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[Geordie Guy]

Rather than the closed vote restricted to the Scots only.

 

Afterall I can not remember being asked if I wanted to let it go !!!

 

I thought it would be interesting to find out what everyone thought on Carpe the world over.

 

Just for fun.

 

Cheers, Ivan

[wigwamclan]

I can do without the hassle of different money and border check points. ....I seem to spend half my life up there and have done for the last 25 years or so. .... even lived in Edinburgh for a while. .. it's like a second home.... independence is just bad for us all as a community.

[Favs]

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[fatchap]

If the yes vote wins, will Nanook be deported?

[dandywarhol]

I can do without the hassle of different money and border check points. ....I seem to spend half my life up there and have done for the last 25 years or so. .... even lived in Edinburgh for a while. .. it's like a second home.... independence is just bad for us all as a community.

Utter pish on both counts. There will be no borders and the Scots pound was established in the 12 Century - the currency WILL be the pound if independence happens

[Geordie Guy]

It might be us putting the border up........ !

 

Checking lorries for stow-away deep fried pork pies and mars bars.   

[TDMick]

Who cares who wins!

[wigwamclan]

Utter pish on both counts. There will be no borders and the Scots pound was established in the 12 Century - the currency WILL be the pound if independence happens

I'm not sure I follow what you're saying here...I mean, between almost all other independent countries there's border controls, otherwise what's to stop illegals entering Scotland an then walking straight into England?, an' as for the pound, sure, Scotland would have a pound, and I'm no expert but before the Irish joined the euro they had their own currency didn't they?,... so why would Scotland be any different?

[dandywarhol]

I'm not sure I follow what you're saying here...I mean, between almost all other independent countries there's border controls, otherwise what's to stop illegals entering Scotland an then walking straight into England?, an' as for the pound, sure, Scotland would have a pound, and I'm no expert but before the Irish joined the euro they had their own currency didn't they?,... so why would Scotland be any different?

You can take a deep fried pork pie and Mars bar from Malaga to Nordcapp without a Border control wigwamclan, nobody will check your passport, never mind the sell by date of the pie.

That in itself may cause other problems with undesirables moving around but there are no Borders throughout mainland Europe. As Ivan says - it's a bit o' fun - if I'd my way I'd keep undesirables with Bee Emm Fookin' Double Yoo riders out of Scotland with a barbed wire fence and guard dogs at Berwick.......................

[shadowjack]

Well, as it's a bit of fun-

Great-great-grandDad's family voted with their feet (and by feet, I mean sailcloth and wooden planks), so, I'm really not sure what he would have thought. Can I take the "ÿes and no" option?

When I next talk to his great-great-great-grandson, who's over in that neck of the woods, I'll see if he has an opinion.

[Quartermaster]

Hi Dandy,

 

I spent my teenage years in Kilbarchan and was educated in Paisley so I have a great personal interest in the outcome of Thursday's referendum. Even in those days (the 60's) there was intense debate on the subject, the SNP had just been formed and Winnie Ewing famously won Hamilton for them.

 

One thing I learned was how emotional all Scots get (and rightly so) when matters relating to Scotland are debated. Unfortunately, even in those days I was struck by how hard economic facts were sometimes not allowed to get in the way of the emotional argument. For my part I think that the Union has served both sides of the Border well of hundreds of years and we are stronger for it in an increasingly hostile World. I have followed closely all the arguments in the current debate and, for my part, feel that Alex Salmond is just another politician i.e bends the truth to support his own point of view. This wouldn't matter if the consequences weren't so potentially serious. I understand the need for the Scottish population to identify as a proud nation, they always have done and with good reason, but to launch themselves into a potentially disasterous course of action is not worth the risk.

 

Whatever the outcome, Scotland will always be a great place, but will it be a better place? I think probably not.

[masterbrewer]

Edited by masterbrewer, 17 September 2014 - 08:45 am.

[stu]

Utter pish on both counts. There will be no borders and the Scots pound was established in the 12 Century - the currency WILL be the pound if independence happens

Aye, but it'll be a different pound. That Scots one was worth about 12 and a half pee.

