18 replies to this topic

[muddy]

Bit of both I'd say. Similar situation with Gibernau and Rossi at Jerez in 2005, though Marquez was slightly more impulsive than Rossi's controlled aggression back then. But the same balls of steel. You'd think he'd been riding the Honda for a whole season already. Amazing kid who's filled the hole that Simoncelli left and the even the bigger one that Rossi's is in the process of leaving.

Really pleased for Danny Pedrosa, he responded great to win this race. And the Rossi pre-broken leg would've been in that mix at the front. Something missing from his racing now.

[Pantboy]

Villain, but in a good and exciting way, the way the collision differs from Rossi v Gibernau is the angle that the bikes came together, Marquez came from further back, therefore a bit faster and in less control, it was a bit more aggressive, i'd hate to see him get a yellowcard for it though

[trevini]

I don't think that incident is totally down to Marquez. He was already past when Lorenzo turned in. Going to be a great season.

[Hombre]

Marquez was in too fast and with his left front on the track, running wide.  Lorenzo was on the racing line.  A red mist error probably.

[TKH]

If it was on 4 wheels they'd call it exciting wheel to wheel racing. The guy saw a small opportunity and took it. That's the difference between the top riders and the average riders in my mind - seeing that little chance and making it work. Admittedly he would have looked a complete ar53hole if he'd have taken them both off.

[nav18tor]

The kid was dangerous, he took a chance without knowing the outcome

 

There is no room for that type of dangerous stuff on the track, it's not a contact sport

[mh1848]

The kid was dangerous, he took a chance without knowing the outcome

 

There is no room for that type of dangerous stuff on the track, it's not a contact sport

[divvxj]

f1 procession racing it aint, take your chances no matter how small and go for it , life is to short for what ifs

[pete7]

I have never raced but seeing it on TV, I thought Lorenzo should have expected an attack on the inside and protected that inside line, especially on the last lap, last corner.

 

Granted MM's own trajectory, and speed, was not going to allow him to regain the natural racing line, but ... the 'impact' was when JL tried to get back onto that line.

 

And there was another bike there.

 

Good for the spectators and TV ratings...

 

Pete 

[Oafski]

Possibly Lorenzo realising Marquez was coming through could have eased off a fraction and cut back on his inside when he ran wide and tried to outdrag him to the line but one thing is fairly certain is that the gloves are now off. On the subject of contact sport has anyone been watching the Speedway Grand Prix, those boys don't seem too averse to throwing their bikes at one another and with no brakes.

[Hartside Man]

i think jorge left too big an opportunity and the young blood rushed to marquez's head , impetuous yes dangerous or deliberate blocking pass !! well i dunno . 

 

he needs to take a good look at the video of it and learn for next time  :-)

 

 

 

 

 

*edited cos ive had a few ciders and fingers not working *

Edited by Hartside Man, 05 May 2013 - 11:47 pm.

[Studley Ramrod]

He'd tried to pass Lorenzo a couple of times earlier and almost tagged him on both occasions.  I'll go along with the young bloodrush theory, he was lucky to finish the race imho.  That said, he's got a lorra talent for sure.

[Manx1200]

You leave a gap on the last corner of the last lap, someone is going to go for it. Pure racing, anyone would have gone for it. Especially Lorenzo if the positions had been reversed. Two spaniards at the Spanish GP. Fireworks guaranteed!

[TYREDNGRUMPEE]

Lorenzo is thinking "Shit, even my good mate Marco wasn't as hard as that!"

 

Got to give it to Lorenzo for keeping his mouth shut.

 

50/50. But Marquez will exempt himself from any further serious consideration if he pulls one of those again in a last corner move with his existing reputation.

 

So Marquez loses and everyone else gains.

[doboy]

trying to hard to soon ... i dont think lorenzo would have made a desperate move like that ..i think lorenzo has really matured [ at last ] and marquez  has amazing talent but will spend time visiting  the kitty litter this year ...i bet honda tell him to cool it as it dosent look good for there mister nice guy image ...

Edited by doboy, 06 May 2013 - 06:20 pm.

[dandywarhol]

The last corner is a double apex one - Lorenzo was aiming to cover the second part of the corner and Marquez came in too hot..................... mature stuff from Lorenzo, especially afterwards, immature but immense raw talent from Marquez - it's gonna be a great season 

[pete7]

In MCN Lorenzo seems to admit lack of covering the approach ... 

 

"... in Jerez I thought he (Marquez) was further back but he was closer than I expected. I didn’t make a defensive line. This was my mistake ..."

 

As Alan says, it looks like a great season

 

P

[tullyhubbert]

Who's Jorge to talk after this move?

 

[dandywarhol]

Good find tully