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#1 OldGit

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 01:49 PM

Well I've finally found some work, got a contract in London for a few months, so back to the daily commute. I've already ordered the Stebel Nautilus, next on the list is headlights. I rang about these NC Cook HIDs this morning and got a strange response. He wouldn't sell me them they are too unreliable, they are just clearing out the last stock.... I then asked him about his motorcycle specific kit NC Cook Bike kit and he said he wouldn't sell me that one either as the headlight fuse is only 15amp.... (yes I kniow the kit was the wrong bulb type anyway....)

So what about the one HIDS4U ? If so, which bulb, 5000k, 6000k or 8000k? and Projector H7 or Reflector H7R?

I think I will do the dipped beam only for the time being anyway as it's to be seen to necessarily to see where I'm going.

What does the panel think?

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#2 dmmsta

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 02:07 PM

HIDS4U are quite expensive.

For that price you can get a car set, and either HID both dipped & main beam, or go halves with someone.

I wouldn't go above 6000K. I've run 4300K, 5000K and 6000K. The 43's are a good white light with touch of yellow, 50's are a solid white, 60's have a touch of blue to them. Personally it would be 5000K next time I get any.

As for bulbs, you should get H7R, as these have an extra reflector on the bulb to account for "Reflector" type light units (H7 HIDs should be used with Projector type lights).

Check eBay...something like THIS

You'll also need a blub holder...I used one of THESE (isn't where I got them from, but same part)


Thinking about it, if you want to go halves let me know...I'm just south of Maidstone, and commute daily to Docklands (M20 / A20) so we seem to be in the same neck of the wood...

Edited by dmmsta, 21 March 2012 - 02:11 PM.

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 03:05 PM

4300k is similar to a standard bulb. I find 6000k to be a bit too blue and don't reckon I can see as well with them as the 4300k.
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Posted 21 March 2012 - 03:52 PM

I have the HIDs4U H7R fitted to my dipped beam. They were good to deal with posted out quickly and to date, no problems with the HID. I went for the 5000k kit as I wanted a white light not a Chav-tastic Blue light, HIDs4U recommend the 6000k though.
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Edited by TDMTAM, 21 March 2012 - 03:53 PM.

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 06:33 PM

I paid something like 30 for my HID's. 6000k and been on for over a year. My Euro Touring Buddies can vouch if they are bright enough tongue.gif

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Edited by Cats, 21 March 2012 - 06:34 PM.


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Posted 22 March 2012 - 12:22 PM

I went for the HIDS4U kit as I could ask them about the kit before I bought it, and they are delivering tomorrow, so I can fit it over the weekend ready for my return to work next week.

dmmsta ta for the offer but I wanted to move quickly on this...

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Posted 22 March 2012 - 01:02 PM

QUOTE(OldGit @ Thu 22nd Mar 2012, 11:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I went for the HIDS4U kit as I could ask them about the kit before I bought it, and they are delivering tomorrow, so I can fit it over the weekend ready for my return to work next week.

dmmsta ta for the offer but I wanted to move quickly on this...

Cheers

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Did you go for the H7R kit?
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#8 OldGit

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Posted 22 March 2012 - 01:07 PM

Yep H7R 6000k. Next day delivery, and they say that no bulb holder / adaptor will be required....
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Posted 22 March 2012 - 01:17 PM

QUOTE(OldGit @ Thu 22nd Mar 2012, 12:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yep H7R 6000k. Next day delivery, and they say that no bulb holder / adaptor will be required....


They say that, but they don't know the TDM like we do smile.gif

When you remove the STD Halogen bulb you'll see the adapter thats fitted to that (may already know what I mean if removed bulb(s) before).

The HID bulb won't(can't) attach to that.

I started off by using some dense foam cut to shape to pack the gap between the back of the bulb, and the wire retaining clip, then moved to the adapter I've linked above.

The foam works ok, but the adapter is better.

Isn't a show stopper, but you will need something in there to hold the bulb tight against the headlamp otherwise it'll waggle around, and you'll end up damaging the bulb.

See the paragraph just above the 10th photo in THIS THREAD - gives you a better idea of what I'm trying to explain.

Edited by dmmsta, 22 March 2012 - 01:20 PM.

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Posted 22 March 2012 - 04:14 PM

QUOTE(OldGit @ Thu 22nd Mar 2012, 12:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yep H7R 6000k. Next day delivery, and they say that no bulb holder / adaptor will be required....

Where are you in NW Kent fella - I'm in Edenbridge and I have one of the bulb holders spare, it's all yours if you want to pop round and pick it up

Edited by hallrob1, 22 March 2012 - 06:01 PM.

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Posted 22 March 2012 - 06:19 PM

QUOTE(dmmsta @ Thu 22nd Mar 2012, 12:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
They say that, but they don't know the TDM like we do smile.gif

What he said.
I used the bit if HD foam that came with the HID lamp, but later changed to the plastic hold like above.
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Posted 22 March 2012 - 07:00 PM

Thanks for all advice / replies, Rob I'm in Culverstone so not far at all, how are you fixed for Saturday so I can come and pick the holder up? Many thanks for your kind offer.

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Edited by OldGit, 22 March 2012 - 07:14 PM.

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Posted 22 March 2012 - 07:58 PM

QUOTE(OldGit @ Thu 22nd Mar 2012, 06:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks for all advice / replies, Rob I'm in Culverstone so not far at all, how are you fixed for Saturday so I can come and pick the holder up? Many thanks for your kind offer.

Cheers

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 04:25 PM

Thanks to Hallrob1 for the bulb holder. all done now, ballast mounted above the ECU


Not sure if will reside there permanently.

Will comment on performance etc later.

Also finished fitting a Stebel Nautilus


By feck it's feckin loud....
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Posted 25 March 2012 - 02:44 PM

Well Epic Fail is the phrase that springs to mind. Ignition on, switch headlight on, lovely bright white light. Switch everything off, then on again, start engine, switch headlight on - engine dies. Try starting engine with headlight on - sorta just about catches but won't rev.
Have reverted to standard bulb for now. Fuse does not blow btw.
Anyone know what's wrong? Anyone had similar problems?

Ta

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Edited by OldGit, 25 March 2012 - 02:45 PM.

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 02:50 PM

Could maybe due to the HID box is too close to the ECU causing interference !!! Maybe
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Posted 25 March 2012 - 03:41 PM

QUOTE(Cats @ Wed 21st Mar 2012, 07:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I paid something like 30 for my HID's. 6000k and been on for over a year. My Euro Touring Buddies can vouch if they are bright enough tongue.gif

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Cats, looking at the picture - what is that black rectangular thing attached to the lower edge of your left mirror?

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 05:53 PM

It looks like a blind spot mirror Danresh.

Agree with moving the ballast to the other side of the fairing. ECU won't like it at all. I had 2 ballasts back to back in the other side and had no problems at all.

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 06:33 PM

You have to take the nose cone off to get it in there, but there's a space just at the base of screen that's just the right size for a ballast.
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Posted 25 March 2012 - 07:59 PM

QUOTE(ChrisG @ Sun 25th Mar 2012, 06:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You have to take the nose cone off to get it in there, but there's a space just at the base of screen that's just the right size for a ballast.


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