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#1 Studley Ramrod

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Posted 23 November 2009 - 05:25 pm

Thought I'd throw up some photos of the mk1 fuel pump in all it's technical splendour !

As you can see from this photo, the bolts are covered in crud. Needless to say they are also made of fudge and it's not too difficult to end up with a round slot instead of a crossed slot.
If you suspect fuel is getting into the vacuum side of the pump try loosening the six bolts half a turn, and then re-tighten them. Mine were loose.


Next job is to prise the smaller of the 2 cases away from the body. I used a pair of pliers and grabbed the vac. pipe connection and GENTLY persuaded it to lift away. Don't try sticking a screwdriver inbetween the casings as it'll bugger the diaphragm.
If this cover is full of fuel then chances are the diaphragm is holed or cracked. It's this fault that allows the fuel to get into the vacuum pipe and on into the cylinder.



The photo below is of the diaphragm, the colour is probably from the bolts rusting up. A close inspection of this diaphragm for holes or cracks revealed nothing....which is nice !



Same applies to splitting this larger casing, don't stick anything sharp between them. This black diaphragm fells more like a vinyl than a plastic and it feels bloody rubbery !
This is where all the sand and bits of grit gather, as you can probably see.
Again, inspect for holes/cracks.




Next thing to do is to clean all the parts, I wire brushed the bolts, then soaked in WD40, then brushed 'em again. A bit of washing up liquid and an old toothbrush to clean the other parts. The clear diaphragm had come away slightly at the edge and so I got a cotton bud or 2 and managed to delicately clean some of the crud off the inside.




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Next up (munch, munch) it'll be a reassembly (scoff, chomp) and a test jobby. (yummy, yummy)
( brush of hand to remove all the crumbs ! )

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Posted 23 November 2009 - 05:31 pm

Thanks for sharin SR. Is there any point to dismantle SR if non of the diafragmers are available?

Anyone know if there is a diff atwix mkI and mkII pumps? Oi 'ave a mkII type to replace me old mkI wan. I DONT want an electrickery one.....quite happy following the KISS principle spank you.


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Posted 23 November 2009 - 05:43 pm

Probably not Dappers ! hehe I'm actually checking this to see if it'll be ok. It's a spare and I didn't fancy fookin about fitting it only to find there's a big hole in there. I've just become aware that the mk1 and mk2 pumps are different ? Or are they ? I was hoping this pump could be put onto Mooses bike.

EDIT: Looking at the fiches the 2 are physically different and although they probably work the same, the shape means they probably won't bolt onto the 'other' model. Pooooo !

Edited by Studley Ramrod, 23 November 2009 - 05:48 pm.

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Posted 23 November 2009 - 05:52 pm

Very useful to see what is in there as I intended havin a prod around in my ole wan. Shame that them 2 bits o rubber aint available! Wonder if the diafragmers are available under another guise.
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Posted 23 November 2009 - 06:30 pm

yes mk1 and mk2 are diff
mk2a used a leccy pump

also TRX and XTZ are all different but interchangeable

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Posted 23 November 2009 - 06:39 pm

QUOTE(dapleb @ Fri 15th May 2009, 02:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Anyone know if mkII fuel pump is same as mkI?

QUOTE(TonyDevil @ Fri 15th May 2009, 03:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
mk2 yes



Some Billy Sollox told me they were the same. rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(TonyDevil @ Mon 23rd Nov 2009, 06:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
yes mk1 and mk2 are diff

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Posted 23 November 2009 - 06:46 pm

I had one similar to that on my Twin headlamp model 3AJ, 1989 XT600ZE Tenere,took that apart that was full of muck etc.
Think thats why yamaha have put the airfilters up top under tank so it dont collect the dust etc so easily.

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Posted 23 November 2009 - 07:57 pm

QUOTE(dapleb @ Mon 23rd Nov 2009, 06:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Some Billy Sollox told me they were the same. rolleyes.gif

they are the same mounting and connections, just the case slightly different shape/size
the xtz and trx are same again, diff shape and size and same function
i've swapped em round soo many times i've lost track of which one is which

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My TDM :
Black 1991 850 MK1, 160k+ miles(ish, best guess really, gave up trying to keep count after 3rd set of clocks and 3rd engine), PilotRoad2 tyres, custom stubby exhaust system, bluespot calipers & goodridge braided hoses with dunlopads, maxton forks, Ohlins shock, kedo handguards, stainless TDM grill, Scottoiler with lubetube & dual nozzle thingy, Givi Wingrack2 with E45 & 2xE36s, renntec crash bars, Autocom with blueteeth & PMR radio, TomTom Rider2, Optimate IIIsp, Bagster tank cover, anti-dazzle coating
to fit : led spotlights, heated grips, new braided lines and rear caliper that actually has bleed nipples
Silver-ish 2003 900, 70k miles, PilotRoad3 front tyre (new@65k) & PR2 rear(new at 69k), Renthal 755 bars with KTM handguards, oxford unheated grips, power commander 3usb, scorpion titanium exhausts, standard screen with vario winglet thingy, stainless grill, oem centre stand, bagster tank cover, givi monokey topplate mounted on grabrail with V46 topbox, Givi PL pannier rails with E21s, crash bungs, mirror extender thingys, Halfords Advanced Laser Blue brillance bulbs, 21w led spotlights, touring scottoiler with leehenty dual nozzle, Autocom with blueteeth & PMR radio, TomTom Rider3 Urban, winter style anti-dazzle coating
to fit : led brake light strip, replacement heated grips

current rides : TDM850 3vd/mk1=tourer&scratcher, TRX850=weekend twisty toy, 2003 TDM900=commuter, 2005 
TDM900=unmolested.  Gone but not forgotton : XTZ750=overland touring toy, GS500e, GS125
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Posted 23 November 2009 - 08:11 pm

OK ta. so it'll fit on fine.

Might have a quick investigate for diafragmers first to see whats (not) available. I know for sure that old BMW diafragmers are still available so Shirley someone makes these things. Seems a huge sillyness to make such an elaborate and easy to rebuild part but not provide a little plastic bit!
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