Wiring A Relay For Heated Grips
#1
Posted 12 May 2018 - 05:57 pm
due to an amazingly comprehensive lack of understanding of the technicalities of the subject, I have been lucky to have gained great assistance from here with the above task ......90% there, but it has been suggested that I use a thin wire to pin85 on the relay from any switched live.......rear brake light switch is proposed, for proximity reasons....
Ive located a twin core black wire from the switch which, via a connector, goes into the loom with one thin brown & one thin yellow wire.....cant seem to decipher which one is the live.......confused by the colours !
1) which one do I splice into.......and how best to do it?
2) the relay I got has an integral 25A spade fuse.....the supplied wiring for the grips has an inline fuse in the non-earthed wire, which goes to pin87, and the thick wire to pin30 from the battery +ive also has an in-line fuse.......is there any problem with this setup ?.....and what amperage should the last named fuse
have .....
as ever....Im clueless, even after nursery ministrations from fixitsan, dapleb, and helpful others
Jiff
#2
Posted 12 May 2018 - 06:04 pm
Already replied to the other thread jiffy..how many threads do you want ya greedy sod.Same fuse as relay in battery line. Make them 15A..25A is over the top..hthdue to an amazingly comprehensive lack of understanding of the technicalities of the subject, I have been lucky to have gained great assistance from here with the above task ......90% there, but it has been suggested that I use a thin wire to pin85 on the relay from any switched live.......rear brake light switch is proposed, for proximity reasons....
Ive located a twin core black wire from the switch which, via a connector, goes into the loom with one thin brown & one thin yellow wire.....cant seem to decipher which one is the live.......confused by the colours !
1) which one do I splice into.......and how best to do it?
2) the relay I got has an integral 25A spade fuse.....the supplied wiring for the grips has an inline fuse in the non-earthed wire, which goes to pin87, and the thick wire to pin30 from the battery +ive also has an in-line fuse.......is there any problem with this setup ?.....and what amperage should the last named fuse
have .....
as ever....Im clueless, even after nursery ministrations from fixitsan, dapleb, and helpful others
Jiff
See pm jiff
Edited by Apache, 12 May 2018 - 06:14 pm.
#3
Posted 12 May 2018 - 09:45 pm
.....not so much greedy, maybe, just uncomprehending.....and hence adrift......
although most of this stuff has indeed been covered on a previous thread, the two points which simmer un-addressed
(see above) would be wonderful to have clarified
to whit; have I identified the correct location to connect to pin85, and if so, to which wire , yellow or brown ?
and is the multiplicity of fuses a problem (though thanks, If I understand the answer to be ‘all OK like that’ and 15A for both)
jiff
#4
Posted 12 May 2018 - 10:05 pm
Save yourself the bother of a relay and get Oxford HotGrips. They switch themselves off when the ignition is turned off or the battery volts get too low. i.e. the relay is included in the unit's controller.
#5
Posted 13 May 2018 - 07:47 am
#6
Posted 13 May 2018 - 11:38 am
Save yourself the bother of a relay and get Oxford HotGrips. They switch themselves off when the ignition is turned off or the battery volts get too low. i.e. the relay is included in the unit's controller.
.......thanks for that, Steve......unfortunately, the model of Oxford Hot Grips
which I have acquired,.....& fitted (superglue as per instructions),.....
.......DO NOT switch themselves off with the ignition........pity!
hence the need for a relay in order to circumnavigate the problem
jiff
#7
Posted 13 May 2018 - 12:49 pm
OK guys.......no names, no pack-drill, no finger pointing;
no disagreement over pins 30 (to battery +)
& 87 ( to red +ive wire on grips - black wire -ive on grips to earth)
but apparently conflicting proposals for;
pin86: either to earth.
or.
to brakelight fuse at fuse box brown wire
(existing factory brakelight fuse will suffice)
pin85: either to any switched live
(e.g. on rear brake light switch ).
or.
to earth
It may be that , in my ignorance, I am not aware that both of the above amount to the same thing
....if so, let me know (gently!)
sorry if everyone’s bored sh*tless over this topic.....I too just want to get it done
jiff
#8
Posted 13 May 2018 - 02:23 pm
Try this for diagrams / info:-
http://thoritsolutio...m-for-12v-relay
The official DIN 72552 designation numbers for the relay terminals (and other vehicle connections) are specified here:-
https://en.wikipedia.../wiki/DIN_72552
Edited by steve27bha, 13 May 2018 - 03:18 pm.
#9
Posted 13 May 2018 - 03:16 pm
#11
Posted 14 May 2018 - 08:11 am
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#12
Posted 14 May 2018 - 08:57 am
Considered heavier gloves?
Yours.
Bored Shitless
..........could’ve.......but Hotgrips were a present from a loved one......
and heavier gloves might have impeded our relationship
jiff.
#13
Posted 14 May 2018 - 09:08 am
Jiff, put the glove on and sit on your hand until it's numb, work away and it will feel like somebody else is doing it no relationship impediments
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#14
Posted 14 May 2018 - 09:44 am
Well, ya learn summat new every day.
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#16
Posted 14 May 2018 - 10:23 am
Jiff, put the glove on and sit on your hand until it's numb, work away and it will feel like somebody else is doing it no relationship impediments
Found that worked a long time ago - trouble is I spent too much time doing that and my hand fell off - got the throttle and brake lever on the left 'bars now and only need one Hotgrip
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#17
Posted 14 May 2018 - 11:02 am
Found that worked a long time ago - trouble is I spent too much time doing that and my hand fell off
Ahh that's why you used to sit on my hand.
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#18
Posted 14 May 2018 - 11:07 am
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#19
Posted 15 May 2018 - 11:10 am
.....whisper it not........think I’ve cracked it......
well, of course, not really me, but hand in glove with wisemen here-abouts.........
.........they know who they are......I’m numb with gratitude
off for a little spin tomorrow...
to ensure no fuse-blowing ‘afters’ or conflagration.
jiff
ps: fyi: pin30 to battery +ive.........pin86 to brown wire at back of ‘signals’ fuse at back of fuse box
pin85 to earth........pin87 to red tagged wire from grips, black tagged wire from grips. “
.....whisper it not........think I’ve cracked it......
well, of course, not really me, but hand in glove with wisemen here-abouts.........
.........they know who they are......I’m numb with gratitude
off for a little spin tomorrow...
to ensure no fuse-blowing ‘afters’ or conflagration.
jiff
ps: fyi: pin30 to battery +ive.........pin86 to brown wire at back of ‘signals’ fuse at back of fuse box
pin85 to earth........pin87 to red tagged wire from grips, black tagged wire from grips. “
sorry !.......words missing from end of ps “ to earth”
jiff
#20
Posted 15 May 2018 - 11:20 am
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