Jump to content


Photo
- - - - -

Usb Power And Sat Nav Install - ( Pic Heavy )

USB Power Satnav Sat nav iPhone smartphone navigation accessory

  • Please log in to reply
20 replies to this topic

#1 tone

tone

    Carpe fan

  • Member
  • Pip
  • 184 posts
  • TDM model: 2006

Posted 29 June 2015 - 11:40 am

TDM USB Power supplies and Sat Nav Mount

 

Hi All,

Just thought I’d share my install for gadget/phone charging while on the go which may help/inspire others. I’ve been meaning to post this for a couple of weeks but only got around to taking some photos over the weekend. If its helpful to anyone, Im sure it could be moved to the Knowledge-base/Accessories section.

 

Requirement

I wanted to have the ability to do USB charging on the go for things such as Cameras, Portable Batteries, Phones etc but also wanted to be able to run my iPhone as a Satnav Solution on the bars. I wanted a neat finish and didn’t want the bars to be cluttered with stuff such as sockets, USB plugs,  USB leads, cables etc so …..

 

Step 1 – Assembling the Parts.

·         Smartphone ( iPhone 5S in this case )

 

·         NAVMii Software App ( Excellent free solution with all data stored on the phone so you don’t incur ‘live’ charges as you ride.  https://itunes.apple...d391334793?mt=8

 

·        USB Charging device  - I went with a specific outdoor type from Maplin for Bikes/Boats. Cracking bit of equipment and is very well made and solid for the price. (£10) http://www.maplin.co...er-2-port-n73dp

 

·        Waterproof Case for iPhone – I didn’t want the soft case type design so went with a Veho Saem S6+mount - http://www.veho-worl...ategory=SAEMWPC – And I DIDN’T pay anywhere near what their website states. You can find them for around £25 for the Case and Mount if you shop around. Again, it’s a solid bit of kit and has stayed dry up to now. Fits my 5S perfectly. (£25)

 

·         Accessory Bar – A simple black clamp on Bar from here - http://www.dx.com/p/...33#.VYvmlflVhBc – OK Quality and seems to clamp on securely enough so far. (£5)

 

·         USB Extension Lead (£3.50)

 

·         90Deg iPhone Lightning Charger. ( to fit in the Veho case ) (£1.50)

 

·         Cable Ties

 

Step 2 – Fitting the USB Hub.

I found a suitable place under the seat in the general tray area and it was then a case of choosing one of the two mounts and velcro'ing it on. The USB Hub is aluminium so very robust and has a flip over rubber cover to protect the ports while not in use. 

 

I then ran the relevant cables to ground and the live to a relay I had already fitted to take my Heated Grips ( Also under the seat )

Voila – All done !

 

USB Hub fitted in under-seat tray

1-USB%20Hub_zpsyezjnsjl.jpg

 

USB Hub with Extension Cable Attached

4-USB%20with%20Cable%201_zpshqnb2ngd.jpg

 

Step 3 – Fitting Accessory Bar

Simple, you may think, but due to the diameter of the bar and the size of the Veho bar mount, the case just flopped off the bar as soon as I clamped it on.

 

To overcome this, I drilled two holes through the top of the accessory bar, bolted on a standard plastic assembly block ( the ones you sometimes find in wardrobes, kitchen units etc ) fitted it with nyloc nuts and wrapped the lot carefully but neatly in black nasty. This creates a raised block effect so that when you clamp the mount on, it fits so solidly as you will see from the side profile.

 

Mount the bar as normal and job done !

 

Bar Fitted with Mount Attached

2-Accessory%20Bar%202_zpsi59c9vqx.jpg

Bar with Assembly Block Solution

2-Accessory%20Bar%201_zpspoyk8k7m.jpg

 

Side view showing how clamp attaches firmly

2-Accessory%20Bar%203_zpsiwrjdjlf.jpg

 

Step 4 – Fettling the Veho Case.

Immediate issue – how am I going to charge the phone on the go through a waterproof case ? Well, this was the solution and it has stayed waterproof to this day.

