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#1 TonyDevil

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Posted 23 July 2009 - 07:19 PM

only suggestion so far has been Portugal
any TDMer got any other suggestions or want to offer to organise it?


EDIT : adding poll with locations 2009-07-28


Portugal - not had an RTT there before, good weather, cheaper and local organiser, but more expensive to get there

Isle Of Mann - not had an RTT there before, good roads&no speed limits, central location for those in UK & Ireland, cheaper than mainland, but cost of ferry

Yorkshire/Derbyshire - central location and local organisers, not had an RTT there before, but RTT06 was close in Lake District, good roads but traffic?

Scottish Highlands - central location and many local organisers available, but we already have a yearly meet in Scotland (although normally further south), good roads but not as central as others and weather can be 'changeable'


poll results
Portugal [ 14 ] [35.90%]
Isle of Mann [ 16 ] [41.03%]
Yorkshire/Derbyshire [ 2 ] [5.13%]
Scottish Highlands [ 7 ] [17.95%]
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Posted 23 July 2009 - 07:37 PM

QUOTE(TonyDevil @ Thu 23rd Jul 2009, 07:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
only suggestion so far has been Portugal
any TDMer got any other suggestions or want to offer to organise it?

I'd be quite happy with Portugal (via Santander?)

But an alternative, maybe depending on the outcome of the International 2011 meet discussions, could be Vosges - either as a recce, or in it's own right?

Edited by poldark, 23 July 2009 - 07:38 PM.

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Posted 23 July 2009 - 07:45 PM

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Posted 23 July 2009 - 08:29 PM

Isle of Man good.gif

I think somewhere a bit closer to home would have more people there.

Dont forget GTG 2011 will be over the channel.

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Posted 23 July 2009 - 08:35 PM

Never been to the IoM but does a 30 mile long island have enough to keep us interested for a week?
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Posted 23 July 2009 - 08:35 PM

QUOTE(Geordie Guy @ Thu 23rd Jul 2009, 08:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Isle of Man good.gif

I think somewhere a bit closer to home would have more people there.

Dont forget GTG 2011 will be over the channel.


I'm in agreement, but would like to suggest we postpone it a week from its usual dates so we can incorporate the S100 races

QUOTE(ChrisG @ Thu 23rd Jul 2009, 08:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Never been to the IoM but does a 30 mile long island have enough to keep us interested for a week?


there's plenty of touristy things to do. Accepted they will not involve mega mileage trips but the break can therefore be relaxed. There is always the opportunity of early morning laps over the mountain for those who like a bit of pace to their holidays.

We've been go across to the island for a family holiday each year for several years now and always find enough to do.

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Edited by big dave, 23 July 2009 - 09:04 PM.

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Posted 23 July 2009 - 08:43 PM

IOM would get my vote too, or maybe the Scottish Highlands.
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Posted 23 July 2009 - 09:37 PM

Dependant on the dates, I'd be up for Portugal,


or Brittany (only just overseas), Harz Mountains in Germany, south west Wales?



Regardless of dates, I wouldn't be going to the IOM.

Edited by stormy, 23 July 2009 - 09:39 PM.

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Posted 24 July 2009 - 12:00 AM

hmmm, i think IOM is a good idea esp as the year after is defo on the continent doubtfull.gif
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to fit : led brake light strip, replacement heated grips

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Posted 24 July 2009 - 02:06 AM

Isle of Man would get my vote,

2011 will be a big tour when it is organised,

Maybe the IOM will suit people finance wise, what with the credit crunch!!!!

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Posted 24 July 2009 - 10:56 AM

Mmmmmmmmmm

I did go to the IoM TT in 2006 - but I had only been riding for a year.

Positives
We would be crossing water (one of my personal criteria for an RTT location).
There are twisties and mountains.
There are lots of little hidden away places on the South part of the island - the half away from the TT course.
Accessibility for all of UK & Ireland

Negatives
Been there (dont like going back to places - never get the same "discovery" buzz)
Would not fancy it during a race week - too busy, ferry too expensive.
Chris G makes a good point. You can cover most of the island in a day.

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#12 TonyDevil

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Posted 24 July 2009 - 11:07 AM

QUOTE(MarkyMark @ Fri 24th Jul 2009, 10:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So I'm sitting on the fence

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to fit : led spotlights, heated grips, new braided lines and rear caliper that actually has bleed nipples
Silver-ish 2003 900, 70k miles, PilotRoad3 front tyre (new@65k) & PR2 rear(new at 69k), Renthal 755 bars with KTM handguards, oxford unheated grips, power commander 3usb, scorpion titanium exhausts, standard screen with vario winglet thingy, stainless grill, oem centre stand, bagster tank cover, givi monokey topplate mounted on grabrail with V46 topbox, Givi PL pannier rails with E21s, crash bungs, mirror extender thingys, Halfords Advanced Laser Blue brillance bulbs, 21w led spotlights, touring scottoiler with leehenty dual nozzle, Autocom with blueteeth & PMR radio, TomTom Rider3 Urban, winter style anti-dazzle coating
to fit : led brake light strip, replacement heated grips

current rides : TDM850 3vd/mk1=tourer&scratcher, TRX850=weekend twisty toy, TDM900=commuter, Z750 hardtail=project
gone but not forgotton : XTZ750=overland touring toy, GS500e, GS125

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Posted 24 July 2009 - 11:25 AM

QUOTE(MarkyMark @ Fri 24th Jul 2009, 10:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Negatives
Been there (dont like going back to places - never get the same "discovery" buzz)
Would not fancy it during a race week - too busy, ferry too expensive.
Chris G makes a good point. You can cover most of the island in a day.