Will it be benchmarked with Sterling ? Currency speculators (like George Soros in '92) will try and make a killing.

 

Personally I'm dismayed by the current trend of Balkanisation, globally. It tends to encourage tribal nationalism, when we would prolly be better of with more integration rather than less.....

 

 

Anyhoo, didn't Scotland take over England ? James VI and all tha'.

[Studley Ramrod]

Isn't this 'passionate about Scotland' Alex Salmond geezer the same geezer wot sold off part of Scotlands beautiful coast to that merkin Trump ?

 

I agree the vote seems to be dividing, not unifying Scotland and I hope there aren't any lasting repercussions as a result, regardless of which way it goes.

 

I vote stay together, I don't wanna pay import duties on my Tunnocks Tea Cakes.

[AliG]

You can take a deep fried pork pie and Mars bar from Malaga to Nordcapp without a Border control wigwamclan, nobody will check your passport, never mind the sell by date of the pie.

That in itself may cause other problems with undesirables moving around but there are no Borders throughout mainland Europe. As Ivan says - it's a bit o' fun - if I'd my way I'd keep undesirables with Bee Emm Fookin' Double Yoo riders out of Scotland with a barbed wire fence and guard dogs at Berwick.......................

Behave Dandy - you know they'll just go west and cross over at Gretna. Now then, maybe Ewan and Charlie could make a programme about that - The Not so Long Way Across.

[ChrisG]

I'm with Stu, they can call it whatever they want, and "Pound" certainly makes sense as they've already got loads printed, but it'll be a different pound to the UK pound.  It has to be, 2 countries with no say in eithers economy can't share a currency.  The only way to share a currency is with some high level links/agreements in the economy as seen with the Euro, however it would take them a fair while to transition to that I'd have thought, and given the state of Ireland/Greece/Portugal's economies compared to Germany would they want to?

 

I'm just not sure how people can vote on whether or not to go independent when big questions like what currency they'll use, whether they'll be members of the EU haven't even been resolved yet. 

 

On the plus side if Scotland vote Yes the UK rainfall will go down by 20cm/year, the average temperature will increase by 0.5 degrees, and our life expectancy will go up by about 5 months so it's not all bad

[masterbrewer]

At least I made it here when I did 

 

[Robodene]

Well, our clocks will not need to go back in October for a start - no longer a need to worry about ye Scots farmers.  If it's 'Yes', they are not thinking about future generations because they will pay heavily in due course (IMHO). Scotland would be so weak financially it is difficult to see what they can do for a currency (there's always 'barter', I suppose). It just shows what subterfuge underlies this project. Finally, it would not surprise me if the first dignitary to arrive was Putin as a poke in the eye for the English government! Scots are rightly proud of their nation (I love 'em) but I cannot believe that they will vote 'Yes'. Otherwise, good luck to us all.

[wigwamclan]

for me, I can't see why the Scots shouldn't get independence even if it's just so the guys who feel disenfranchised can settle their hearts...then, if they decide they miss the sense of community we can come together again. .

 

..why it's being pitched as a 'now or never' or an 'if you go, you stay gone' ultimatum is beyond me......after all my other half ran back to her mam a couple of times before she realised I was the best thing since sliced bread 

[Studley Ramrod]

I'm with Stu, they can call it whatever they want, and "Pound" certainly makes sense as they've already got loads printed, but it'll be a different pound to the UK pound.  It has to be, 2 countries with no say in eithers economy can't share a currency.  The only way to share a currency is with some high level links/agreements in the economy as seen with the Euro, however it would take them a fair while to transition to that I'd have thought, and given the state of Ireland/Greece/Portugal's economies compared to Germany would they want to?

 

I'm just not sure how people can vote on whether or not to go independent when big questions like what currency they'll use, whether they'll be members of the EU haven't even been resolved yet. 

 

On the plus side if Scotland vote Yes the UK rainfall will go down by 20cm/year, the average temperature will increase by 0.5 degrees, and our life expectancy will go up by about 5 months so it's not all bad

 

Now you tell me, can I change my vote please ?