 

I drilled out a 12mm hold in the lower corner of the unit as small as possible but big enough to get the 90deg cable through. ( I chose a 90deg cable as the way it is wired in puts less stress on the cable joint. I could have gotten away with a straight cable but I reckon it would have been knackered in a matter of weeks )

 

I then passed the cable through a rubber grommet to match / overlap the hole size, superglued the grommet into place in the hole then sealed the whole lot with exterior grade black silicone sealant.

 

This allows the phone to sit perfectly in place and charge on the go with no apparent stress on the cable or case.

The Veho case uses a ‘Pinnagrip’ retention system so you basically squash and squeeze your phone in between the ‘fins’ of the interior and it sits nice and tight. I had to trim off the ‘fins’ from the top and bottom of the case to enable me to fit my phone and phone case in but the side ‘fins’ are all in-tact and do the job perfectly. ( I didn’t want to have to take my phone out of its normal case every time I wanted to use it )

 

The clear face material of the case is semi flexible so kind of stretches over the phone face and is capacitive so you can operate your phone through this with your fingers. Obviously it won’t work with gloves on unless you have the clever capacitive type finger tip thingimies I’ve seen out there.

 

The actual case securely mounts to the actual handlebar mount and can be un-mounted in around a second so that you can remove it from the bike when stopping very easily. There is a small webbing loop and clip attached which I use to clip onto the main bar just in case for any reason the mount fails. The mount also rotates so you can have the phone displayed/mounted wither portrait or landscape depending on how you like to view your maps. Because of the small block I fitted to the accessory bar, I can turn the Veho Mount part through 180 degrees so that the display either sites angled or straight depending on how you want to ride/view the screen. It wasn’t designed that way as I wanted the unit sitting in the ‘angled’ pose however it was more out of curiosity to see what turning the mount would do. You’ll see in the Photos.

 

Finally, the case has a clear plastic window which runs the width of the case back which should line up with most modern phone cameras. This means theoretically, you could use be videoing as you ride or when you stop, you can take photos etc without removing the phone from the case.

 

Side View of Case fitted showing Webbing Strap

5-Fitted%20Side%20Profile_zpsyn7aph8f.jp

 

Step 5 – Running the USB Extension + Fitting

Part of the reason I had to do this is that I wanted the actual USB hub device hidden away to keep the dash clear. Also, if I wanted to charge something on the go, I can safely tuck it under the seat and leave it there safely. I sometimes charge / top-up a back up battery pack which is perfect to sit under the seat and forget about.

 

With that in mind, I ran a 2m waterproofed braided USB extension cable from the hub, along the sub-frame, inside the main frame between the frame and tank and out at the left hand fairing pod where it sits tucked neatly away.

Its then a simple case of connecting the USB tail from the Case Mount to the USB extension and Roberts, your fathers brother !

 

When not in use, the USB extension tucks fully away into the fairing out if sight / way. Or it can be pulled back through to the under-seat area if so required.

 

I use the unit for SatNav, routing the voice commands through a Bluetooth bike headset from eBay and the whole set-up works perfectly.

 

Main Route of Installation

Diagram_zpsl4risb9v.jpg

 

USB Extension at Front of Bike

4-USB%20with%20Cable%202_zpscuvrllzw.jpg

 

USB Tucked away during normal use

4-USB%20with%20Cable%203_zpsc1gh3kuv.jpg

 

Riding View – Portrait – ‘Angled’

5-Fitted%20Portrait%20Angled_zps59jtxbzx

 

Riding View – Portrait – ‘Straight’

5-Fitted%20Portrait%20Straight_zpspeyc0n

 

Riding View – Landscape – ‘Angled’

5-Fitted%20Landscape%20Angled_zpsw3pwjwp

 

Riding View – Landscape – ‘Straight’

5-Fitted%20Landscape%20Straight_zpsl4cux

 

Fitted and Charging !

5-Fitted%20-%20Charging%20_zpspysqui4o.j

 

 

Pros

·         Taking the cost of the iPhone aside ( or any other phone for that matter ) it’s a very cost effective way of setting up this for use. Circa £50 in total for the entire package Vs £000s for a proper motorbike set up which you will only ever use on the bike. ( I.e. you use your phone everywhere )

 

·         The parts are fully interchangeable. I could move these from bike to bike if I wanted although I would likely leave the USB hub in place and get another one for a future bike if I had to.

