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Posted 31 July 2009 - 08:30 am

QUOTE(springers @ Tue 28th Jul 2009, 11:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ah - this is driving me mad - two days with wiring diagrams and spaghetti cables - the jap colour codes are completely different... ranting.gif Found out how to do smilly, jumpy things though yahoo.gif Not able to trace down the difference in the wiring - and concerned to do the light thing, just in case I send a voltage down the wrong end of the ecu.....After a lot of head scratching and a garage that looks like a tdm has exploded in it ....Maybe I have given the garage to much credit... maybe they haven't changed the speedo .... maybe they just change the mechanical bits and have left the electronics inside..... so I in typical open heart surgery - I opened the speedo unit.On the side of the speedo - is some electrics - with two black plastic posts - I assume and they look like the starts of a reed switch, but nothing runs between them or looks like it would at any speed - I assume the "new" mechanics is missing the plate, which does the thing at 180 kph .... cables state ground, ignition, output a and output b....So the plan - unless the people from the forum (those down under may know lots) can give me any other ideas - assemble it all back together - see what the voltage is between ground and output a and output b - and in true blue peter style - some silver foil in between the black posts and see what happens ...Have done a major google thing but with no joy, no red max, no tdm unrestrict - Number 5 - do you have any posts/sites ???Thanks for all the comments - I'd put up with 180 kph is the performance was there...Cheers Mr Devil


Found one, these guy's in the UK may help, my mate who has a XJR1300 fitted on his.
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Posted 31 July 2009 - 06:52 pm

QUOTE(number5 @ Fri 31st Jul 2009, 09:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Found one, these guy's in the UK may help, my mate who has a XJR1300 fitted on his.
http://www.motoworld...ail.php?pid=804 good.gif


A flash of inspiration and the help of an excellent local mechanic (Jesse James, newport Shropshire) and the points given by you wonderful posters.
The bike is now supporting the UK/4TX ECU and the lights work.....

So for all those with an import Japanese TDM850 marked as a 5GG - this has worked for me

1 Obtain a 4TX ECU marked with and E
2 Remove and replace 5GG ECU
3 Remove speed sensor from the speedo assembly - tape up under the front fairing
4 Remove the odd relay from above the ECU unit (white with four wires)
5 Bridge output of relay with a fused link - we used 7.5 amp
6 Smile lots with what appears to be a full power bike with working lights

It appears the imports are restricted in two areas - speed sensor for the 180 kph restriction and a programming restriction in the ECU unit

Again thanks to all those who helped.... good.gif rolleyes.gif

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Posted 31 July 2009 - 06:56 pm

Nice work, well done and thanks for sharin the results.
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Posted 31 July 2009 - 07:11 pm

worthy of knowledge base mayflaps ??

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Posted 01 August 2009 - 08:38 am

QUOTE(wicklamulla @ Fri 31st Jul 2009, 08:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
worthy of knowledge base mayflaps ??


When `I get the panels off again - I'll try to do some photographing - we used really pretty purple wires.... it looked so good I was going to leave the fairing off laugh.gif

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Posted 03 August 2009 - 09:57 am

QUOTE(wicklamulla @ Fri 31st Jul 2009, 08:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
worthy of knowledge base mayflaps ??

done http://www.carpe-tdm...showtopic=13879

QUOTE(springers @ Sat 1st Aug 2009, 09:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
When `I get the panels off again - I'll try to do some photographing

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