What Tools For Engine Swap? 850 Mk1
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Posted 07 July 2018 - 04:20 pm
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If you want to mark your location on the Carpe map: http://www.carpe-tdm...opic.php?t=5117
Doin valve clearances? Use dappers valve shim exchange program and the job will be carroty - Free (other than you postin me yer shims) for sporting members.
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If you want to mark your location on the Carpe map: http://www.carpe-tdm...opic.php?t=5117
Doin valve clearances? Use dappers valve shim exchange program and the job will be carroty - Free (other than you postin me yer shims) for sporting members.
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Posted 09 July 2018 - 04:00 pm
It wasn't much, could handle.
Just for the record, Haynes Manual had done a big mistake which hose to remove from the fuel tap, I ended up spilling about 2l of fuel everywhere around garage. I'm not used to things as such so it freaked me out a bit. Still have a headache after all the fumes I inhaled while trying to soak up all the petrol. Though experience is the best teacher.
Another thing, while my bike is stripped, found many places where metal parts rust away.. Can you guys advice me what sort of rust stopping product to use? will touch up with paint afterwards, but it's all, I don't intend to take the frame for a powder coat. Thank you much for help!
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Posted 09 July 2018 - 06:08 pm
When I did some rust treatment on a Fiesta many years ago I used Hammerite Krust and it did a great job, acts as a primer too so you can just paint over it.
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Posted 09 July 2018 - 06:42 pm
Great, thanks.
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Posted 10 July 2018 - 09:12 am
It wasn't much, could handle.
Just for the record, Haynes Manual had done a big mistake which hose to remove from the fuel tap, I ended up spilling about 2l of fuel everywhere around garage. I'm not used to things as such so it freaked me out a bit. Still have a headache after all the fumes I inhaled while trying to soak up all the petrol. Though experience is the best teacher.
Another thing, while my bike is stripped, found many places where metal parts rust away.. Can you guys advice me what sort of rust stopping product to use? will touch up with paint afterwards, but it's all, I don't intend to take the frame for a powder coat. Thank you much for help!
It might just be possible that the fuel lines on your bike were put on incorrectly. Haynes has got it right on this I think.
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Posted 15 July 2018 - 12:56 pm
Possibly. I wouldn't know with my non existent experience. I'll leave it as it was, don't want to get anymore work than I already have.
Though loving the experience and learning how to do things.
Though loving the experience and learning how to do things.
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Posted 05 August 2018 - 03:46 pm
Hello fellas.
Can anyone tell me where I can find alternator/pick up coil/neutral switch wiring connectors? I'm using Haynes manual and pic is not clear at all. It's chapter 2, section 5, step 12, if that's any help.
Thanks for help.
Can anyone tell me where I can find alternator/pick up coil/neutral switch wiring connectors? I'm using Haynes manual and pic is not clear at all. It's chapter 2, section 5, step 12, if that's any help.
Thanks for help.
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Posted 05 August 2018 - 04:22 pm
With seat and tank off you will find them just in front of the fuel pump and they should be inside a rubber boot.
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Posted 07 August 2018 - 08:35 am
Thanks Dablik, will be in the garage tomorrow and hope I can find it.
Also, there's "disconnect the earth wiring connector from the main wiring loom". No pics provided on the manual for that, so would be very grateful for directions. I don't really know what this means tbh.
Also, there's "disconnect the earth wiring connector from the main wiring loom". No pics provided on the manual for that, so would be very grateful for directions. I don't really know what this means tbh.
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Posted 07 August 2018 - 03:08 pm
I'm "just" a 900 owner, and my Yamaha shop manual has nice diagrams and work procedures for engine removal and installation, with labels for components and full details of torques and adjustments. I'd assume a similar item exists for the 850.
Do you not have one? I got mine downloaded for free, but I do not remember where from. JBZ's site? Perhaps my Supporting Member status helped. Can an 850 person advise?