 

·         The Veho case can be used for other applications. For example you could use this on your pedal bike if required. As it can be easily dismounted, it also provides an extra level of security for use in outdoor activities. Its waterproof design means it can be operated through the case screen, so I could for example use it when camping to protect the phone from weather, rain, moisture etc.

 

·         It works and looks neat I think.

 

Cons

·         You cant use the capacitive touch-screen while wearing normal gloves which restricts what you can do ‘on the move’. If your phone screen is resistive however its not a problem. Some manufactures make capacitive compatible gloves but that obviously means buying another pair of gloves from a limited range ( Fieldsheer, Icon eg. ) There are instructions out there for sewing conductive thread into your existing gloves which I may have a bash at one day. At the moment, I will just load up the maps, set it away and ride.

 

·         The NAVMii App while free, may not provide as extensive solutions or services as would a bona-fide motorbike sat-nav system. However, for the price of the above and the flexibility of this set-up, its negligible.

 

Anyway, that was a bit of light reading so if you have any questions or need sources for products etc, let me know. ( i.e, Don’t buy the Phone Case direct from the VEHO site for example ! )

 

Cheers

Tone



#2 Luke

Luke

    Carpe groupie

  • Member
  • PipPip
  • 271 posts
  • Location:Staffordshire
  • TDM model: 2002

Posted 29 June 2015 - 12:19 pm

Neat and tidy. A very good write up.
Fuel Cans, PCIII USB, Oxford Heated Grips, K&N Air Filter, Air Box Mod, Michelin Pilot Road 3, MRA Vario Screen, Scotoiler HRC, Givi Wingrack, Givi E52 Maxia Top Box, Givi E41 Panniers, Hagon Progressive Forks, Centre Stand, Bagster Tank Cover + Bags

#3 divvxj

divvxj

    has been here 4ever

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,296 posts
  • Location:back in the garden
  • TDM model: 2007

Posted 29 June 2015 - 07:06 pm

I changed a bulb once :rotflmmfao: , good job , well done that man :good:



#4 GeneralBozo

GeneralBozo

    really likes Carpe

  • Member
  • 92 posts
  • Location:Hampshire
  • TDM model: 2006

Posted 29 June 2015 - 07:10 pm

Good work.

 

Does the USB power adapter condition the voltage? Things like GoPro's need a particular voltage as to not damage the battery (5V I think) as most mobile phones. My power supply on my bike damages my mobile phone battery when plugged in for long duration for navigation on long rides; it goes a bit barmy (displays incorrect battery life remaining, when unplugged it thinks it's charging when it's not, etc.). Some mobile phones might do it to some extent as part of their charging circuitry.


Edited by humbertronic, 29 June 2015 - 07:17 pm.


#5 RogerD

RogerD

    Carpe groupie

  • Member
  • PipPip
  • 241 posts
  • Location:Worcestershire
  • TDM model: 2003

Posted 29 June 2015 - 07:41 pm

I changed a bulb once :rotflmmfao: , good job , well done that man :good:

 

A bulb....respect!


Roger

 

2004 Silver TDM 900, Scorpion cans, MRA screen, Heated Grips, Piramid Fender Extenda. Mitchelin PR3's, Oxford Soft luggage.  Now living with Sidestand

2015 BMW R1200GS , in Frost Blue, Adventure screen, cruise control, quickshifter, heated grips, ESA , BM panniers but Givi topbox.                                                          

 


#6 tone

tone

    Carpe fan

  • Member
  • Pip
  • 184 posts
  • TDM model: 2006

Posted 29 June 2015 - 08:36 pm

Cheers guys,

A bulb - not done that yet ! Haha.

Humbertronic - the Maplin charger is purpose built for this kind of things and only pokes out 5v which is why I chose it. It's got all other manner of electrical wizzardry to protect the battery and condition itself etc. Mine runs through a relay so it's only ever on when the bike is anyway. For a tenner it's a steal and I have a feeling they are shortly being discontinued as it's showing only a few left in stores.
https://maplindownlo...Manual-3211.pdf

Cheers
Tone

Edited by tone, 29 June 2015 - 08:37 pm.


