yet and, when I get another flasher, I will proceed with extreme caution, or, if possible, wave the driver on.
What really threw me yesterday was the fact that the driver was definitely indicating to turn right, so I am now just wondering if Volvos have audible indicator buzzers....
All's well that ends well as they say, but it sure made me sweat, and hopefully others will make a mental note.
Cheers from Futtfutt.
One is Evil. It is anger, jealousy, greed, resentment, inferiority, lies, and ego.
The other is Good. It is joy, peace, love, hope, humilty, kindness, empathy and truth.
The boy thought a while then asked "Which Wolf wins?"
"The one you feed" replied the old man...
#18
Posted 27 February 2012 - 10:36 am
No, I won't hang up my keys yet and, when I get another flasher, I will proceed with extreme caution, or, if possible, wave the driver on.
What really threw me yesterday was the fact that the driver was definitely indicating to turn right, so I am now just wondering if Volvos have audible indicator buzzers....
All's well that ends well as they say, but it sure made me sweat, and hopefully others will make a mental note.
Cheers from Futtfutt.
Audible warnings make no difference, always remember that Volvos are driven by dozy bastards who only buy them because they offer the best crash protection so it doesn't matter to them if they are shite drivers.
#19
Posted 27 February 2012 - 10:46 am
A good point, and the same principle applies to most of the women I see driving around the Cotswolds in FWD's
Edited by futtfutt, 27 February 2012 - 12:09 pm.
One is Evil. It is anger, jealousy, greed, resentment, inferiority, lies, and ego.
The other is Good. It is joy, peace, love, hope, humilty, kindness, empathy and truth.
The boy thought a while then asked "Which Wolf wins?"
"The one you feed" replied the old man...
#20
Posted 27 February 2012 - 01:31 pm
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