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[Godzillamonster]

Hi all,

 

My trusty old 3VD has been a bit problematic starting lately.... I'd press the starter button 3 or 4 times and only hear click from starter solenoid relay then finally starter motor would crank & start the bike.

 

Time for a new starter solenoid relay I thought.

 

I have a few spares from another 3VD so proceeded to swap starter solenoid relays - no joy.

 

While swapping solenoids back my socket dropped off the driver and shorted across the solenoid terminals. Bugger, that's fried it. 

 

Now instead of click, click, click start nothing happens when I press the starter... really time for a NEW starter solenoid relay I thought. Yes, have also replaced blown fuse.

 

Ordered one from ebay for $12US & have been shorting across the terminals to start the bike in the interim.

 

New solenoid arrived & installed - still no action when I press the starter button. 

 

Have lost my wiring diagram.. anyone got an idea where the problem still likely to be? (beside seat and keyboard?)

 

Normally such a reliable old beast - will crack 400,000 kms next oil change.

 

Cheers

 

 

 

 

[fixitsan]

Start with checking that one of the two solenoid wires switches to 12v when you press the button, and that the other is a solid return to ground.

If the sol is new it must be a fault on one of those wides

[Sidarta]

Hi Godzillamonster!

 

The Start button may have poor contact due to oxidation.

Or collector armature starter / brushes are dirty or worn.
With a cable thicker wire, try to make a direct connection test the battery to the starter.

 

 

 

Cheers!

[rustyscrew]

is ur battery knackered, check all the electric connectors on the bike, especially the flag terminal connectors into the ignition coil. ( i learnt the hard way) i m sure if u have 400k km on the beast the connectors wouldnt say no to a good clean anyway. 

[Godzillamonster]

Hi all.

Still haven't identified where the issue is....

I need a wiring diagram to trace the starting circuit. Is there somewhere I can download one - have lost that page from my Haynes manual...

 

The starter relay is working & starting the bike when I get apply power to the blue-white wire to it.

Starter circuit broken somewhere upstream of the starter button - no voltage either side of the switch but am scratching my head following the circuit without a wiring diagram

 

Help please

 

Thanks 

[Rallyist]

download from here http://www.jbx9.16mb...ex.php?page=DOC

[Catteeclan]

 

From the Haynes manual so it's prob wrong anyway.

Edited by Catteeclan, 08 October 2016 - 07:49 am.

[Godzillamonster]

Awesome, thanks

[wicklamulla]

Awesome, thanks

 

 

Richard,  how's it goin 'down there',  TDM stihl goin strong i hope?  Is it on the original enjun and has it had a rebuild yet?  W

[Godzillamonster]

Sadly, the old girl has been retired just shy of 500,000 kms - at least for now.

Got too complacent with the reliability and ran it low on oil.

A month or 2 after the next oil change my big end bearings (I suspect) gave up on my way home from work - horrific rumble from the motor and power dropping off by the kilometer. Still got me home though.

 

That was a couple of weeks before we left NZ and moved to Bali.

Been here 2.5 years now and am getting around on a KLX250 which works well here. Lots of wheelies and general anarchic riding.

 

TDM is sitting in a farm shed in NZ awaiting our eventual return.

If I can find a replacement motor I'll bring it back to life. TDMs rare as hens teeth in NZ so will have trouble sourcing a replacement...

[Studley Ramrod]

Good to hear you're alive and well.   You might find the engine to be repairable ?  Maybe new shells and a crankshaft regrind and bingobangobongo !

[wicklamulla]

enjoy yer new home.  Man thas some serious mileage for any motor let alone a TDM.

[dapleb]

Boop

[poppykle]

500,000km !  That is a brilliant result, not too many bikes get that far.