#7 GeneralBozo

GeneralBozo

    really likes Carpe

  • Member
  • 92 posts
  • Location:Hampshire
  • TDM model: 2006

Posted 29 June 2015 - 08:44 pm

Cheers guys,

A bulb - not done that yet ! Haha.

Humbertronic - the Maplin charger is purpose built for this kind of things and only pokes out 5v which is why I chose it. It's got all other manner of electrical wizzardry to protect the battery and condition itself etc. Mine runs through a relay so it's only ever on when the bike is anyway. For a tenner it's a steal and I have a feeling they are shortly being discontinued as it's showing only a few left in stores.
https://maplindownlo...Manual-3211.pdf

Cheers
Tone

 

Awesome. In that case I'll be getting one then, if I can find one left! Cheers.



#8 tone

tone

    Carpe fan

  • Member
  • Pip
  • 184 posts
  • TDM model: 2006

Posted 29 June 2015 - 08:54 pm

I paid £12.99 iirc which was half price as they were clearing out I think. Even better value now.
You won't be disappointed.

Edited by tone, 29 June 2015 - 08:55 pm.


#9 JBX

JBX

    full o shoite

  • RTT manager(RTT)
  • 2,206 posts
  • Location:South France
  • TDM model: 2002

Posted 29 June 2015 - 10:53 pm

Nice set-up !

 

My gps uses direct 12v so I don't need usb power outlet but some time ago I made one with a salvaged double usb socket from a pc mainboard and a voltage regulator. I didn't use it so far, so no mail checking and fb update while riding.

 

By the way usb power always deliver 5v, the current may vary from 1A to more according to the request of the device.

The power request is send to the usb power unit thru the data lines.

This allows the charging power management to work properly, without extra heat at the end of the charging (not on all devices).


top_640.png

 

 


#10 jono49

jono49

    has been here 4ever

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,183 posts
  • Location:The Debatable Land
  • TDM model: 2003

Posted 30 June 2015 - 06:33 am

Great write up and tutorial :good: JBX your bang on!  I bought one of these to make sure things are OK with the USB output................

 

 

http://www.ebay.co.u...=item19ff26ed80


Don't get confused between my personality
and my attitude. My personality is who I am,
my attitude depends on who YOU are!

 

Skinny people are easy to kidnap.....Stay safe and eat cake!!!!!


#11 tone

tone

    Carpe fan

  • Member
  • Pip
  • 184 posts
  • TDM model: 2006

Posted 30 June 2015 - 08:15 am

Thanks again gents.

T



#12 filo

filo

    Carpe groupie

  • Member
  • PipPip
  • 229 posts
  • Location:Sheffield, South Yorkshire
  • TDM model: 2001

Posted 30 June 2015 - 01:46 pm

Just got the last usb charger off the shelf in Sheffield.
£9.99!
Thanks for the helpful post

#13 tone

tone

    Carpe fan

  • Member
  • Pip
  • 184 posts
  • TDM model: 2006

Posted 03 July 2015 - 07:18 am

No worries filo. They are a good bit of kit.

#14 JBX

JBX

    full o shoite

  • RTT manager(RTT)
  • 2,206 posts
  • Location:South France
  • TDM model: 2002

Posted 03 July 2015 - 05:52 pm

While we're at usb power supplies, be aware that recharging your smartphone at a public (hotels, airports, etc) usb outlet may be a risky business : some of them have behind the wall more than just a power supply and are designed to steal your personal data thru the data lines of the usb interface or inject malicious software into your device.

 

http://www.reclaimer...safely-over-usb


top_640.png

 

 


#15 Riggers

Riggers

    Knight of Postsalot

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 531 posts
  • Location:Hull - England
  • TDM model: 2009

Posted 07 July 2015 - 05:24 pm

Tone

 

- I did a similar exercise myself on my 900 for an iPhone 4 recently, and put up some pics. I was in Scotland last week and it works a treat. 

 

I use a tiny blue tooth ear piece to avoid too many wires flapping about.

 

You might like to take a look here....