Edited by steve27bha, 07 August 2018 - 03:08 pm.
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Posted 08 August 2018 - 07:52 am
I do haynes manual for 850, but it doesn't state where it is, it just says to do it, that is all. Generally that manual is quite good, except this small bit.
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Posted 08 August 2018 - 10:35 am
I do haynes manual for 850, but it doesn't state where it is, it just says to do it, that is all. Generally that manual is quite good, except this small bit.
Often it's just easier to follow the wires back from the devices. The alternator wires (3 white wires) and pickup and neutral switch wires all exit the left hand engine cover and go underneath the tank area.
Edited by fixitsan, 08 August 2018 - 10:35 am.
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Posted 21 August 2018 - 06:27 pm
Found it all, thanks you guys.
Ran into another prob - can't take the engine brackets off, the bolts are not giving up. Have a heat gun, but heating them up doesn't loosen it. Any ideas how to deal with stubborn bolts? They're allen bolts, if they can be called that.
Much thanks.
Ran into another prob - can't take the engine brackets off, the bolts are not giving up. Have a heat gun, but heating them up doesn't loosen it. Any ideas how to deal with stubborn bolts? They're allen bolts, if they can be called that.
Much thanks.
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Posted 21 August 2018 - 06:54 pm
You could try tightening them slightly before loosening, sometimes works.
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Posted 21 August 2018 - 07:51 pm
Don't try turning until ewe find a perfect fitting utensil.
"Whats up", "Piston Broke", "Yeah me too...hic"
If you want to mark your location on the Carpe map: http://www.carpe-tdm...opic.php?t=5117
Doin valve clearances? Use dappers valve shim exchange program and the job will be carroty - Free (other than you postin me yer shims) for sporting members.
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If you want to mark your location on the Carpe map: http://www.carpe-tdm...opic.php?t=5117
Doin valve clearances? Use dappers valve shim exchange program and the job will be carroty - Free (other than you postin me yer shims) for sporting members.
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Posted 21 August 2018 - 08:15 pm
Tried tightening, tried shocking it with a hammer, tried heat gun to make it hot and cool down - none of the tricks worked. Not sure what else I could try..
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Posted 21 August 2018 - 08:23 pm
Monkey pith
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If you want to mark your location on the Carpe map: http://www.carpe-tdm...opic.php?t=5117
Doin valve clearances? Use dappers valve shim exchange program and the job will be carroty - Free (other than you postin me yer shims) for sporting members.
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If you want to mark your location on the Carpe map: http://www.carpe-tdm...opic.php?t=5117
Doin valve clearances? Use dappers valve shim exchange program and the job will be carroty - Free (other than you postin me yer shims) for sporting members.
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Posted 22 August 2018 - 07:58 am
I'm afraid I don't know what it is. Even google search brought no results
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Posted 22 August 2018 - 08:23 am
Spray some lube on them, you can get to both sides on most i think, that's monkey pith, cupla mine went with a good crack, needed a bit of heavy to do it but as dappers says your tool needs to be a good fit or else you'll chew them bolts up.
Bigred mk1 R1 Calipers- Braided lines- Givi wing rack-Crash bungs- Hi vis bullets-PR2's- and a hoot to ride.
Quad 900 Silver Laser duo tech pipes-Scott oiler-Engine crash bars- Radiator mounted see me ring LED's-Datatool system 3 alarm -Centre stand- Extender fender-Renthal bars-Handle bar risers-Mirror extenders-BMW GS Handgaurds-Acumen uprated horn & Nautilus-Stainless steel Radiator guard-Givi wing rack-OEM screen-Yammy touring screen-MRA Vario-MRA Double bubble cut down for fast as fk riding-Tiger screen-Tank protector-Stomp grip panels-Optimate lead Gone to Heaven
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Posted 22 August 2018 - 08:37 am
Yes, will try that today. My allen keys fit perfect, no movement whatsoever, so should be fine. Thanks fellas
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