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#1 Guinness

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Posted 12 June 2007 - 06:54 pm

Have you changed the internals of the rear shock?
Have you changed the rearshock entirely?

Tell us why, where, what, how, how much and more.
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Posted 12 June 2007 - 09:25 pm

Mitch (Avonne) has just pioneered a repleacement rear for the 900 from Hagon, G......about £255 for the basic version
plus another £195 for remote adjustment he said.
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Posted 12 June 2007 - 10:06 pm

Fournales because air is a better spring medium than metal, less unsprung weight and cos it works really well under ALL conditions. Got to say that they went through a spell of bad ram tube quality but I sent mine back after a 18 months and it was totally rebuilt with new parts and is performing perfectly with no air loss.

I think it's around £400 with the remote cell for two up riding good.gif

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Posted 12 June 2007 - 10:24 pm

I've got an Ohlins on my MK2, and I've had a Hagon. I got the Hagon for my first 850 because the standard shock was nackered, it is a really good bit of kit. When I got my second 850 I decided to try something else, the Ohlins is better, but a fair bit dearer.

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Posted 12 June 2007 - 11:16 pm

oil never deal with Fournales again !!!!!!!!!!! Hagon, wilbers, WP or Ohlins but not Fournales ! good product but a shoite company !

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Posted 13 June 2007 - 05:49 am

£255 and £125 for the remote from Hagon

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Posted 13 June 2007 - 08:49 am

the G-mans Ohlins - changed because i'm nearly always travelling with full luggage, and it was a little saggy at speed

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to fit : led brake light strip, replacement heated grips

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Posted 13 June 2007 - 10:20 am

QUOTE(Toneski @ Wed 13th Jun 2007, 09:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
the G-mans Ohlins - changed because i'm nearly always travelling with full luggage, and it was a little saggy at speed

what your original Yamaha shock was saggy or the Ohlins ?

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engine changed july 2007 on a dyno run it made 79.1BHP / Torque 59.9Had a brief flirtation with a 1999 MKIIa but it blew an exaust valve on the M5 so was sold on to be repaired.

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Posted 13 June 2007 - 10:40 am

QUOTE(wicklamulla @ Wed 13th Jun 2007, 11:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
what your original Yamaha shock was saggy or the Ohlins ?

the ohlins is lovely an'ard wub.gif

the original was fine for normal riding
but loaded and riding at speed (which is mostly what i do) it was saggy

but fitting the ohlins really showed up the crappy fork springs rolleyes.gif

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to fit : led spotlights, heated grips, new braided lines and rear caliper that actually has bleed nipples
Silver-ish 2003 900, 70k miles, PilotRoad3 front tyre (new@65k) & PR2 rear(new at 69k), Renthal 755 bars with KTM handguards, oxford unheated grips, power commander 3usb, scorpion titanium exhausts, standard screen with vario winglet thingy, stainless grill, oem centre stand, bagster tank cover, givi monokey topplate mounted on grabrail with V46 topbox, Givi PL pannier rails with E21s, crash bungs, mirror extender thingys, Halfords Advanced Laser Blue brillance bulbs, 21w led spotlights, touring scottoiler with leehenty dual nozzle, Autocom with blueteeth & PMR radio, TomTom Rider3 Urban, winter style anti-dazzle coating
to fit : led brake light strip, replacement heated grips

current rides : TDM850 3vd/mk1=tourer&scratcher, TRX850=weekend twisty toy, 2003 TDM900=commuter, 2005 
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Posted 26 March 2008 - 06:37 am

If I replace my rear shock with a Hagon can I retain the hard/soft option doohicky thingy of the original?



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Posted 26 March 2008 - 08:14 am

F'raid not Bondy, but you can specify your weight and get a spring to suit.

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Posted 26 March 2008 - 09:18 am

Thought one of Carpedians had been a guinea piggy for a shock from Hagon with hard/soft option? (maybe I dreamt that).
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Posted 26 March 2008 - 09:54 am

I've got a Hagon unit on mine, and whilst the unit itself is fine, because they build the thing 10mm longer than stock AS STANDARD, it jacks the arse end up the air to the point that my partner can't ride the thing, and I'm struggling with it. I specified stronger spring rate aswell to cope with panniers and two up riding, bbut by god the thing is tall. Bearing in mind that I have lowered the front of the bike by 20mm to make it turn easier (forks through yokes jobby), I am still struggling to reach the deck.

I've only done 350 miles on the shock, but am seriously considering putting the original back on, just so I can get me feet down easily.

Hagon will do a standard length shock, but that is a special order. Had I known that, I'd paid the little extra for it.


Of course, is someone is considering buying a new shock from Hagon, specify a standard length with uprated spring, and I'll gladly swap with you!!!!

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Posted 26 March 2008 - 04:04 pm

QUOTE(stormy @ Wed 26th Mar 2008, 09:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hagon will do a standard length shock, but that is a special order. Had I known that, I'd paid the little extra for it.


I've got a Hagon monoshock which I haven't fitted yet (bought 2nd hand). I don't know whether it's the longer or standard length, do you know what the lengths are so that I can measure and find out? This is for a Mk2 4TX btw.

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Posted 26 March 2008 - 04:36 pm

Hagon all the way.... Nice and ard stops the damn thing squatting when getting power on at the apex yahoo.gif

Had Ohlins(£549) on a Gixer and cost twice as much as Hagon(£255) and cant really tell the diffrence for road use, Hagon just as much fiddlesness as ohlins...

A good plus is that when you ring Hagon just tell the gizzeeer on other end of fone how much you weigh and they will put a harder spring on if you are big like me clapping.gif

Yeah it is longer but unless you have little legs it shouldnt make that much diffrence good.gif

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Posted 26 March 2008 - 07:42 pm

QUOTE(Jolly Giant @ Wed 26th Mar 2008, 04:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah it is longer but unless you have little legs it shouldnt make that much diffrence good.gif



as you can plainly see, me legs only just reach the ground!!!!!





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Posted 26 March 2008 - 08:29 pm

QUOTE(stormy @ Wed 26th Mar 2008, 07:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
as you can plainly see, me legs only just reach the ground!!!!!
felt like being on the set of Land of the Giants!


Nar you are just stood at the end of the line which just happens to be furthest away from the camera which gives the illusion that you are shorter than everybody else tongue.gif

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Posted 26 March 2008 - 08:51 pm

QUOTE(Jolly Giant @ Wed 26th Mar 2008, 08:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Nar you are just stood at the end of the line which just happens to be furthest away from the camera which gives the illusion that you are shorter than everybody else tongue.gif


Nice explanation.......... until you check out the heights of heads and shoulders .......... Ich bin kurz. mellow.gif

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Posted 26 March 2008 - 09:33 pm

'It's not the size of the man in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the man.'



He looks big to me.... maybe it's the angle.
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Posted 26 March 2008 - 09:36 pm

QUOTE(tdm850rider @ Wed 26th Mar 2008, 09:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
'It's not the size of the man in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the man.'



He looks big to me.... maybe it's the angle.



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1999 YAMAHA Thunderace there is STILL no finer motorcycle
2008 SUZUKI Bandit 1250SA ...... fecked by yours truly, but ......... still fitted with the worlds most uncomfortable bike seat. ouch!


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