 

http://www.carpe-tdm...showtopic=31806

 

 

Riggers

 

 



#16 tone

tone

    Carpe fan

  • Member
  • Pip
  • 184 posts
  • TDM model: 2006

Posted 08 July 2015 - 08:11 pm

Looks good too Riggers.

 

I have to admit, ill have to look at a BT earpiece solution maybe as the full comms one i was using at the weekend dug into the old lugs after a while. Maybe i just need to fiddle around with it a bit more.

 

What are you using ear wise ?

 

Cheers

T



#17 Riggers

Riggers

    Knight of Postsalot

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 531 posts
  • Location:Hull - England
  • TDM model: 2009

Posted 09 July 2015 - 07:48 am

Looks good too Riggers.

 

I have to admit, ill have to look at a BT earpiece solution maybe as the full comms one i was using at the weekend dug into the old lugs after a while. Maybe i just need to fiddle around with it a bit more.

 

What are you using ear wise ?

 

Cheers

T

 

I got one of these from fleabay...

 

http://www.ebay.co.u...=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

 

 

It takes a while to initially charge but once done lasts for around 3 hours which is fine for my needs.

 

As you can see they're only a few quid and seem to be well made. In my case I ditched the hook which clips around the ear as I found it sits better in my ear without it. I can easily get my helmet on with the earpiece in place but taking the helmet off in another matter. It always dislodges and comes off with my helmet so I just have to be careful and catch it inside the helmet. 

 

I think it's a decent little device which works well and well worth the money.  :)



#18 tone

tone

    Carpe fan

  • Member
  • Pip
  • 184 posts
  • TDM model: 2006

Posted 09 July 2015 - 08:17 am

Champion, ill have a look at that.
T

#19 big dave

big dave

    has been here 4ever

  • Supporting Member(thanks)
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,462 posts
  • Location:Colne Valley
  • TDM model: 2002

Posted 09 July 2015 - 12:33 pm

Let me join in on this thread with the USB set up I have fitted my TDM with.

 

My Super Tenere has two cigarette sockets and a hard wired sat nav, so i can just use a USB converter plug for all my charging, mobile phone needs.

 

However the recent trip to Dom's highlighted the inadequacy of the internal battery life on my sat nav, so I decided to remedy the situation on my return.

 

 

 

I first of all hardwired a twin female socket to my battery

 

 

DSC_0029.jpg

 

 

 

using the male side of the plug to connect to a standard loose cigarette socket

 

 

DSC_0031.jpg

 

 

 

This allows me to charge my mobile, go pro and other similar stuff under the seat ( with a bit of moving about of tools, etc)

 

 

DSC_0035.jpg

 

 

 

But what I really needed now was a way to charge my mobile and/or sat nav whilst on the move. In a moment of inspiration that my Uncle Heath would be proud of, I hit upon the idea of clipping the free cigarette socket to the frame with a 22mm copper pipe retaining clip. A tiny bit of trimming was required to allow the socket to clip in and out. I heated up a 8mm nut and melted it into the plastic clip to create a captive nut. I was the able to drill the radiator mounting bar and pop a bolt through to tighten the clip to the inside of it.

 

 

DSC_0032.jpg

 

 

 

DSC_0033.jpg

 

 

 

With the side panel reattached the wiring is neatly hidden

 

 

DSC_0034.jpg

 

 

 

and the USB cable is plenty long enough to reach either my mobile or sat nav when attached to the bars

 

 

DSC_0036.jpg

 

 

 

Not rocket science I admit but a nice flexible way of getting the power where I need it with the added advantage of being able to easily and quickly detach everything and hide it under the seat away from the weather and prying eyes'


MOTO GUZZI T3 with Le Mans engine, frisky for an old girl
YAMAHA Tracer 700 

RE Himalayan
Down to 3 toys at the moment, need to go shopping I think



I DON'T DO EXERCISE - if God had wanted me to bend over, he would have put cake on the floor


#20 Riggers

Riggers

    Knight of Postsalot

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 531 posts
  • Location:Hull - England
  • TDM model: 2009

Posted 09 July 2015 - 08:31 pm

Nice work Dave.





Also tagged with one or more of these keywords: USB, Power, Satnav, Sat nav, iPhone, smartphone, navigation, accessory

0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users