So I'm sitting on the fence

Speaking from the benefit of a whole 1 RTT, I wonder that if there's a view the IOM would be more economic if that truly is the case, I've also heard of astronomic ferry costs but maybe this is only on race weeks.,

So I've just emailed the Steam Packet Co. to ask about a group discount for a 7-day crossing next summer, didn't stipulate a date just "late June/early July".

That's another question is it 1st week July again, or given comments at RTT09 is earlier (late June) an option?
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Posted 24 July 2009 - 12:58 PM

QUOTE(MarkyMark @ Fri 24th Jul 2009, 10:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Chris G makes a good point. You can cover most of the island in a day.


There are plenty of runs I go back to do, Cat and fiddle, Devils Bridge, Ribble viaduct.

I dont know how many times have I been back to the Lakes district ?

I must know it like the back of my hand ,

yet I will be going there again this weekend !

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Posted 24 July 2009 - 01:05 PM

QUOTE(Paddy900 @ Fri 24th Jul 2009, 02:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Isle of Man would get my vote,

2011 will be a big tour when it is organised,

Maybe the IOM will suit people finance wise, what with the credit crunch!!!!

Wales, anybody?

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Posted 24 July 2009 - 01:37 PM

QUOTE(Pict @ Fri 24th Jul 2009, 01:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wales, anybody?

too many cages and way to many cops
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My TDM :
Black 1991 850 MK1, 160k+ miles(ish, best guess really, gave up trying to keep count after 3rd set of clocks and 3rd engine), PilotRoad2 tyres, custom stubby exhaust system, bluespot calipers & goodridge braided hoses with dunlopads, maxton forks, Ohlins shock, kedo handguards, stainless TDM grill, Scottoiler with lubetube & dual nozzle thingy, Givi Wingrack2 with E45 & 2xE36s, renntec crash bars, Autocom with blueteeth & PMR radio, TomTom Rider2, Optimate IIIsp, Bagster tank cover, anti-dazzle coating
to fit : led spotlights, heated grips, new braided lines and rear caliper that actually has bleed nipples
Silver-ish 2003 900, 70k miles, PilotRoad3 front tyre (new@65k) & PR2 rear(new at 69k), Renthal 755 bars with KTM handguards, oxford unheated grips, power commander 3usb, scorpion titanium exhausts, standard screen with vario winglet thingy, stainless grill, oem centre stand, bagster tank cover, givi monokey topplate mounted on grabrail with V46 topbox, Givi PL pannier rails with E21s, crash bungs, mirror extender thingys, Halfords Advanced Laser Blue brillance bulbs, 21w led spotlights, touring scottoiler with leehenty dual nozzle, Autocom with blueteeth & PMR radio, TomTom Rider3 Urban, winter style anti-dazzle coating
to fit : led brake light strip, replacement heated grips

current rides : TDM850 3vd/mk1=tourer&scratcher, TRX850=weekend twisty toy, TDM900=commuter, Z750 hardtail=project
gone but not forgotton : XTZ750=overland touring toy, GS500e, GS125

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Posted 24 July 2009 - 01:48 PM

QUOTE(TonyDevil @ Fri 24th Jul 2009, 01:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
too many cages and way to many cops

True I guess - just thinking geographically.

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Posted 24 July 2009 - 05:21 PM

I'm still in favour of the IOM, but how about this for a curved ball......

Yorkshire and Derbyshire ??

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Posted 24 July 2009 - 07:00 PM

Plenty of bunkhouses/campsites and cake stops in Derbyshire/Peaks.

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Posted 24 July 2009 - 07:45 PM

As some people may be aware I am great fan of IoM both because of TT and also the place itself.

As well as the best completely de-restricted roads on the planet it is a beautiful, compact, encapsulation of some of best UK landscapes.
These range from high moorland, secluded glens, water features and stunning coastline. Biking roads vary from the TT circuit, with 180 mph stretches (eek) on the mountain (not by me but PaulB where are you?) to twisty, bumpy sections in the beauty of the southern parts of the island.

As well as this there is the fascination of some of the most varied rail and tram systems in the world and some really gorgoues coast towns, with pubs, like port erin and port st mary, Peel and castletown.

I can see that people may be concerned about spending a whole week there and costs of ferry ( I think about 100 may cover it off-TT week) and wonder if the best way is to combine IoM and nortgerhn england visit together. Say 4 days in dales or peak, and 4 days on IoM

This would offer

- cost effective RTT10 in light of Euro strength and credit crunch and a mega 2011
- using local knowlegde of TDM to put together some stunning rideouts ( just look at some of the local G2G to places like dales and lakes as well as IoM)
- also using local know;ledge to ensure range of accommodation we could even do TDM home stay ( not as daft as it may look)
- we may also even be able to make us of TT home stay arrangements where we can get volunteers from people we have stayed with over there

down side is possibility of rain - does not bother me but people will clearly have views

I would be happy to help arrangements where possible if people are interested in this approach

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